The Yoga Path

Yoga is a tiny word with a huge amount of meaning.
No-one is contesting that. Have some patience with us poor blind people who have just now chanced upon this magnificent elephant of yours :)

Still, having read about the eightfold path described on that side, training of the mind and mental faculties is a recurring theme. It may be a bit coarse to lump all such training together under "meditation", but here we are, just starting to discover.

Question: in most traditions that use Sanskrit that I'm aware of, "brahmacarya" does actually imply celibacy, but the text you linked gives a more abstract, generalized explanation about good relationships. Is this a modern or westernizing development?
 
Question: in most traditions that use Sanskrit that I'm aware of, "brahmacarya" does actually imply celibacy, but the text you linked gives a more abstract, generalized explanation about good relationships. Is this a modern or westernizing development?

In the broadest sense, a couple can still engage in sexual union, but leading to having a better and closer union with God. Everything has to be for the benefit of getting closer to God.

This link explains more:

https://www.maitreyiparadigm.com/bl...ion-yoga-of-the-male-female-energy-principles
 
There are some obvious similarities between Yama/Niyama and the Ten Commandments (and the Buddhist analogue, the Precepts).

How do you observe the Niyamas?
 
God meets me where I am?

But I think people are more interested in my own words and personal point of view than if I post links and videos, which often get just a quick skim at best.

Links and videos may be good to illustrate, but it's like: read this, watch that ...
 
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Great to post long explanations if one has the time. I don't.
No worries, this is a site for personal dialogue, not systematic teaching. We can all google terms like Niyama, but only you can share your own personal perspective on your faith, which is what everyone here is interested in.
 
Great to post long explanations if one has the time. I don't.
Hey, it's great to have you on the forums. I think the word is just a tag for the experience anyway.

Water is water but there are different words in different languages and it appears in different ways: in rivers and seas and so on. Perhaps it's the same with spiritual experience? Once I have touched water I know what it is, but until then it's just a word to me.

I read something and think: 'Oh yes, I can relate'

Something like that?
 
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No worries, this is a site for personal dialogue, not systematic teaching. We can all google terms like Niyama, but only you can share your own personal perspective on your faith, which is what everyone here is interested in.

OK. For me that comes in time. I'm not one to quickly talk about my personal experiences on a public forum until I feel comfortable enough to share it.

Thanks for the explanation.
 
Krisha Mitra Das —

I like to start off by saying the Yoga path is a philosophy...
Yes, I think that's a safer path in the West.

Of course there are two sides to every coin — Buddhism, it is often said, is a philosophy, not a religion, which is bunkum really, as Buddhism ticks all the boxes of a religion (if not confined to a particularly narrow, monotheist sense), and all religions contain, in more or less explicit manner, a philosophy.

The distinctions between 'religion' and 'philosophy' are largely a western, post-Enlightenment classification, and ever since it's become fashionable to declare that the philosopher isn't constrained by religious superstition, and the religious isn't troubled by thinking for him/herself! :D

Yoga means union in Sanskrit, specifically a path of deeper union with the Divine/God.
Precisely.

Yoga has been popularized as just poses, stretches or exercises ...
Consumerism does this: it looks to see how it can monetise everything that falls within its gaze. So it's tough to sell traditional yoga, it's a lot easier to sell keep fit. Same with meditation. Now it's almost as if mindfulness is the be-all and end-all of meditation practice.

The yogas you mention are, of course, universal, and are there to a greater or lesser degree in all religions.

Speaking as a Christian, I think it's a pity that 'the body' has accrued such negative connotations. We've lost so much via this process, and you have to look quite hard to find the equivalence, usually locked away in monastic practice.
 
Bhakti most of the time is not silent, devotional songs. Whatever type of meditation it is, people will generally begin with a chant. My observation.
 
Bhakti most of the time is not silent, devotional songs. Whatever type of meditation it is, people will generally begin with a chant. My observation.

You may be right, as I don't have stats on this, but I did mention chanting being important in Bhakti Yoga as well. Thanks for the comment! :)
 
But reaching that depth is extremely difficult. The deeply devout person who enters the path of Yoga with the goal of reaching its summits as just mentioned in the previous paragraph will give themselves up entirely to Yoga, give to Yoga all their time and all their energy, all their thoughts, feelings and motives. They must strive to harmonize themselves, to achieve an inner unity with the Divine....avoiding distractions, like strivings, moods, and desires, self-gratifications...Its focusing one's powers to serve one aim: Total union with God. Yoga demands all this, but Yoga also helps to attain it by showing the means by which it can be reached. Some of the ways are these four major types of Yoga in life to help a person along to reach the deepest union with God are:
But reaching that depth is extremely difficult. The deeply devout person who enters the path of Yoga with the goal of reaching its summits as just mentioned in the previous paragraph will give themselves up entirely to Yoga, give to Yoga all their time and all their energy, all their thoughts, feelings and motives.
 
But reaching that depth is extremely difficult. The deeply devout person who enters the path of Yoga with the goal of reaching its summits as just mentioned in the previous paragraph will give themselves up entirely to Yoga, give to Yoga all their time and all their energy, all their thoughts, feelings and motives.
You say all the right words. But the practice of spiritual flows and mentality is not just a concept and you are describing it to be. In all honesty as a Christian meditation doesnt involve all the works of God. You are making it out to be something which is totally spiritually incorporated but are not speaking in active detail on how exactly a person connects with the God or how it harmonises motivates and promotes good effective long term feelings, or controls thoughts. Explain the practical incorporation of these things within meditation?
 
God is not important in meditation, In Yoga too. Buddhists manage without it.
"Unlike Sāṅkhya, which takes a non-theistic approach, the yoga school of Hinduism accepts a "personal, yet essentially inactive, deity" or "personal god" (Ishvara)." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoga
 
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