How are mosques organized?

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This is a question for Big Joe mostly.

In my city there are about 25 mosques: http://www.salatomatic.com/sub/Canada/Alberta/Edmonton/w3NnWVwH2C

How come so many? I realise that one reason would simply be geography within the city and size of the community. Obviously people don't really want to drive more than about half an hour, but that doesn't explain why 2 mosques might be side by side, and some are really close to each other.

Are there language differences to consider? Different sects to consider? How about country of origin of the people who go there? Do Moslems like to go where they know other people from the same country of origin? Other reasons?

Thanks. I'd just like to know a bit more than ... 'that's a mosque' when I see one. So how could I tell anything at all about one, besides that? Is there unique architecture by sect or country for example?

Thanks in advance.
 
I'm really interested in this response, too.
 
This is a question for Big Joe mostly.
:p that's new, I'm getting called on for actual information :D:D

In my city there are about 25 mosques: http://www.salatomatic.com/sub/Canada/Alberta/Edmonton/w3NnWVwH2C

How come so many? I realise that one reason would simply be geography within the city and size of the community. Obviously people don't really want to drive more than about half an hour, but that doesn't explain why 2 mosques might be side by side, and some are really close to each other.
There are a lot of factors. Much like churches sometimes it is just 2 organizations that aren't working with each other and are competing. Unfortunately this is usually driven mostly by greed of whoever founds the Masjid (actual name of Mosque). But there can be several other reasons. some include:

1. The population of Muslims in an area and the inability for 1 Masjid to handle the population. For daily prayers, it isn't uncommon in my area to see 100+ people at once. On Friday Jummah (think Christian Sunday Congregation) there could be 500-1000 people or more, and Ramadan can pull crowds nearly this size as well. During Eid Prayer it isn't uncommon at some Masjids to have 1500+ people come to pray all at once. Here in Houston, TX the largest organization ISGH organizes with the NFL to rent out the NRG Stadium (where the Texans play) to handle the large crowds and alleviate some of the congestion at Masjids all over the city. Most Masjids that I have been to are set up to hold about 200 people, larger ones 500 (maybe 750 with the Sister's side)

2. There are some that are purely for preference. We have a large Indo/Pakistani/Bangladeshi population here so most ISGH Masjids are centered around the Desi (Indo/Pak/Beng) and Arab cultural ties. When Iftar is served during Ramadan it is commonly Biryani (delicious BTW). There are many smaller Masjids usually in strip malls, etc. that are tied to African cultural groups, such as Somali, Kenya, Sudanese, etc. that aren't part of the larger ISGH organization. There are a couple Turkish oriented Masjids here in Houston as well that are fairly big.

3. There are some sect differences for some. Although Shi'a usually don't have an issue attending daily prayers and some other functions at Sunni oriented Masjids, they also have their own Masjids for Shi'a specific practice. The Turkish Masjid near me (my wife being Turkish I love the ambiance) is highly Sufi oriented although it is predominately occupied by Sunnis. There is also 2-3 Nation of Islam Masjids (sorry I'm cringing even including this movement in as Muslims) in the City as well. MAS (Muslim American Society) also has a few Masjids, but tend to be closely tied with ISGH and the ever popular (here in the US anyway) CAIR.


Are there language differences to consider?
Most Masjids have an Arabic portion which is short and a English main operation During Jummah. Daily prayers are pretty universal in Arabic.I've been to Jummah once at the Turkish Masjid, but it was when they had a visiting Imam from Turkey, He didn't speak a word of English, so I didn't get much out of it. This isn't common anywhere though.
So how could I tell anything at all about one, besides that? Is there unique architecture by sect or country for example?
Honestly unless the Sign says Shia or Sufi or Nation of Islam, you can assume it is Sunni. More than likely a mix of people pray there anyway. There will be a general national groups in each Masjid, much as I said before just due to families and such feeling more close when able to communicate with each other in their native tongue. In Islam it is mandatory not to discriminate and every Muslim prays shoulder to shoulder, toe to toe, regardless of national, race, or financial status. A Sultan is supposed to stand next to a slave if that is where he falls in line. I am quite often easy to notice in a crowd of Muslims, but I have attended several Masjids and never gotten an evil look from anyone.
 
Thank you so much for the long and detailed response. Am I correct that ISGH is Islamic Society of Greater Houston? Then what is CAIR?

We have the smaller strip mall ones as well, and they do seem more African. So it seems to me country of origin is important for sure in those cases. I assume Arabic is the most common language, but if you don't speak Arabic, it just makes sense to have your own language.

My one friend here (colleague at a part time job I had after retiring) said anyone can go to any mosque, but over time everyone develops their favorite. So for example, for lunch prayers, he always went to the one closest to work.

So now some more questions:

Can non-Muslims visit a Masjid for educational or observing purposes? (I'm a volunteer host at the Hindu temple I go to, and that's like interfaith in general, another humanity building exercise) Do some mosques host school groups, for example?

