What does Dharma mean in your faith?

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What is the meaning of the term "Dharma", in your faith?

Is it a set of obligations?

Is it a set of teachings?

Is it an abstract set of "natural laws" and phenomena?

How does an adherent of your faith gain knowledge of their Dharma?
 
Obligations which will include the personal as well as social responsibilities. For example, engaging in righteous action is a social responsibility.

No numbered set, but what the wise people in India have said over the ages essential for personal and social happiness.

Elders, parents, religious stories, poetries, songs, dance dramas, books, Congregations (Sat-sang), lectures by religious leaders.

Please note, scriptures are not the major dispensers of information about 'dharma'. Much of India was uneducated till recently.
 
Obligations which will include the personal as well as social responsibilities. For example, engaging in righteous action is a social responsibility.
No numbered set, but what the wise people in India have said over the ages essential for personal and social happiness.
Elders, parents, religious stories, poetries, songs, dance dramas, books, Congregations (Sat-sang), lectures by religious leaders.
Please note, scriptures are not the major dispensers of information about 'dharma'. Much of India was uneducated till recently.

Thanks, interesting!

In families, it would be more the stories and songs and poems, I assume? Which stories are popular in your family, if I may ask?

Do the songs, dance, and drama still inform popular culture?
 
In families, it would be more the stories and songs and poems, I assume? Which stories are popular in your family, if I may ask?: How should I pick one? There are thousands from Ramayana, Bhagawat Purana, and other books. Story of Lord Rama is the most important. That is why Rama is known as 'personification of Dharma' (Ramah Videhavan Dharmah).

Do the songs, dance, and drama still inform popular culture: Yes, very much. Ram Lila, Ras Lila (North India), Jatra (Bengal), Pandavani (Central India), Padh (Rajasthan), Theyyam (Kerala).
Indian classical dances: Kathakali, Mohiniattam (Kerala), Bharatanatyam (Tamilnadu), Kathak (North India), Kuchipudi (Andhra Pradesh), Odishi (Odisha), Sattriya (Assam), Manipuri (Manipur).
These days, films, TV Serials, videos help spread of 'dharma'.

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Santoshi Maa: the Goddess of Contentment with what we have. Santosha - Contentment.
 
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Slightly confused....as Dharma does not exist (as I know it) in most religions....i take it your are.referring to the definition, the essence of the word/belief. So to answer I must know what exactly the definition you are.referring
 
'Dhārayet iti dharmah' (What should be borne is 'dharma'). 'What should be done by an individual for the betterment of society / family' is 'dharma'. It is related to what we do and has nothing to do with / is independent of philosophies or Gods. Therein lies the key to Hinduism.
 
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Obligations which will include the personal as well as social responsibilities. For example, engaging in righteous action is a social responsibility.

No numbered set, but what the wise people in India have said over the ages essential for personal and social happiness.

Elders, parents, religious stories, poetries, songs, dance dramas, books, Congregations (Sat-sang), lectures by religious leaders.

Please note, scriptures are not the major dispensers of information about 'dharma'. Much of India was uneducated till recently.

Are children in India's public schools taught Hinduism? I'm asking as a person not very familiar with India.
 
Are children in India's public schools taught Hinduism? I'm asking as a person not very familiar with India.
No. India is a secular country. Religious education is not a part of Indian school curriculum. The Muslim madarasas teach Quran, but things are changing.
 
What is the meaning of the term "Dharma", in your faith?

Is it a set of obligations?

Is it a set of teachings?

Is it an abstract set of "natural laws" and phenomena?

How does an adherent of your faith gain knowledge of their Dharma?



Dharma means justice. It is clearly known. To speak truth is justice. To speak a lie is injustice. “Speak truth” is called as vidhi dharma or justice insisted. “Don't tell a lie.” is nishedha dharma or negation of injustice. Apaddharma means the justice modified in certain cases. Dharma sukshma means the deep analysis of a case in which the apparent justice is contradicted by the subtle justice, which is hidden at the outset. Apaddharma is modification of justice in some special cases and the application of modification of justice is extended to every case by the human being saying that such case is a special case. Apaddharma means violation of justice in the case of difficulties and dangers.

