Vegetarian

Namaste Jesus said:
Llamas?o_O
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Llamas protect the chickens and other livestock. Dingoes are scared sh*tless of them!

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As Ahanu wrote above Baha'is do not have any actual restrictions in eating meat... We're not required to be vegetarian. But it has nonetheless been recommended:

'Abdu'l-Bahá has indicated that in the future human beings will be vegetarians, but abstention from eating meat is not a law of this Dispensation.

(The Universal House of Justice, 1998 Dec 16, Traditional practices in Africa)

"In regard to the question as to whether people ought to kill animals for food of not, there is no explicit statement in the Bahá'í Sacred Scriptures (as far as I know) in favor or against it. It is certain, however, that if man can live on a purely vegetarian diet and thus avoid killing animals, it would be much preferable. This is, however, a very controversial question and the Bahá'ís are free to express their views on it."

(From a letter written on behalf of Shoghi Effendi to an individual believer, July 9, 1931)

The future of this planet and the continuation of our species may require us to be vegetarian as the expense of maintaining herds of cattle is much greater than growing vegetables.

http://www.worldwatch.org/node/549


http://www.nytimes.com/1995/11/21/science/health-cost-of-meat-diet-is-billions-study-says.html
 
wil said:
I cut out most farm raised meat over 30 years ago... Was still a hunter... Still eat meat occasionally...something I knew how if was raised...or killed wild... Still eat fish (sushi occasionally...
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How has this change hit you in the pocket? Do you think it is more expensive to be a vegan?
 
Nick the Pilot said:
When I tell Chinese people I am Buddhist, the first question they usually ask me is, "Are you a vegetarian?" They are shocked when I tell them there are millions of non-vegetarian Buddhists.
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I know Thich Nhat Hanh -a Mahayana Buddhist - doesn't eat meat. According to Wikipedia's Buddhist vegetarianism, Theravadan Buddhists accept meat and Mahayana Buddhists don't. Chinese Buddhism follows Mahayana on this point. One explanation for the rejection of meat in Mahayana is social and historical, and this explanation shows why Chinese Buddhism incorporated Mahayana's tradition of vegetarianism:

Some suggest that the rise of monasteries in Mahayana tradition to be a contributing factor in the emphasis on vegetarianism. In the monastery, food was prepared specifically for monks. In this context, large quantities of meat would have been specifically prepared (killed) for monks. Henceforth, when monks from the Indian geographical sphere of influence migrated to China from the year 65 CE on, they met followers who provided them with money instead of food. From those days onwards Chinese monastics, and others who came to inhabit northern countries, cultivated their own vegetable plots and bought food in the market.[15][16][source needs translation] This remains the dominant practice in China, Vietnam and part of Korean Mahayanan temples.​

And another explanation for their rejection of meat is scriptural:

Certain Mahayana sutras do present the Buddha as very vigorously and unreservedly denouncing the eating of meat, mainly on the grounds that such an act is linked to the spreading of fear amongst sentient beings (who can allegedly sense the odour of death that lingers about the meat-eater and who consequently fear for their own lives) and violates the bodhisattva's fundamental cultivation of compassion.​
 
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Namaste Jesus said:
Priceless! Are there any vegetarians among the native people of Australia?
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Quite a few actually. Especially here where growing veg is part of spiritual belief. My ancestors learned to farm from the native people hundreds of years ago. Meat eaters are more prevalent in remote areas, but even there some tribe's idea of hunting is snatching an ostrich egg or filling a sack with cactus paddles. I tell you mate, the way they fry 'em up you'd swear it was steak!
 
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Grilled nopales is good stuff...

Ahanu said:
ow has this change hit you in the p as zaocket? Do you think it is more expensive to be a vegan?
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. It is far cheaper to remove meat from your diet...and vegan is cheaper yet... The key is not go become a Doritos vegan....move away from processed as well...eating vegetable options and ignoring faux meats n cheeses
 
Ahanu,

I also think that vegetarianism is the way to go. But it may come as a surprise to you that millions of Mahayana Buddhists in Japan eat meat.
 
When my son was in scouts the adults that went would occasionally pick me as cook
..which meant setting menus and buying food a budget of $3, 4, 5 for breakfast lunch and dinner was easy to keep..
 
Hear the fruit is prickly pear, and most have no idea folks eat the pads....below the border the cactus is nopal, the pads nopales, and the fruit ...tuna.
 
I am veggie, and have been since I was around nine years old. That's, almost 29 years of vegetarianism! I still eat egg, but only the whites -- don't like yolk, but will eat it in cakes, etc. No fish, no meat, no crustaceans.

I became a veggie as a kid: the girl who sat opposite me in junior school was a veggie and she turned me onto it. Wrong it was, she said, to eat things with souls, and that made total sense, to me, right there. So, I stopped.

I have sporadically sampled meat, since then. Beef and lamb, to me, taste like faeces smells, and chicken and turkey taste like the stagnant water at the bottom of the forgotten mop-bucket in the out-house: totally minging all 'round.

Feeding the cat makes me dry-retch, even though he's 20 years old and I've had him since he was four weeks' old, and I've been feeding him about four times a day, every day, since he jumped out of the box at the pet shop and attached himself to the front of my jumper. He will eat Brussels Sprouts and "Wotsits", but it's hardly a good diet for a carnivore.

Nobody is allowed to cook meat at my house unless they bring their own pans and utensils.

If the choice was: eat meat, or starve, I'd eat meat, of course. I'm all about self-preservation, but... eew. Skanky.

Now, it may be completely unrelated, or I might have a point but, I notice veggies always look younger than their same-aged peers who eat meat. I have no wrinkles, yet, and when I'm out in the clubs with the youngsters, they marvel when I tell them I'm old enough to be their mother! They think I'm still mid-twenties. What's my secret? Why don't I have any wrinkles? I tell them it's because I don't eat meat. Hopefully, I've converted a few, over the years --nobody wants to look old...

As for Veganism... that just seems a step too far, for me. Too much faffing about when you're eating out, for example, unless you live in a very big city. Intellectually, it makes sense, IF the reason you don't eat meat is because it's exploitative and murderous, but... I don't see that many healthy looking vegans. They always look a little ashen and po-faced, and way too thin.

The Vegan Society has a good website, and recipes, too, though, if you're looking for Vegan resources and haven't found anything yet.
 
Sam Albion said:
I am veggie, and have been since I was around nine years old. That's, almost 29 years of vegetarianism! I still eat egg, but only the whites -- don't like yolk, but will eat it in cakes, etc. No fish, no meat, no crustaceans.
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I've never heard or read the word faffing before. Just found it in the Urban Dictionary. Awesome word. Now I am picturing the Aflac Duck saying faffing since both words sound similar.

Anyway, what's the difference you seem to be making between veganism and a veggie?
 
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