When the Beloved is Ready for the Lover

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WHEN THE BELOVED IS READY FOR THE LOVER

Sorry if this is not what you expected to read. It is about the Land of Israel and the Jew, an essay based on the Songs of Solomon.
When Israel, the Ten Tribes, was transferred to Assyria, the Assyrian king replaced the Israelites with Assyrians.

The Beloved reacted against the newcomers by producing wild animals to kill them. (2 Kings 17:24,25) The Beloved had realized that they were not the real Lover.

By the Rivers of Babylon, when the Lover was asked to sing a song from Zion, he refused on the basis that he could not sing so far away from the Beloved. (Psalm 137:1-9) At the end of 70 years, the Lover returned to the Beloved, was acknowledged and the Beloved would no longer deny life as it became fruitiful again.

The Romans came, found the Beloved a hell of a thing to control, destroyed the Temple, and expelled the Lover to the four corners of the earth. Then, throughout 2000 years, several pretenders tried to force themselves upon the Beloved but had eventually to leave on the basis that the Beloved would produce nothing but only swamps and malarial mosquitoes. It was the Beloved's way to reject the wrong pretenders.

Came the Arabs and then the Knights, and only wars between them were mounted to make life for both, unbearable. Those knocking at the door were not the Lover but false pretenders; foxes that would come just to spoil the vines. (Songs 2:15) Every time the Beloved would attend to a knocking at the door, it was not the Lover. (Songs 5:5,6) Where is my Lover, the fairest among all lovers? (Songs 5:9)

The Otomans took charge of the Beloved and were forced out. The Beloved would refuse to produce life. They were dispossessed by the British that, equally would only cause misery to themselves and to the Beloved. Where is my Lover? Finally, he knocked at the door in 1948, and they both got elated; it was her real Lover whom she would now embrace again to grow and multiply from every corner; swamps and deserts receded to produce sustenance for life, not only for the Lover, but also for those who had tried and failed. The Beloved had finally welcomed her real Lover. And the two have become one flesh again.
 
WHEN THE BELOVED IS READY FOR THE LOVER

Sorry if this is not what you expected to read. It is about the Land of Israel and the Jew, an essay based on the Songs of Solomon.
When Israel, the Ten Tribes, was transferred to Assyria, the Assyrian king replaced the Israelites with Assyrians.

The Beloved reacted against the newcomers by producing wild animals to kill them. (2 Kings 17:24,25) The Beloved had realized that they were not the real Lover.

By the Rivers of Babylon, when the Lover was asked to sing a song from Zion, he refused on the basis that he could not sing so far away from the Beloved. (Psalm 137:1-9) At the end of 70 years, the Lover returned to the Beloved, was acknowledged and the Beloved would no longer deny life as it became fruitiful again.

The Romans came, found the Beloved a hell of a thing to control, destroyed the Temple, and expelled the Lover to the four corners of the earth. Then, throughout 2000 years, several pretenders tried to force themselves upon the Beloved but had eventually to leave on the basis that the Beloved would produce nothing but only swamps and malarial mosquitoes. It was the Beloved's way to reject the wrong pretenders.

Came the Arabs and then the Knights, and only wars between them were mounted to make life for both, unbearable. Those knocking at the door were not the Lover but false pretenders; foxes that would come just to spoil the vines. (Songs 2:15) Every time the Beloved would attend to a knocking at the door, it was not the Lover. (Songs 5:5,6) Where is my Lover, the fairest among all lovers? (Songs 5:9)

The Otomans took charge of the Beloved and were forced out. The Beloved would refuse to produce life. They were dispossessed by the British that, equally would only cause misery to themselves and to the Beloved. Where is my Lover? Finally, he knocked at the door in 1948, and they both got elated; it was her real Lover whom she would now embrace again to grow and multiply from every corner; swamps and deserts receded to produce sustenance for life, not only for the Lover, but also for those who had tried and failed. The Beloved had finally welcomed her real Lover. And the two have become one flesh again.
It amazes me that people take a lot of things literally in the bible but think the song of solomon is symbolic. It is a very romantic sexual book of the bible. It is really about the love of the male and female and not about jews and god. It is the one book in the bible that is to be taken literally.
 
It amazes me that people take a lot of things literally in the bible but think the song of solomon is symbolic. It is a very romantic sexual book of the bible. It is really about the love of the male and female and not about jews and god. It is the one book in the bible that is to be taken literally.

You have really proved to be a member of the literal interpretation club. No, the book Songs of Songs is not meant to be literal but open to metaphorical interpretations of all kinds, even that of the sexual life between a man and a woman. As the Jews that he was and that I am, we have chosen to interpret it according to the Jewish way that the lover is the Jewish People and that the beloved is the Land of Israel. However, I find a lot of truth in the interpretation that the lover is Jehovah and the beloved the Jewish People.
 
