What I believe

Bart Ehrman

 
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Psalm 82:1-8, which also contains the caveat "however you will die like men and fall like any other ruler." (The curse Yitzak Tover referred to.)
That is what we are given this round eh?

Limited time...lotso opportunity to practice for next round.
I think he's referring to the OT curse
Deuteronomy 21: 22-23:

And if a man has committed a crime punishable by death and he is put to death, and you hang him on a tree, his body shall not remain all night on the tree, but you shall bury him the same day, for a hanged man is cursed by God
 
Does the book still reflect your views?

No, it does not. In fact, since I linked to a rough draft, much of the book does not reflect views that I ever had. I exaggerated some of my positions against other forms of Gnosticism, for instance, as a way of getting my disagreements as dramatically on paper as possible. The end result means that I look like I fell a bit victim to the tyranny of small differences.

It needs a lot of cleaning up. I've been unsure about the moral implications of cleaning it up and publishing it physically, given that it no longer reflects my views, but I might be able to justify it with feedback from enough Gnostics so that my book can more accurately reflect real beliefs.
 
Try not to remain as ignorant of our code of conduct as you are about everything else. Just read it, and then go figure. No-one has the time to try explaining all your mistakes to you. I surely do not
seems like they are censoring me because I'm jewish
 
seems like they are censoring me because I'm jewish

I think they would be okay if you said the same things you did, but prefaced it with "I believe that" or "I think that."

You're a somewhat new user and the admins here are just trying to keep things polite and avoid flame wars. If they wanted to censor you, I think they probably would have just deleted your posts.

They're just concerned with tone, not content. There might be a slight bias against you because you're a newer member and we aren't familiar enough with you to know your tone yet is all.

I, for one, am interested in hearing your thoughts and hope this doesn't put you off of the forum.
 
jesus ' father greater than I. I can do nothing on my own ' bible ' god is not a man. he who dies on cross is cursed ' clearly Jesus not god

Butting in. Your post isn't related to the OP. How does it relate to the original post?
 
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Butting in. Your post isn't related to the OP. How does it relate to the original post?
I believe he believes you are stating what you dont believe instead of what you do believe and that your post sounds more anti interfaith (lettuce stir.soup) instead of ( find common ground)

But I am just guessing.
 
I believe he believes you are stating what you dont believe instead of what you do believe and that your post sounds more anti interfaith (lettuce stir.soup) instead of ( find common ground)

But I am just guessing.

Did you mean this for Draco?

I actually can't follow the logic of the thread unless some posts are missing. I agree with Ella S. We haven't got used to new members tone. How does Jesus not being God relate to Draco99 beliefs? Shrugs.
 
I believe he believes you are stating what you dont believe instead of what you do believe and that your post sounds more anti interfaith (lettuce stir.soup) instead of ( find common ground)

But I am just guessing.
oh ok. fair enuff. I left church for islam in 2002. monotheism just trumps trinity trigod for me
 
trinity trigod
trinity not trigod. indivisible proton is three quarks, that can only exist in combination. heard of proton?

not perfect analogy, but get the idea: 3 = 1

tell again when you left church for islam -- i forget
 
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Father and son are human anthropomorphic words used to explain a spiritual concept in limited human words to limited minds. God is not really an actual Father in the sky. It's an attempted explanation for the relationship between God the Father and Christ the son.

They are human words to explain the relation between Spirit and nature.
 
trinity not trigod. indivisible proton is three quarks, that can only exist in combination. heard of proton?

not perfect analogy, but get the idea: 3 = 1

tell again when you left church for islam -- i forget

God is the Father.
The Son is not the Father.
Therefore, The Son is not God.

Or a more fun one, although it violates syllogistic form:

God is the Father.
The Son is God.
The Son is not the Father.
God is not God.
 
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God is the Father.
The Son is not the Father.
Therefore, The Son is not God.

Or a more fun one, although it violates syllogistic form:

God is the Father.
The Son is God.
The Son is not the Father.
God is not God.
But those are anthropomorphic concepts. It doesn't apply to the relationship between Spirit and nature. It's like using grade one math to try to express the theory of relativity. It's just too limited.

Quarks don't exist alone in nature.

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And it's made worse when someone doesn't want to learn or understand -- not addressed to you of course @Ella S.
 
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