Happy Thanksgiving....

Those are both interesting options. I am the only veggie in my house of carnivores....been like that since the 80s. There was a time at my house that I would not cook meat at parties or BBQs by the pool. My diet was not predicated on treatment of farm animals or religious based but my personal belief that regular consumption of farmed animals was not good for your health.

So I quit imposing my beliefs on others...and allowed them to grill their cadavers on my grill...I just didn't do it for them. Today folks like giving the veggie dude 20 pounds of bacon to cook...sigh...it is a job I can do! And as per usual...I was asked to carve the turkey this year, my previous life of hunter and cleaning/butchering my own kills created skills my family still appreciates 4 decades later...lol
 
Those are both interesting options. I am the only veggie in my house of carnivores....been like that since the 80s. There was a time at my house that I would not cook meat at parties or BBQs by the pool. My diet was not predicated on treatment of farm animals or religious based but my personal belief that regular consumption of farmed animals was not good for your health.

So I quit imposing my beliefs on others...and allowed them to grill their cadavers on my grill...I just didn't do it for them. Today folks like giving the veggie dude 20 pounds of bacon to cook...sigh...it is a job I can do! And as per usual...I was asked to carve the turkey this year, my previous life of hunter and cleaning/butchering my own kills created skills my family still appreciates 4 decades later...lol
I'm of the ethical variety of vegetarian, but generally did not get pushy with others. I gave up meat as a kid(at 12), and while I often didn't comment on my diet past letting anyone who might be preparing food for me know, I remember getting irritated with kids sticking their burgers in my face and going "moo". Not only was it disturbing... it seemed disrespectful. Something's given its life to sustain yours, I thought, and you mock it. (The same could be done with grain and vegetables, too.)

When it was just me, I took my own microwave meal to such events. But, now I have a vegetarian husband and vegetarian kids. That complicates things. "Well, bring a dish!" Alright, I bring a dish, but its the only one there that we can eat out of... yet everyone else is eating out of it... so we still don't have much to eat unless we make a massive amount(transportation is tricky).

So, we figured... why don't we stay home and eat, and you guys eat, and we meet up after?

It was actually a huge relief.
 
Something's given its life to sustain yours, I thought, and you mock it. (The same could be done with grain and vegetables, too.)
Are you familiar with Temple Grandin? An American woman who designed more humane slaughter.

Your words remind me of a quote of hers.



She is most famous, however, for speaking out about her life with autism.

 
Are you familiar with Temple Grandin? An American woman who designed more humane slaughter.

Your words remind me of a quote of hers.



She is most famous, however, for speaking out about her life with autism.

I've a friend who mentions her, due to her work with autism(as an autistic person).

I agree with her idea that if one is going to consume meat, they ought to do so humanely. Though, I'd go a step farther and advocate hunting over farming. To me(and please note, I'm not trying to push my morals on anyone, just explain my standpoint), once you care for an animal, a trust is built. Part of that trust is maintaining their life. To take the animal for food violates that trust. When someone is hunting, both parties(hunter and hunted) are on equal ground, with an equal chance. Its part of the natural order.

I used to read a lot of Linda Goodman when I was younger. She strongly advocated for the slow adaption of a fruititarian diet; a diet that consisted only of that which didn't cause anything(plant or animal) to die. Apples, green peppers, nuts, milk, etc. These would all be okay(and things like these). I like the way she things here, but don't feel able to do such at this point in life(and she just as strongly pushed that people should not do things like this until they feel absolutely ready).
 
I'm of the ethical variety of vegetarian..
One of my sons is a vegan .. he always checks ingredients, and is more strict
than me in that regards, these days.

I will eat most things in moderation .. but not anything containing pork .. however tiny %.

I love vegetables .. particularly okra, aubergines, squash. :)
..and cheese is often underrated. You can get vegan cheese too, but tofu is king.
 
One of my sons is a vegan .. he always checks ingredients, and is more strict
than me in that regards, these days.

I will eat most things in moderation .. but not anything containing pork .. however tiny %.

I love vegetables .. particularly okra, aubergines, squash. :)
..and cheese is often underrated. You can get vegan cheese too, but tofu is king.
Okra and aubergine!?

Shall we have dinner? :D

I love those two things, but hardly anyone will eat them with me. (My friend has an excuse; an allergy to aubergine.)

I'm weird with cheese, apparently. I do like cheese. But I like it as a compliment, typically. Most Americans love everything just drowned in it...
 
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