It is said that you can tell lies in the case of marriage, danger to life, loss of money, loss of prestige, ladies, protection of cow and protection of preacher. When the violation of justice is done in the above cases without analysis, it is called as apaddharma. Same apaddharma is done in the case of all the above mentioned cases without analysis so that you can extend the violation of justice stamping every incident as a case of difficulty or emergency. But, if you do analysis of any specific case and then decide that the violation of justice is justified, such decision of very deep analysis is called as Dharma sukshma or subtle dharma. The subtle dharma should be voted against the gross apparent dharma.


I will explain this Dharma sukshma with the help of an example. A saint was having some money with him and robbers attacked him. The saint ran and was hiding himself in a dense bush. The robbers came there and asked a sage about the saint. The sage is very particular of telling truth only in his life. The sage showed to the robbers the bush in which saint is hiding himself. The robbers caught the saint, killed him and took away all the money possessed by saint. The sage was taken to hell after death for telling the truth and for not telling a lie. The higher justice is not to harm anybody (ahimsaa). Telling truth is justice of lower grade. You can violate the lower grade for the protection of upper grade. Hence, in that specific case, telling truth is injustice because harming the life of a saint is worse than telling the truth.

In this way, in that specific case, deep analysis is applied to find out the hidden subtle justice. This need not be generalized to every case. Instead the saint, a murderer running followed by police is hiding himself in a secret place observed by you. Here also if you show the murderer, he will be arrested by police and will be hanged to death. Here also the life of the murderer is harmed. Based on the first case, you should not tell a lie here, which will be total injustice. You have saved a murderer, who is going to kill several human beings in the future. Hence in both cases, danger of life is common. You should save the life of the saint but not the life of the murderer. You must distinguish these two cases and should not apply the principle that justice of lower grade can be violated to protect justice of higher grade. Hence, violation of justice mentioned in certain contexts should not be accepted in general unless every specific case is deeply analyzed before drawing the conclusion.

For example, it is said that telling lies to a lady is apaddharma. This is not correct. The nature of psychology depends upon the qualities of the individual soul and not on the minute differences in their gross bodies resulting in the difference of gender. The place of lady should be replaced by a 'human being telling lies'. Hence scripture should not be followed blindly because some person having the ego of male domination should have introduced this word in the scripture, which is proved to be wrong through analysis. The above statement of apaddharma is from the Mahabharatam written by sage Vyasa in which several insertions were done.


Deep analysis to find out the subtle truth is a necessity in the case of spiritual knowledge also. Following the statement of scripture blindly is to be avoided since you must note that even the scripture has the possibility of adulteration, be it even the original scripture like the Veda. We are not contradicting the scripture Veda spoken by God. We only contradict an insertion of a mischievous person in the case of any scripture.
 
Dharma means justice. It is clearly known. To speak truth is justice. To speak a lie is injustice. “Speak truth” is called as vidhi dharma or justice insisted. “Don't tell a lie.” is nishedha dharma or negation of injustice. Apaddharma means the justice modified in certain cases. Dharma sukshma means the deep analysis of a case in which the apparent justice is contradicted by the subtle justice, which is hidden at the outset. Apaddharma is modification of justice in some special cases and the application of modification of justice is extended to every case by the human being saying that such case is a special case. Apaddharma means violation of justice in the case of difficulties and dangers.

It is said that you can tell lies in the case of marriage, danger to life, loss of money, loss of prestige, ladies, protection of cow and protection of preacher. When the violation of justice is done in the above cases without analysis, it is called as apaddharma. Same apaddharma is done in the case of all the above mentioned cases without analysis so that you can extend the violation of justice stamping every incident as a case of difficulty or emergency. But, if you do analysis of any specific case and then decide that the violation of justice is justified, such decision of very deep analysis is called as Dharma sukshma or subtle dharma. The subtle dharma should be voted against the gross apparent dharma.