How are they organized internally? A board of directors? An imam directly? From a larger society? How are day to day decisions made? Does a masjid have any employees? Are imams paid well? I'm interested in this because maybe there is something wise that can be applied elsewhere?
 
Interesting question...Mosques side by side... heck I know a street i can drive down and in less than a mile I'll pass well over 30 churches...many of them side by side.
 
Thank you so much for the long and detailed response. Am I correct that ISGH is Islamic Society of Greater Houston? Then what is CAIR?
You are correct on the ISGH... CAIR is the Council of American Islamic Relations (Obamas go to for every "islamic" involved event). I dislike their name as it somewhat implies there is a separation of ideals.

We have the smaller strip mall ones as well, and they do seem more African. So it seems to me country of origin is important for sure in those cases. I assume Arabic is the most common language, but if you don't speak Arabic, it just makes sense to have your own language.
Almost all here in houston predominantly discuss in English. But Urdu speakers tend to go to Masjids with high Urdu speaking populace. These masjids tend to have additional lectures in Urdu from time to time, and of course socially it makes sense.

My one friend here (colleague at a part time job I had after retiring) said anyone can go to any mosque, but over time everyone develops their favorite. So for example, for lunch prayers, he always went to the one closest to work.
That is very common, with a 1hr lunch break being common, most people can't afford time to go too far. When I visit my hometown of Memphis, TN there are far fewer to choose from and it predominantly African American. No issues so far, say Salaam Allahikum and walk on in.

Can non-Muslims visit a Masjid for educational or observing purposes? (I'm a volunteer host at the Hindu temple I go to, and that's like interfaith in general, another humanity building exercise) Do some mosques host school groups, for example?
For the most part yes. The Masjid I frequent is usually available for visitors, call aheads being preferred. We have a 2 hour block on Saturdays specifically for visitors. Most will encourage it. Take your shoes off and come on in is actually a requirement though :D.

Fair warning though. In Islam delivering the message is required (explaining a few Aya's) and if you help lead someone to Islam it is considered one of the greatest blessings. So be prepared for some of the younger population to try simple debate. Not saying it is always the case, but I have seen my share of it. I even played along several times just to help improve their "tactics" into a less intrusive one.

How are they organized internally? A board of directors? An imam directly? From a larger society? How are day to day decisions made? Does a masjid have any employees? Are imams paid well? I'm interested in this because maybe there is something wise that can be applied elsewhere?
Well this is a bit more complicated. Different Masjids and different organizations have different standards. Technically speaking a Masjid is nothing more than a building meant for Group Prayers. However, we like to employ an Imam to handle prayers and the go-to guy for Friday Khutbas (sermons). That Imam is usually paid well, at least reasonably, and is generally related to the funds available to the Masjid. Soma Masjids also keep someone on retainer for Adhan (call to prayer). To organize this there is usually some kind of administration, ISGH has some bylaws to oversee the position is upheld to a certain degree. They require Imams to be well versed and be certified in several Islamic Shariah and cultural issues. Some Masjids have administration that are volunteers and others are dedicated paid staff. Some Masjids offer additional counseling and schooling which requires teachers/ therapists/ etc. These can often be organized by secondary boards.

One thing you have to remember is Masjids are all self funded (Donors pay for the Building, sometimes that donor is the organization governing it such as ISGH and sometimes it is just patrons). All wages and upkeep come from donations at prayers and other contributions. One thing I like above that of most churches is that money for Masjid donations isn't mixed with Sadaqa (general donations to needy usually used in food and clothing distribution) and Zakaat (Donations required in Islam to poor families, usually distributed as money or food (specifically meat))
 
Interesting question...Mosques side by side... heck I know a street i can drive down and in less than a mile I'll pass well over 30 churches...many of them side by side.
Yeah it happens here... there are 2 mega churches and 3 large Churches withing 5 miles of my home. 3 built in last year, yet they built a Masjid 15 miles away and people all over were protesting its construction due to the size of land it is sitting on (Maybe 15 acres mostly sports fields and parking) took them 6 years to get through all the red tape and protests.
 
Again, thank you so much for taking the time to answer me. The individual organisation parallels the Hindu temple situation in the west, so that all sounds quite familiar. Our funding is all local too. I was intricately involved in one for awhile.

Regarding visiting, given your warning, I won't be going then. (I already have a fair enough idea of what goes on, I think) It's just too irritating to me for some young man full of his enthusiasm for his own faith to come at me in the way you described. There is one sect of Hindu temples i won't go to for the very same reason. They always try to 'convert' me. (Does that happen within Islam itself? Do some imams or people try to get people who normally attend another Masjid to 'come over here'.?

Edited ... If I ever come to Houston, I'll get you to take me. I'd trust that.
 
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