Abrahamic Line as Lingam Challenge.

We all have knowledge and I dont think that calling someone elses knowledge stupid is a way to acheive union with ones own holy spirit or with the universe as a whole.
 
You are too much interested in appearances.

You have to understand that appearances are the minds way of interpreting energy.

What is experienced is a composite of sound waves.

If you are attune, it is a symphony.

If you are not, it is a cacophony for you.

This is manifest as confusion.
 
By light is meant consciousness.

The means through which all is known....

Darkness means you are unconscious.

When there is darkness, you will convey any stupid notion.

You don't want to be in darkness.

I can understand it, but your notions aren't light.
 
SatyamAbhidi said:
You are too much interested in appearances.

You have to understand that appearances are the minds way of interpreting energy.

What is experienced is a composite of sound waves.

If you are attune, it is a symphony.

If you are not, it is a cacophony for you.

This is manifest as confusion.
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How does what I said have to do with appearances. Your taking a philosophical approach to knowledge when I take a literal one. Even in your approach you are interpreting energy, talking about being one with the universe and how your going to achieve that. As a yogi is your perception that same as the knowledge your expounding?
 
donnann said:
How does what I said have to do with appearances. Your taking a philosophical approach to knowledge when I take a literal one. Even in your approach you are interpreting energy, talking about being one with the universe and how your going to achieve that. As a yogi is your perception that same as the knowledge your expounding?
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No, you are taking an interpretive approach.

You are interpreting literally what is intended to convey something.

You are defining things as particles, static.

Everything is a wave, dynamic.

How can a particular vision be dynamic?

Yet, the mind cannot make sense of random waves of energy.

The world we experience is its attempt to make sense of it.

This is essentially the purpose of the brain.
 
SatyamAbhidi said:
No, you are taking an interpretive approach.

You are interpreting literally what is intended to convey something.

You are defining things as particles, static.

Everything is a wave, dynamic.

How can a particular vision be dynamic?

Yet, the mind cannot make sense of random waves of energy.

The world we experience is its attempt to make sense of it.

This is essentially the purpose of the brain.
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Its not interpretive its literal . It explains those parts of ourselves . Its no different than a model of the human body showing the bones and organs. In order for union you have to see similarities in knowledge . I have read some years back hindu texts as well as buddhist and there was no disunion with what I say. Why you have such a problem with this I dont know. You seem to WANT to disagree with me instead of understanding of how the yogi and this knowledge is not disunion.
 
donnann said:
Its not interpretive its literal . It explains those parts of ourselves . Its no different than a model of the human body showing the bones and organs. In order for union you have to see similarities in knowledge . I have read some years back hindu texts as well as buddhist and there was no disunion with what I say. Why you have such a problem with this I dont know. You seem to WANT to disagree with me instead of understanding of how the yogi and this knowledge is not disunion.
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The human form is a particular frequency.
This frequency is called DNA.

My stance is not literal but real.

Literal, for the human being, means particle.
Reality is wave.

Perhaps you have projected onto what you have seen and concluded it is same.

For me, science is closer to reality than religion.

There is no spirit or matter, all is energy.

That energy is the reverberation of sound.

Light is the interpretation of consciousness.

The result is experience.

Your near death EXPERIENCE is the minds interpretation of what happened.

It is not what actually happened.
 
SatyamAbhidi said:
The human form is a particular frequency.
This frequency is called DNA.

My stance is not literal but real.

Literal, for the human being, means particle.
Reality is wave.

Perhaps you have projected onto what you have seen and concluded it is same.

For me, science is closer to reality than religion.

There is no spirit or matter, all is energy.

That energy is the reverberation of sound.

Light is the interpretation of consciousness.

The result is experience.

Your near death EXPERIENCE is the minds interpretation of what happened.

It is not what actually happened, it is your interpretation.
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I do agree that all is energy. A product of consciousness to include even the rocks. My nde was a literal experience though because it involved more than just me. I have had other experiences that I am still progressing to understand. Arguing over perception is pointless. Striving to see similarities brings understanding and progression on a group level.
 
donnann said:
I do agree that all is energy. A product of consciousness to include even the rocks. My nde was a literal experience though because it involved more than just me. I have had other experiences that I am still progressing to understand. Arguing over perception is pointless. Striving to see similarities brings understanding and progression on a group level.
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For me, most of your views are very fanciful.

I am trying to show a more sobering view.

Honestly, most of your statements look insane.
 
SatyamAbhidi said:
For me, most of your views are very fanciful.

I am trying to show a more sobering view.

Honestly, most of your statements look insane.
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well if it looks insane then I am in good company. What I have to say is direct and to the point with no room for misinterpretation of this knowledge.
 
My intent is that you DROP literal interpretations.

Experience is not literal, it is suggestive.

It is a basic expression of what is really happening.

An attempt to help you understand.
 
SatyamAbhidi said:
My intent is that you DROP literal interpretations.

Experience is not literal, it is suggestive.
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If it were meant to be suggestive through my experiences it would have been clear that it shouldn't be literal. In my experience the knowledge I have is meant to be literal.
 
donnann said:
If it were meant to be suggestive through my experiences it would have been clear that it shouldn't be literal. In my experience the knowledge I have is meant to be literal.
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I am making it clear this moment.....
 
Consider how little of the spectrum of reality humans can actually perceive.

Why would your visions be any less restricted?
 
The highest and lowest aspects of sound and light or simply ignored by our brains.

Still we think our experiences are complete... foolish.

This is why I say it is suggestive, a basic gist.

There is much more than what we perceive.
 
SatyamAbhidi said:
The highest and lowest aspects of sound and light or simply ignored by our brains.

Still we think our experiences are complete... foolish.

This is why I say it is suggestive, a basic gist.

There is much more than what we perceive.
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I know there is much more than what is generally perceived. However its not suggestive. Its simply the general makeup of our complete selves.
 
SatyamAbhidi said:
I give up.

Have fun with your "knowledge".
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well good luck with yours. the goal is to all get to the same place, how you get there is sometimes specifically a personal thing. I hope your personal path leads you to paradise.
 
donnann said:
well good luck with yours. the goal is to all get to the same place, how you get there is sometimes specifically a personal thing. I hope your personal path leads you to paradise.
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This is the real problem.

You think you are getting somewhere.

For me, there is only here.
 
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