You have really proved to be a member of the literal interpretation club. No, the book Songs of Songs is not meant to be literal but open to metaphorical interpretations of all kinds, even that of the sexual life between a man and a woman. As the Jews that he was and that I am, we have chosen to interpret it according to the Jewish way that the lover is the Jewish People and that the beloved is the Land of Israel. However, I find a lot of truth in the interpretation that the lover is Jehovah and the beloved the Jewish People.
I believe that book is literal. Its the only relationship that is the source of what we are all and will be. Before the fall there were pairs one female and one male that even though were two were also one as well. A threefold consciousness. We all attain to get back to that. We were immortal when we were in that relationship and mortality happened because of the split of the paired oneness. I believe its the only book in the bible you can take literally.
 
I believe that book is literal. Its the only relationship that is the source of what we are all and will be. Before the fall there were pairs one female and one male that even though were two were also one as well. A threefold consciousness. We all attain to get back to that. We were immortal when we were in that relationship and mortality happened because of the split of the paired oneness. I believe its the only book in the bible you can take literally.

As I said above, the book "Song of Songs" is open season for interpretations. You can take it as literal and enjoy it. I take it as being the People the lover and the Land the beloved. For instance, I love the Land of Israel more than the love of a woman. Hence I left the luxury of LA for the excitements of Eretz Yisrael.
 
As I said above, the book "Song of Songs" is open season for interpretations. You can take it as literal and enjoy it. I take it as being the People the lover and the Land the beloved. For instance, I love the Land of Israel more than the love of a woman. Hence I left the luxury of LA for the excitements of Eretz Yisrael.
I do not see where sexually explicit phrases would represent israel and the relationship with god. There are many ways to phrase that relationship but the relationship of a parent to a child is NOT sexual. Its stands to reason based on this fact that the book is about the male female relationship.
 
I do not see where sexually explicit phrases would represent israel and the relationship with god. There are many ways to phrase that relationship but the relationship of a parent to a child is NOT sexual. Its stands to reason based on this fact that the book is about the male female relationship.

Perhaps because you are a member of the literal interpretation club without any insight of metaphorical language.
 
Perhaps because you are a member of the literal interpretation club without any insight of metaphorical language.

No I am in the metaphorical language club. The only language that I do not see as associated with god and his people is sexual. I believe most of the bible has symbolic references to something literal but I do believe that song of songs is the ONLY book you can take as NOT being literal.
 
No I am in the metaphorical language club. The only language that I do not see as associated with god and his people is sexual. I believe most of the bible has symbolic references to something literal but I do believe that song of songs is the ONLY book you can take as NOT being literal.

I believe I said that the book "Song of Songs" is open season for interpretations. It is akin to a poem which to depict what the author had in mind is the least significant to the reader. All poems carry the meaning of what the reader brings in mind into it. In your case is the relationship between a man and a woman, in the case of another is the relationship between God and Israel, in my case it is the love between the Jew and the Land of Israel.
 
I believe I said that the book "Song of Songs" is open season for interpretations. It is akin to a poem which to depict what the author had in mind is the least significant to the reader. All poems carry the meaning of what the reader brings in mind into it. In your case is the relationship between a man and a woman, in the case of another is the relationship between God and Israel, in my case it is the love between the Jew and the Land of Israel.
In the beginning male and female were one. Sin caused a split of that paired oneness. I believe song of songs is about that paired oneness and that is the only way we can get back to being immortal infinite lives.
 
I thought G!d took the rib from Adam and made woman?

G!d sinned when "he" did that?
god didn't sin. he made adams opposite by a form of opposite sex cloning so that the two were one even though two.
 
In the beginning male and female were one. Sin caused a split of that paired oneness. I believe song of songs is about that paired oneness and that is the only way we can get back to being immortal infinite lives.

I thought G!d took the rib from Adam and made woman?

G!d sinned when "he" did that?

god didn't sin. he made adams opposite by a form of opposite sex cloning so that the two were one even though two.

say what?

Book says G!d made Eve from Adam's rib. Both Adam and Eve were male and female? Is that your contention? I don't understand.
 
Wil,

Let me give you the interpretation from my belief system. We were living in astral bodies before we started living in physical bodies. Adam symbolizes us living in astral bodies.

The taking of the rib from Adam symbolizes the creating of the first physical body. Eve symbolizes us as we live now in our physical bodies. The symbolism of Adam and Eve is the symbolism of our transition from astral-only existence to astral-physical existence. This also explains the symbolism of mud, clay, dirt, etc., because these things all symbolize our physical bodies.
 
In the beginning male and female were one. Sin caused a split of that paired oneness. I believe song of songs is about that paired oneness and that is the only way we can get back to being immortal infinite lives.

The idea of being male and female in the beginning is a Greek idea. There was no sin in the allegory of the Garden of Eden. Last but not least, there is no way to get back to being immortal because no one has ever been immortal, only God. Every one is born and every one dies. Immortal, only God is.
 
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