God is not to Mock

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donnann said:
Knowledge is a mental faculty and because your spirit is pure whole body consciousness it is important for salvation. Knowledge of the divine is not dangerous and I don't understand why you would think it is. Can you explain why?
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The atom bomb was the result of knowledge.
 
SatyamAbhidi said:
The atom bomb was the result of knowledge.
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well they went in the wrong direction with that one. that was a result of scientific knowledge however I do believe that there is scientific knowledge that can promote union. I believe progression in science is geared towards union and fixing the problems with the earth. This is universal. Science can help understand how to fix our problems. It has not advanced that far yet though.
 
wil said:
If all is of G!d then isn't also that belief?
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I have not said all is God.

I have said God is a particular name for the universal.

Union is with the universal.

Beliefs are uniting you to a part.

When you are apart, you will long to move back.

That is the way of every cell in existence.

Man is blessed to be conscious of this reunion.

Or cursed, depending on understanding.
 
SatyamAbhidi said:
I have not said all is God.

I have said God is a particular name for the universal.

Union is with the universal.

Beliefs are uniting you to a part.

When you are apart, you will long to move back.

That is the way of every cell in existence.

Man is blessed to be conscious of this reunion.

Or cursed, depending on understanding.
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do you mean union so that the universe is how it was prefallen?
 
wil said:
Living in Unity with man?

Or G!d?

or Nature?

or all?
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SatyamAbhidi said:
For me, God is that unity.

Nature is an expression of that union.

I am not sure why you have said "Nature" and "all"...

What is not natural?

What life does is its nature to do.
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SatyamAbhidi said:
I have not said all is God.

I have said God is a particular name for the universal.

Union is with the universal.

Beliefs are uniting you to a part.

When you are apart, you will long to move back.

That is the way of every cell in existence.

Man is blessed to be conscious of this reunion.

Or cursed, depending on understanding.
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did I misread you?
 
wil said:
did I misread you?
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Probably.

Note that I go on using words that contain or point to "uni", one.

When this is recognized, I think the meaning of my words is more clear.

I am a Yogi.

The practitioner of yoga is one who moves naturally towards union.

Ultimately, his goal is to bring himself in unison with life.

To unite with all that is so.

That underlying unity is his truth.
 
SatyamAbhidi said:
Probably.

Note that I go on using words that contain or point to "uni", one.

When this is recognized, I think the meaning of my words is more clear.

I am a Yogi.

The practitioner of yoga is one who moves naturally towards union.

Ultimately, his goal is to bring himself in unison with life.

To unite with all that is so.
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everything is consciousness in one form or another. Do you agree?
 
donnann said:
everything is consciousness in one form or another. Do you agree?
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The recognition of consciousness depends something to be conscious of.

Thus, consciousness comes later.

I prefer to say all is a unique expression of unity.

When we start to point at something in particular, we cease to be unified.
 
SatyamAbhidi said:
The recognition of consciousness depends something to be conscious of.

Thus, consciousness comes later.

I prefer to say all is a unique expression of unity.

When we start to point at something in particular, we cease to be unified.
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Everything in an environment is an extension of the highest life of that environment. For example: Adam and Eve. All of the mathematical codes that make up the environment to include the animals could be found in them because they are an extension of them. Because they are consciousness what comes from them is also consciousness. This doesn't mean that say for example a piece of fruit thinks and has free will but is consciousness to feed the consciousness that is the highest life in that environment. The piece of fruit sustains the consciousness of the living being and is compatible. This is one reason I believe in veganism although I am not practicing it right now. Animals are beings that are intelligent life that extends from us. When we kill an animal for food that consciousness turns bad and actually harms us. Animals were to feed our consciousness as companions not food.
 
Genesis ... animals were made before Adam and Eve...on the fifth day....twas the sixth that they were created...

of course gen 2 reverses that...
 
donnann said:
Everything in an environment is an extension of the highest life of that environment. For example: Adam and Eve. All of the mathematical codes that make up the environment to include the animals could be found in them because they are an extension of them. Because they are consciousness what comes from them is also consciousness. This doesn't mean that say for example a piece of fruit thinks and has free will but is consciousness to feed the consciousness that is the highest life in that environment. The piece of fruit sustains the consciousness of the living being and is compatible. This is one reason I believe in veganism although I am not practicing it right now. Animals are beings that are intelligent life that extends from us. When we kill an animal for food that consciousness turns bad and actually harms us. Animals were to feed our consciousness as companions not food.
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I am unsure why this has sprung from my comment.

I see no relation.
 
nice counter Thomas...I've read the text...the orders change between gen 1 and gen 2.... you know that...we all have reasons why but the fact is the 7 days for each are different...

sheesh.. do I have to draw a table?
 
wil said:
nice counter Thomas...I've read the text...the orders change between gen 1 and gen 2.... you know that...we all have reasons why but the fact is the 7 days for each are different...

sheesh.. do I have to draw a table?
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Please draw a table, please.
 
It's because Moses had nothing original about creation.

These are Sumerian and Babylon myths, in brief.

Before Moses, lots of Gods.

After Moses, well, pretty much the same.

The union is correct.

Does it matter how it is found?
 
SatyamAbhidi said:
It's because Moses had nothing original about creation.

These are Sumerian and Babylon myths, in brief.

Before Moses, lots of Gods.

After Moses, well, pretty much the same.

The union is correct.

Does it matter how it is found?
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Abraham left Ur of the Sumerians because of their idolatry. He did find the same in Canaan but he concluded that the whole world was crowded with idolatry. So, he decided to stay in Canaan and stopped running from the nature of man by forming a People who would promote the absolute Monotheism of HaShem. His seed to this day promote the truth of the absolute Unity of HaShem.
 
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