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[Blue]

Thanks for your reply, Friend, but I stilldon't quite follow.

You say:

"...impossible we could live in this earth ,and every thing will randomly change."

Is not this how the recent Tsunami was for the unfortunate people caught by its power? It appeared random.

Perhaps the real nature of the world is random? Perhpas the real laws of Physics are simply one aspect of overall chaos, especially in human affairs?

In fact, there were warnings about the earthquake, but they were not acted upon, and not listened to by some of the nations concerned.
Does that mean you are right?

 

[Friend]

Thanks for your reply, Friend, but I stilldon't quite follow.

You say:

"...impossible we could live in this earth ,and every thing will randomly change."

Is not this how the recent Tsunami was for the unfortunate people caught by its power? It appeared random.

Perhaps the real nature of the world is random? Perhpas the real laws of Physics are simply one aspect of overall chaos, especially in human affairs?

In fact, there were warnings about the earthquake, but they were not acted upon, and not listened to by some of the nations concerned.
Does that mean you are right?

Salaam

Blue, According to my self I think I'm right, and the earthquakes did not appeared random .From scientific point of view, it is balance orientation for the earth. It is under the law of each action have reaction, this could be interpreted scientifically that the nature of the earth and the tendency of the earth to balance and to evacuate the inside energy we saw this phenomenon. About human affairs I think we must accept the reality about the death ,we all will be died ,so it does not matter how this will be happened ?and where ?and when ?
It is simply stage of our life .

 

[Friend]

Thanks for your reply, Friend, but I stilldon't quite follow.


Is not this how the recent Tsunami was for the unfortunate people caught by its power? It appeared random.

Al Salaamu Alyckum


the terrible Tsunami in Asia



Why do you think that Allah (swt) allowed this to happen?

it is happen to tell us that this is not Eternity life it is Just a stage of 4 stages .also may be it is a sign for the world people to wake up and stop killing each other



God create us to transmit through many stages ,the first is inside our mother womb . secondly, we came to this life to have our personal experiment, each one have the ability to think and choose his path (to choose between the evil and good things ) and we must understand that we are in a long test to ready for the third stage life after death and before the settlement or accounting day , if we choose the right path we will be save and if we choose the evil path we will fail .

The forth and final stage (The Eternity Stage )is the stage after the accounting day when each one of us will take his reward or punishment according to his work in the second stage .



We must know that Justice will come at the end , If we suffered in our life (or the second stage ) because of anything like diseases , poverty , natural conditions like the last Earthquake our God will compensate us positively at the final stage .



We should think about God fairness in our life as well as after death at the same time . the final stage is the most important one not this short stage .

God never be evil , all of us will transmit to the next stages in different ways but at the end we all should be transmitted .
If you ask me "How you are sure that there is another stages ,or how you know that there is life after death ?
I will say "I trust of my great God" he presented himself by his great creation and noble words , and I believed in his ability , words and promise .

Thanks

Peace upon all

 

[Blue]

it is happen to tell us that this is not Eternity life it is Just a stage of 4 stages .also may be it is a sign for the world people to wake up and stop killing each other
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How can this be, Friend?

What has it to do with wars and people killing people?

The tragedy of the Tsunami was that it had nothing to do with people fighting wars or killing each other. It was an event in nature generated by the movements of tectonic plates in the Earth's crust... that's all.

 

[Friend]

it is happen to tell us that this is not Eternity life it is Just a stage of 4 stages .also may be it is a sign for the world people to wake up and stop killing each other
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How can this be, Friend?

What has it to do with wars and people killing people?

The tragedy of the Tsunami was that it had nothing to do with people fighting wars or killing each other. It was an event in nature generated by the movements of tectonic plates in the Earth's crust... that's all.

Salaamu Alyckum
Blue, this is your own perception about this event ,and what you want yourself to believe about it .but Iwant to ask you one question Do you believe that this universe developed by accedinet ?or not?

 

[Faithfulservant]

I thought this was interesting...

The tragedy of the Tsunami was that it had nothing to do with people fighting wars or killing each other. It was an event in nature generated by the movements of tectonic plates in the Earth's crust... that's all.[/QUOTE]
"The Bible contains many stern warnings that the end of this era will be filled with such sudden disasters, both "natural" and man-caused. The earth will actually "reel to and fro like a drunkard" when the final judgment falls, according to the great prophet Isaiah (24:20). That this can actually occur was illustrated by the 9.0 Asian tectonic plate shift, which NASA scientists said caused the entire planet to wobble for a millisecond and to tilt about an inch on its axis. " quote from David Dolan in Jerusalem

Isaiah 24:20 The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, And shall totter like a hut; Its transgression shall be heavy upon it, And it will fall, and not rise again.​

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"Why should busy modern humans pay any attention to historic warning words from a bunch of long-dead Hebrew prophets? The main reason in my estimation is because they also revealed that the Jewish people would be scattered to the four corners of the earth, and then regathered to their ancient homeland in the "last days" just before the foretold worldwide judgments would fall (Isaiah 11, Jeremiah 31-33, Ezekiel 36-37, etc.).

I am writing these words from my desk in the growing rebuilt city of Jerusalem. Out my front window I see the nearby office towers and hotels that dot the skyline of Israel's bustling capital city. Jerusalem is not far from Ben Gurion airport, where the Jewish ingathering continues—despite enormous obstacles—almost every day." David Dolan in Jerusalem

Faithful Servant

 

[mirrorinthefog]

it is happen to tell us that this is not Eternity life it is Just a stage of 4 stages .also may be it is a sign for the world people to wake up and stop killing each other
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How can this be, Friend?

What has it to do with wars and people killing people?

The tragedy of the Tsunami was that it had nothing to do with people fighting wars or killing each other. It was an event in nature generated by the movements of tectonic plates in the Earth's crust... that's all.

I'm inclined to agree with Blue on this.

How would killing more people on one side of the earth stop others from fighting on the other point of the earth? Did Bush suddenly pull out of Iraq? Did people all over the world drop their weapons and rush to Asia to help? No,they didn't. People kill each other every day and continue to do so. We just don't hear about it.

In my humble opinion, I don't think if there was any greater aim in this disaster at all (in my humble opinion there most likely wasn't- but who knows), that preventing human beings from killing one another was it.

That being said, I agree with Friend that there is a lesson to be learned from this - life is short, fragile, and priceless-and we should cherish it and respect it, while we can.

Still, I think a lot of people (I've heard so many people start preaching about end times and this being the Devil's doing to me I've started just ignoring the subject...lol) tend to read too much into such events.

Just my two cents worth...