Who created God?

muhammad_isa said:
..human beings can be devils.
i.e. they are created beings capable of evil

It's all about authority .. not taking other than G-d as an equal authority.
G-d has no needs .. sin is that which is detrimental to us.

Not that again.. :rolleyes:
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But your book mentions them as a different species.
We worship a thousand Gods and Goddesses and no sin devolves on us, even if we do not worship some or any. Sin is in our actions with other people.
What is wrong in asking for evidence of existence of God or claims of being messengers?
 
Aupmanyav said:
Don't get it. Sin is harm/pain that we may do to other people. Is there any other kind of sin?
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Yes .. we can sin against ourselves.
eg. get intoxicated to the extent we know not what we do

In any case, you should know better:-
According to Hinduism, pāpa (sin) is a transgression, or demerit, signifying deeds or intentions that transgress moral and spiritual laws, resulting in negative karma and tying a person to the cycle of rebirth (samsara).
 
Alif Balaam Yashin said:
The Baha'i conclusion “there is no evil in existence” is reached not by observing reality, but by protecting the premise that a perfectly good creator cannot create evil. Evil may depend on good, distort good, or parasitize good, but it is 'not' nothing. It is real, causal, and morally significant. Any philosophy that denies this does so at the cost of moral clarity and lived human truth.
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The quoted passage did not say “there is no evil in existence”, it says it "all evil returns to non existence", so your response is likewise flawed.

Do not quote me, you will need to respond to the quoted passage, that is the official Baha'i Writings.

Regards Tony
 
Tony Bristow-Stagg said:
The quoted passage did not say “there is no evil in existence”, it says it "all evil returns to non existence", so your response is likewise flawed.
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All good too returns to non-existence. Nothing beyond death or destruction for living as well as non-living. A rock hurtles down a slope and is broken. The old rock does not exist. the same thing happens even to its fragments. They are just recycled.
 
Aupmanyav said:
All good too returns to non-existence. Nothing beyond death or destruction for living as well as non-living. A rock hurtles down a slope and is broken. The old rock does not exist. the same thing happens even to its fragments. They are just recycled.
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I see that that good is cyclic, everything, even faith is subject to cycles.

Birth, growth, childhood, teenager, adolescents, adulthood, old age, death, repeated.

Love is the cause of creation, death does not need to overtake us.

Regards Tony
 
Aupmanyav said:
Laws are not beliefs..
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They are a product of a nation's beliefs.

Aupmanyav said:
People of any nation should not follow false belief, it does not do them any good.
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..and who's to say what is true and what is false?

You have your beliefs, and I have mine.
If we were both in parliament, we would likely vote differently on some issues.
 
Tony Bristow-Stagg said:
The quoted passage did not say “there is no evil in existence”, it says it "all evil returns to non existence", so your response is likewise flawed.

Do not quote me, you will need to respond to the quoted passage, that is the official Baha'i Writings.

Regards Tony
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Go back and read what I said, correctly this time.
(The Baha'i conclusion “there is no evil in existence” )

I never quoted you, nor did I quote your scripture . . . as for the rest, I guess you have nothing.
Thanks for playing . . .
 
Tony Bristow-Stagg said:
Birth, growth, childhood, teenager, adolescents, adulthood, old age, death, repeated.

Love is the cause of creation, death does not need to overtake us.
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That is theist Hinduism. Do you believe in that.
No thanks to God. He had a defective blue print.
Please your self. Death does overtake all things.
 
Alif Balaam Yashin said:
Go back and read what I said, correctly this time.
(The Baha'i conclusion “there is no evil in existence” )

I never quoted you, nor did I quote your scripture . . . as for the rest, I guess you have nothing.
Thanks for playing . . .
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Faith is not a game and your conclusion was yours, not Baha'is.

Regards Tony
 
Tony Bristow-Stagg said:
Faith is not a game and your conclusion was yours, not Baha'is.

Regards Tony
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The Bahá’í Faith implies that Evil has no independent, created reality. It is a condition that arises wherever good is absent, obscured, or misused, and it disappears when good is fully present.

Your Faith begins with the protected premise: God is perfectly good and the sole source of being. From there, the ontology is forced to align. If evil were granted positive existence, the system would fracture, either God created evil, or something exists outside God’s creative act. So the move “evil has no existence” functions as a theodical safeguard, not as an observation derived from lived reality.
 
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