I will explain this Dharma sukshma with the help of an example. A saint was having some money with him and robbers attacked him. The saint ran and was hiding himself in a dense bush. The robbers came there and asked a sage about the saint. The sage is very particular of telling truth only in his life. The sage showed to the robbers the bush in which saint is hiding himself. The robbers caught the saint, killed him and took away all the money possessed by saint. The sage was taken to hell after death for telling the truth and for not telling a lie. The higher justice is not to harm anybody (ahimsaa). Telling truth is justice of lower grade. You can violate the lower grade for the protection of upper grade. Hence, in that specific case, telling truth is injustice because harming the life of a saint is worse than telling the truth.

In this way, in that specific case, deep analysis is applied to find out the hidden subtle justice. This need not be generalized to every case. Instead the saint, a murderer running followed by police is hiding himself in a secret place observed by you. Here also if you show the murderer, he will be arrested by police and will be hanged to death. Here also the life of the murderer is harmed. Based on the first case, you should not tell a lie here, which will be total injustice. You have saved a murderer, who is going to kill several human beings in the future. Hence in both cases, danger of life is common. You should save the life of the saint but not the life of the murderer. You must distinguish these two cases and should not apply the principle that justice of lower grade can be violated to protect justice of higher grade. Hence, violation of justice mentioned in certain contexts should not be accepted in general unless every specific case is deeply analyzed before drawing the conclusion.

For example, it is said that telling lies to a lady is apaddharma. This is not correct. The nature of psychology depends upon the qualities of the individual soul and not on the minute differences in their gross bodies resulting in the difference of gender. The place of lady should be replaced by a 'human being telling lies'. Hence scripture should not be followed blindly because some person having the ego of male domination should have introduced this word in the scripture, which is proved to be wrong through analysis. The above statement of apaddharma is from the Mahabharatam written by sage Vyasa in which several insertions were done.


Deep analysis to find out the subtle truth is a necessity in the case of spiritual knowledge also. Following the statement of scripture blindly is to be avoided since you must note that even the scripture has the possibility of adulteration, be it even the original scripture like the Veda. We are not contradicting the scripture Veda spoken by God. We only contradict an insertion of a mischievous person in the case of any scripture.

To me personally, these terms you are using are just bottomline in meanings. Apa meaning going against so apaddharma would mean going against the way or a bad or dirty way, and sukshma would mean to be precise or highly and precisely address something, and nishedha meaning prescribed if I may use that word.

But your post is fantastic informing me on the conceptual side of Hinduism with these terms. I really like this forum. ;) The information is fantastic mate. I am truly taken aback.

I like it.
 
Fredragon, Apa-dharma and Apad-dharma are two different things. Apad is a special situation, a calamity. So, in that situation, we may need to apply different solution, like telling a lie.
 
Fredragon, Apa-dharma and Apad-dharma are two different things. Apad is a special situation, a calamity. So, in that situation, we may need to apply different solution, like telling a lie.

Hmm. You are right. Not bad mate. Appreciated.
 
@Firedragon
We had to let Dattaswami go. For the fourth time.
We really tried to give him a chance.

He was not co-operating with our code of conduct, and was flooding the boards with cut-and-paste tracts (many of which have been removed) from his own website, where he believes himself to be the latest human incarnation of god, etc. He has a You Tube channel. If you Google 'Datta Swami' you will bring up a lot of stuff about him.

Of course that does not stop the thread debate going on here without him ...
 
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@Firedragon
We had to let Dattaswami go. For the fifth time.
We really tried to give him a chance.

He was not co-operating with our code of conduct, and was flooding the boards with cut-and-paste tracts (many of which have been removed) from his own website, where he believes himself to be the latest human incarnation of god, etc. He has a You Tube channel. If you Google 'Datta Swami' you will bring up a lot of stuff about him.

Of course that does not stop the thread debate going on here without him ...

That means he is promoting his business.

But I truly appreciate you giving his name in youtube, although I will never visit it since he was marketing it in the forum.

Cheers.
 
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