But you can?Are you one with them, to answer for them?
Regards Tony
But you can?Are you one with them, to answer for them?
Regards Tony
But I don’t agree with himBaha'u'llah has.
Regards Tony
But I don’t agree with him
That is your prerogative.
I would only offer that such is the state of this world, where our own views seem better than God's Guidance.
I will most likely leave you all in peace soon, leave this all alone.
Regards Tony
But Moses was not a manifestation of God. In the Abrahamic Traditions, prophets are not considered manifestations of God. They are accorded reverence and respect, but nor worship. They – especially Moses – are intercessors with God on behalf of the people, but they are not divine, rather they are instruments of the divine.Jesus at the least referred to Moses and that Moses was connected to the Message Jesus Gave.
Indeed, but this is in the context of a larger discourse – John 5:17-47. His argument is that had His audience believed in Moses absolutely, then they would recognise Jesus as the prophesied Messiah.John5:46 "For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me."
Logically that is saying, had you believed in Moses, then you would recognise that it was Jesus Moses had written about.
The text says Messiah, singular, not plural.If you beleive in Moses, then you would beleive in Jesus, Muhammad, The Bab and Baha'u'llah as He (Moses) wrote about them One and All.
Sadly, here we part ways. The Trinity was declared by Christ in Scripture. Indeed, some would say it was veiled in the Old Testament, but disclosed in the New. The doctrine derives from and depends on His own words. Had He not said (and done) as He did, the doctrine would never have arisen.With Jesus a glimpse of this station was given and man made a doctrine called the Trinity was made.
Depends on who is interpreting the text. To my eyes, Quran Chapter 3 ‘Al-Imran’ and Chapter 19 ‘Maryam’ say much the same as Luke with regard to the Annunciation and Divine Conception.The Message of Muhammad was required to show how Jesus was a Messenger from God and not God in Essence.
To your satisfaction, not mine.Baha'u'llah has cleared this up.
But this is not at all what the Scriptures say regarding the Prophets. The station of prophet – like priest and king – is not inherently Divine. Nor would the prophets of Israel ever declare themselves to be God, or 'the Self of God', the embodiment of Names or Attributes, indeed what Baha'u'llah claims for them they would consider blasphemy.Baha'u'llah has shown how in the Station of Divinity, the Messenger is all we can know of God, so in that Station, to us they are the 'Self of God', the embodiment of the Names and Attributes of God, but none are the Almighty unknowable God in Essence, who does not decend into creation. Great detail has been given on this.
Eureka!… the station in which one dieth to himself and liveth in God. Divinity, whenever I mention it, indicateth My complete and absolute self-effacement. This is the station in which I have no control over mine own weal or woe nor over my life nor over my resurrection.
I would allow that as hyperbole but theologically and metaphysically somewhat dubious.And, regarding His own relationship to God, He testifies:
When I contemplate, O my God, the relationship that bindeth me to Thee, I am moved to proclaim to all created things “verily I am God”; and when I consider my own self, lo, I find it coarser than clay!"
I think you're in error there.Yet men expect jesus to return as the same man of 2000 years ago, when Jesus already explained how it happens by showing that John the Baptist was Elijah, logically telling us that it is the attributes that return, not the flesh.
Then Jesus was wiser, He saw that no man-made institution would ever achieve that. Only at the End of Days ...Baha'u'llah said there will need to be a World Legislative thay all Nations submit to...
I am lost for words.we know America will drive the Peace effort and will suffer greatly because of that role...
Yes we will all leave soon. It is the only thing we truly know eh?
We have plenty of prophets which will tell us G!d's word and plenty of their acolytes which will spout interpretations...
Often seems more.entertainment and need to find agreeable peers to justify beliefs.
I am lost for words.
Maybe that is the best path for us to take upon these topics and let God’s Will be done on earth as it is in Heaven by living our Faiths.
Thought a would share a post from a friend from Facebook. This is from the page called "The Shirt". The Shirt is printed with 1260AH=1844D=1BE
The topic to discuss will be this quote from FB "The Shirt"
"The Return ..."
Thanks for sharing this Tony...The "creator" of The Shirt.... Dale Ramsdale was active in my community for some years. He also had dialogue with some Adventists at Loma Linda University for awhile. I also knew Fari Ramsdale who gifted my family with an orange tree sprout in a small Milk carton. We cultivated and cared for the sprout for several years. The sprout was from a tree cultivated by the Bab at His residence.. After the destruction of the house of the Bab in 1979 seedlings were sent to Baha'is around the world. Soon the sapling became a tree. I wondered if it would ever bear fruit... then on the occasion of the bicentennial of the Birth of the Bab I couldn't believe it... The tree bore fruit on the eve of the Bicentenary in 2019! https://bicentenary.bahai.org/
Even in Bahaollah's time, Allah sent Mirza Ghulam Ahmad. He was born in 1835.Why should Baha'u'llah lay claim to the title for the next 1000 years?
That he gave even to Zoroaster. So what is new?God has given us guidance to find universal peace as a mature human race should be doing.
I don't see any reason why Hindus should abandon their many Gods and Goddesses. Hindus think that One God hypothesis has no legs to stand upon.I see Muhammad taught how to become one people under One God (Allah).