Namaste Bandit,
thank you for the post.
Bandit said:
Hello Vajradhara,
Newtons' understanding of Gravity- that is what I mean as old science. the thing is people believed it,
however, Newtons' ToG, does not nessesitate that one accept it on belief, you can toss an apple in the air and observe the same effects. Facts and theories are different things. facts are the universes data and theories are structures of ideas to explain the observed facts.
as our ability to observe increased, we discovered that Newtons Gravity Model was accurate only for large structures in the universe, molecules, you, me, planets and stars.
my point here is that belief in these observations is not required. one can observe them for oneself.
just like some people believe man came from monkeys...(new science and there is no proof)
fortunately, evolution doesn't make the claim that humans came from monkeys, so they would be right to without their assent to this idea until evidence was presented. however, humans and monkeys do have a common ancestor, which is what evolution posits, and for which we have evidence.
I know science works on theories, that is all fine. It is just not for me to get all excited over the perhaps, maybe or maybe nots, but that does not mean I don't have an interest in some of it.
by contrast, i'm pretty excited about theories... especially ones like Germ Theory, which states that it is really microscopic organisms that cause our illnesses, not possession by demons or "humors" or what have you.
When they go as far to say the earth is over 4.5 billion years old, I fail to see the point in that. Even if one can prove it is that old to the exact day, man cannot comprehend it.
why do you say that humanity cannot comprehend 4.5 billion years?
Most of this stuff is not really even an issue for me. I want to enjoy the 70 or so years I have on earth and I see all the theories as just kind of there hanging in the balance. On the other hand I am glad that some find a deep interest in it and can dedicate there lives to it.
especially those folks that are working to cure diseases and illnesses, yes?
I think I am speaking of the Julian or Gregorian calendar. 365 days and every four years we add a day. Correct? at least that has been working out for me so far.
'natch.
here's some info on the Julian and Gregorian calendars:
When Julius Caesar became pontifex maximus, the Roman calendar had been so much abused that January was falling in autumn. At this point the methods of the Egyptian calendar were borrowed for the Roman. Julius Caesar, on the advice of the astronomer Sosigenes, added 90 days to the year 46 B.C. (67 days between November and December, 23 at the end of February). This caused the spring of 45 B.C. to begin in March. To retain this position of the seasons, he changed the length of most of the months: March, May, Quintilis (later named July after Julius Caesar), and October he left as they were; he added 2 days each to January and Sextilis (later named August to honor the Emperor Augustus); February was 28 days long except that in every fourth year a day was inserted between the 23d and the 24th of the month.
In Roman computation three days in the month were used for counting the date. These three were the Kalends (1st day of the month), the Nones (the 7th day in March, May, July, and October, the 5th in the other months), and the Ides (the 15th day in March, May, July, and October, the 13th in the other months). The days were counted before, not after, the Kalends, Nones, and Ides. Thus, Jan. 10 was the fourth day before the Ides of January or the fourth day of the Ides of January, because the Romans counted inclusively. Jan. 25 was the eighth of the Kalends of February, Feb. 3 was the third of the Nones of February. Feb. 23 was the seventh of the Kalends of March and remained so when an intercalary day was inserted every fourth year between it and Feb. 24; hence in a leap year there were two days counted as the sixth of the Kalends of March. The leap year was therefore called bissextile [Lat.,=sixth twice]. There is a legend that alterations in the length of the months were made later by Augustus to flatter his own vanity, but there seems to be no foundation for this story.
The Gregorian Calendar
The Julian year is 365 days 6 hr, hence a little too long. Therefore, by the 16th cent. the accumulation of surplus time had displaced the vernal equinox to Mar. 11 from Mar. 21, the date set in the 4th cent. In 1582 Pope Gregory XIII rectified this error. He suppressed 10 days in the year 1582 and ordained that thereafter the years ending in hundreds should not be leap years unless they were divisible by 400. The year 1600 was a leap year under both systems, but 1700, 1800, and 1900 were leap years only in the unreformed calendar. The reform was accepted, immediately in most Roman Catholic countries, more gradually in Protestant countries, and in the Eastern Church the Julian calendar was retained into the 20th cent. The present generally accepted calendar is therefore called Gregorian, though it is only a slight modification of the Julian.
The reform was not accepted in England and the British colonies in America until 1752. By that date the English calendar was 11 days different from that of continental Europe. For the intervening period before the reform was introduced into the English calendar, the Gregorian style is called the New Style (N.S.), and the Julian the Old Style (O.S.). New Style years begin Jan. 1, but Old Style years began usually Mar. 25. Thus Washington's birthday, which is Feb. 22, 1732 (N.S.), was Feb. 11, 1731 (O.S.). To avoid confusion sometimes both styles are given; thus 11 Feb. 1731/22 Feb. 1732.
http://www.factmonster.com/ce6/society/A0857113.html
I am not very good with math and conversions, but I do have an interest in the Jewish Calendar- Is that what they call Gods Calendar? 360 days a year?
I am not sure when the Maya calendar and all the others were established.
you can read about the Jewish calendar here:
http://www.factmonster.com/ce6/society/A0857115.html