Does God really exist?

Thomas said:
Well that's a matter of perspective, isn't it.

Same could be said of everything you hold to be true.
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We have been down this road before. He had beliefs that failed his definitions of logic and evidence. But HIS beliefs are true. Everyone else's are false. I had hoped he would maybe grow a bit and revise his criticisms. I was so wrong.
 
'Amir Alzzalam said:
Perspective? I think not. Show me ANY substantial proof that ANY God, Goddess, Demon, or Angel objectively exists.
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This is a version of the worn-out and redundant science v religion debate.

wiki:
Argument from ignorance (Latin: argumentum ad ignorantiam), or appeal to ignorance,[a] is an informal fallacy where something is claimed to be true or false because of a lack of evidence to the contrary.

'Amir Alzzalam said:
"Same could be said of everything you hold to be true" . . . Oh? Such as what?
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The inner self?
 
Thomas said:
This is a version of the worn-out and redundant science v religion debate.

wiki:
Argument from ignorance (Latin: argumentum ad ignorantiam), or appeal to ignorance,[a] is an informal fallacy where something is claimed to be true or false because of a lack of evidence to the contrary.


The inner self?
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I've never used that term, I don't even know what it really means.
As worn out and redundant as it may be, thousands of years and still not ONE IOTA of PROOF of any Deity.
I bet I know why . . .
 
moralorel said:
We have been down this road before. He had beliefs that failed his definitions of logic and evidence. But HIS beliefs are true. Everyone else's are false. I had hoped he would maybe grow a bit and revise his criticisms. I was so wrong.
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Which of my beliefs have failed my definitions of logic and evidence?
I'm not even sure what you just said makes any sense . . .
 
'Amir Alzzalam said:
Which of my beliefs have failed my definitions of logic and evidence?
I'm not even sure what you just said makes any sense . . .
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Here we go again. Whenever I call out your hypocrisy or your empty claims you usually resort to insults, ignore me because you realize you're wrong, tell me to go away (for the same reason) or in one instance you actually admitted error. But let's have a look at some of your statements, shall we?

Quote 1: "On the Western Left Hand Path, there is no external god, no creator of the universe (objective universe), science is proving this day by day. What is misunderstood as GOD is the mythos of a Supreme Being/Absolute/All but in reality this is each of our Greater Self/GodSelf/Psyche/Soul. Not One God but Many."

Prove your statement.

Quote 2:
God Doesn't Exist

If God exists, then God is omnipotent, omniscient, and morally perfect.
If God is omnipotent, then God has the power to eliminate all evil.
If God is omniscient, then God knows when evil exists.
If God is morally perfect, then God has the desire to eliminate all evil.
Evil exists.
If evil exists and God exists, then either God doesn’t have the power to eliminate all evil, or doesn’t know when evil exists or doesn’t have the desire to eliminate all evil. Therefore . . .

God Doesn’t Exist
Once again, do explain. I have seen this logic before. It is quite the strawman and assumption, an assumption with no provided evidence. As Thomas stated, this is a False Dilemna Fallacy.
You explained it with the following:
"Whereas my example only touches on a couple of reasons why God is Impossible, it doesn't make it false."

The concept of 'god' fails in that:
1) There is no evidence of such a god
2) The idea is illogical
3) The preponderance of suffering remains
4) We don’t need an external god
5) Life is better without god

Prove the statements above.
 
'Amir Alzzalam said:
Which of my beliefs have failed my definitions of logic and evidence?
I'm not even sure what you just said makes any sense . . .
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"Then we don’t require an external God – he is an unnecessary addition, and we can get along perfectly well without him."

Prove that one as well. Or is humanity doing a good job of taking care of our planet and its inhabitants?
 
'Amir Alzzalam said:
Which of my beliefs have failed my definitions of logic and evidence?
I'm not even sure what you just said makes any sense . . .
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Another quote: "Evolution clearly explains how nothing is 'perfect' and even more so that there is no need for a Creator"

I'm waiting for the evidence for that belief.
 
'Amir Alzzalam said:
Which of my beliefs have failed my definitions of logic and evidence?
I'm not even sure what you just said makes any sense . . .
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This one should be fun "Evolution is SUBSTANTIATED, it is fact at this point in time..."

So it is the scientific fact of evolution? No longer theory? Evidence please!
 
Thomas said:
This is a version of the worn-out and redundant science v religion debate.

wiki:
Argument from ignorance (Latin: argumentum ad ignorantiam), or appeal to ignorance,[a] is an informal fallacy where something is claimed to be true or false because of a lack of evidence to the contrary.


The inner self?
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Greater self. He said "greater self", not inner self. Potato patato... I know.
 
"The fact is that the brains of other creatures have remained practically the same while man’s has “evolved” tremendously"

Fact huh? Should be easy to prove.
 
"The WLHP is different than theism because we have proof of our Greater Self"

We're still waiting on that proof.
 
moralorel said:
I was under the impression that he was a LaVeyan Satanist. If that's not the case, then this is going to get even more interesting.
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I thought that the different spelling "saytanist" had to do with an Islamic conception of Satan and a different group or approach.
But @'Amir Alzzalam could clarify?
 
Another belief without evidence....

"This Intelligent Designer is Within, it is not an external god, it is the god within. It is the Soul of each of us that enables our progress along with natural selection."
 
"No one created the Universe
No one created everything in the Universe"

You're going to go down the rabbit hole of "you can't prove a negative". But feel free to prove that the universe and everything in it began on its own. Or do feel free to give us your explanation, backed by evidence, of what happened.
 
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