An hour long special designed to convince I should watch?
It is an overview of the other material offered for review above. It's a professional BBC documentary -- like the Brian Cox science documentaries and others. The BBC does them well -- so I don't know how someone can say its designed to convince without watching it
I tried opening the links provided but they are older than the 2018 Vatican report suggesting 95% likelihood last millenia.
Do you mean this study, by the people who did not actually examine the shroud?
https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/...uthenticity-of-bloodstains-on-shroud-of-turin
Study questions authenticity of bloodstains on Shroud of Turin
Rome, Italy, Jul 18, 2018 / 13:56 pm
A study on the Shroud of Turin based on bloodstain pattern analysis used to investigate crime scenes has sparked fresh debate on what is believed to be Christ's burial cloth, saying the marks left by the blood flow are not authentic.
The study, "A BPA Approach to the Shroud of Turin," was published July 10 in the Journal of Forensic Sciences.
In comments to CNA, the leading author, Dr. Matteo Borrini, said that after doing extensive experiments, the results show that bloodstains flowing from Christ's wrists and a spot where he was stabbed in the side with a spear "are not the blood stains of a man who was crucified."
The stains "are not realistic" in terms of the direction blood would flow from those type of wounds, he said, adding that he believes that "the stains were done artificially."
Professor Paolo Di Lazzaro, the director of research at the International Center of Sindonology in Turin, said Borrini's methods, while sound, would require more time and "specific attention" to details in order to be "scientifically valid and authoritative."
… Archbishop Nosiglia said numerous studies have been done which either prove or disprove the authenticity of the shroud.
In 2017, for example,
a study was done suggesting that the blood on the shroud was that of a "torture victim."
However, regardless of the outcome of such research, the archbishop said the guiding principle of any research ought to be "neutrality."
"If one begins with a preconception and directs the research toward proving it, then it will easily be confirmed", he said, adding that operating on the basis of a preconception "nullifies the neutrality proper to science with respect to personal convictions."
Borrini, a forensic anthropologist teaching at the Faculty Science of the the School of Natural Sciences and Psychology at the John Moores University in Liverpool, is Catholic and is an expert in bloodstain pattern analysis.
Borrini collaborated in his research with Luigi Garlaschelli, a chemist and professor at the University of Pavia, who is also a member of the sceptic educational organization the Italian Committee for the Investigation of Claims of the Pseudosciences …
There are many who dispute it:
Vatican City, Jul 23, 2018 / 02:46 pm (CNA).- Several experts have questioned the scientific validity of a study on the Shroud of Turin that concluded that almost half the blood stains were “painted on,” based on simulations and photographs without the authors of the study having had access to...
www.catholicworldreport.com
Stains on Shroud of Turin painted on? Experts question new study
Vatican City, Jul 23, 2018 / 02:46 pm (
CNA).- Several experts have questioned the scientific validity of a
study on the Shroud of Turin that concluded that almost half the blood stains were “painted on,” based on simulations and photographs without the authors of the study having had access to the original linen cloth.
Forensic anthropologist Matteo Borrini and the chemist Luigi Garlarschelli published last week in the Journal of Forensic Sciences a paper on the Shroud based on the bloodstain patterns used to investigate crime scenes.
The Italian authors did not have access to the original linen cloth in the Turin cathedral, but based their experiments on photographs and models –including mannequins–which, for their critics are not scientifically equivalent to the cadaver that the shroud would have covered.
Borrini, a medical doctor maintains that the stains “aren’t realistic” and believes that “the stains were artificially made” because according to his simulations, blood should have flowed in other directions.
Emmanuella Marinelli, a scientist who has studied the Shroud of Turn since 1977 and has written more than 300 articles and several books on the subject questioned the methodology of Borrini’s study in a statement to ACI Prensa, the Spanish language sister agency of CNA.
“It clearly is not the same thing” to rely on a photograph and not have recourse to the shroud, Marinelli pointed out.
“These two investigators were among the group of scientists that have directly studied the shroud, and they have never seen it up close. Perhaps they have never even seen it from a ways off,” Marinelli also stated in La Nuova Bussola Quotodiana, an online news site published in Italian.
The authors state that they made their tests with real and synthetic blood applied both on volunteers and on mannequins. The stains that they consider to be disproven are found on the forearms and on the lumbar area.
In comments to reporters, the study’s authors deny the authenticity of the relic and refer to it as an “artistic or didactic representation of the passion of Christ done around the 14th century.”
“Neither of the investigators have the scientific qualifications to speak on it,” since as an anthropologist and a physician, the pair does not “have experience in human bloodstains,” explained Alfonso Sánchez Hermosilla, a doctor and forensic anthropologist of the research team of the Spanish Sindonology Center.
“In their study they say that the bloodstains they observed don’t match up to those they obtained in their experiment, but they don’t have the necessary knowledge and so they did not adequately design the experiment, and that is why their conclusions lack any scientific value,” he told ACI Prensa.
For Sánchez Hermosilla, since it doesn’t have “any value scientifically, (the study) should not have been published in a serious journal.”
Professor Paolo Di Lazzaro, vice-rector of the International Center of Sindonology of Turin, noted in a letter published by his diocese that the conditions under which bloodstains emanating from a tortured man and subjected to extreme conditions are produced are very different from those of a volunteer in good health or a mannequin, such as those studied by Borrini and Garlarschelli.
“It’s not possible to think that realistic conditions of the path taken by the blood on the body of a crucified man can be reproduced without considering all the factors that may have influenced that path in an important way,” he said ...
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