spiritman51 said:
I wish you would plainly state "the other group of people attempt to force society to comply with their wishes". I think I know since this thread is about the promotion of a gay priest to a brishopric. I believe you're talking about gay people and their allies. No one impossed the elevation of Bishop Gene on the Diocese of New Hampshire. He was elected and approved by a majority in both the house of Bishops and the House of Laity. In America Gay people have no real power except to say We are here and we have the right to all the rights afforded by the Bill of Rights
For a long time white people in America had a "serious revulsion" toward blacks. Virginia in the 1920's stated anyone with one drop of African blood
was forever tainted and unfit to marry "white". White people hated blacks so much they hung and shot them for sport. White Americans can no longer do this to the Blacks, because the law of equal protection under the law has forced the majority race , regardless of revulsion, to treat blacks as full citizens.
America is made up of many societies. However, the body politic should be free of emotional and religious biases and treat each citizen fairly and equally under the law. For example; the Federal Government just overturned the antiquated sexual laws and removed a potential criminal conviction from over the heads of gay people in 15 states.
I think in America the desires of the Rich out-weigh everything else.
I think you just emphasised my point. And your attempt to place yourself (you admitted to being homosexual, hence the you), alongside non-white subjugated people is ridiculous.
Better re-read the "Book". It makes allowances for having slaves (though we have grown past that terrible time, or have we?) It makes no allowance for homosexual behavior, none what so ever. A person can not change the color of their skin (except by medicine). Black people were SOLD into slavery by other black people. They were the conquered. "White" people did not go into Africa and round up blacks for servitude. White people picked them up at the dock after paying Black tribal leaders for the "bounty" received.
Once freed, the previous captors did not know what to do with them, and the previous captives did not help matters much. They didn't know what to do either. That is a sorry state of matters, but has nothing to do with homsexuality.
Anyone with an agenda that is considered destructive to society (and there is only one society at large), who demands that everyone change their way of thinking to accomodate their way of life, is thinking assinine. You have rights. You have every right under the sun that any other person in America has. THAT'S IT. No one has the right to overide other's rights, nor demand special privilige. No one has the right to enforce their views over mine or anyone elses on how children are raised. And no one has the right to change the definition of what God said marriage should be.
Homiphobe, isn't that what people like me are called? Not hardly. I love my brother in law (loved), he's dead now from HIV. And I dearly love a cousin of mine. I just don't care for the company she keeps. They treat her badly. I have neighbors and classmates that are homosexual, and I care for them deeply.
You, I don't know, but you sound aggressive. So can I be, very.
I'm very sorry your family could not accept their perception of your "flaw". My father in law initially went through the same stages of denial when confronted with his son's declaration. But in time they came back together in love (well before his death).
But I will never forget his words, when he said he hated being gay, but could find no way to get out of it.
I just don't think there is anything healthy about living that way, personally, socially, or spriitually. But, You explain to me otherwise, and I will consider it. (explain means logical arguement, not belittlement or condenscending rhetoric, which I will not tolerate).
In the mean time, the Bishop has been cast out of the main church body, and the second Bishop has lost credibility, by the "majority" of the parishners. Because they counter the social norm. 10 percent of the population is not going to change the minds of the remainder. It was tried once (by the nazis), what a success that was. 37 states have ratified laws prohibiting gay marriage and 11 states have laws pending on the books. That leaves 3 states you can live in and be "married or domestically partnered too". Hardly a majority, sir. Of course all of Canada legally allows for same sex partnership. Perhaps they will welcome your citizenship as well. Last time I checked though, Canadians don't like US citizens in the long term, only their money and temporary vacation time. I should know, I lived there for a long time.
You are not hated, but what you stand for is hated. Have I made myself clear now, sir?
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