Covid Origins

iBrian said:
What I find so strange is that when a lab experimenting on coronaviruses finds itself at the center of a new coronavirus outbreak, people would rather believe the same governments who both tried to cover up and lie about it, rather than what appears to be a more common sense conclusion.
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..but it's not a "common sense conclusion".
It is not based on evidence .. it's no more than an assumption.

There are plenty of other explanations, so I have no reason to believe it.
 
muhammad_isa said:
Mmmm .. and Trump told us that drinking bleach would cure it, a few years ago. 😑
Naturally, he later claimed that he was being sarcastic.

Almighty God knows best exactly what happened .. one shouldn't jump to conclusions.
I do believe that China holds responsibility for the pandemic, but other than that..

Political opinions can be biased.
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No he didn't. I watched the press conference myself. But if you can provide a video where he states that we should drink bleach, go for it.
 
muhammad_isa said:
In August 2024 the Lancet Microbe published an editorial saying it is "simply wrong" to assert that SARS-CoV-2 is of unnatural origin, and ascribed continued interest in the unnatural origin idea to irresponsible journalism and political motivation. The editorial expressed concern that the furore around the virus's origins had a "chilling effect" on legitimate virology research and could jeopardise mankind's safety from pathogens in the future.
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On April 18, 2025, the second administration of Donald Trump removed the online hub for federal COVID-19 resources, including COVID.gov and COVIDtests.gov, and redirected the domains to a whitehouse.gov landing page entitled "Lab Leak: The True Origins of COVID-19" endorsing the theory. Virologist Angela Rasmussen called the White House's website "pure propaganda, intended to justify the systematic devastation of... programs devoted to public health and biomedical research," and she said every claim made by the Trump administration was false or misleading.
COVID-19_lab_leak_theory -Wikipedia

I don't think the majority of scientists believe COVID originated in a laboratory.
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The Lancet Microbe editorial was written by scientists who were associated with or who worked for EcoHealth Alliance. They were the ones who were behind the lab leak in the first place. Biden punished them soon after for their actions by removing all funding from them. Trusting the August 2024 Lancet Microbe editorial would be like trusting a study claiming cigarettes don't cause cancer... and the study was put together by employees who worked for Marlboro.

usrtk.org

Scientist with conflict of interest leading Lancet COVID-19 Commission task force on virus origins

The public deserves an independent investigation into the origins of SARS-CoV-2 that is not tainted by conflicts of interest.
usrtk.org
 
muhammad_isa said:
..but it's not a "common sense conclusion".
It is not based on evidence .. it's no more than an assumption.

There are plenty of other explanations, so I have no reason to believe it.
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There is zero evidence that the virus has natural origins. Zero.
 
muhammad_isa said:
Mmmm .. and Trump told us that drinking bleach would cure it, a few years ago. 😑
Naturally, he later claimed that he was being sarcastic.

Almighty God knows best exactly what happened .. one shouldn't jump to conclusions.
I do believe that China holds responsibility for the pandemic, but other than that..

Political opinions can be biased.
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The problem is that Truth Social has close to zero correlation with truth. Meaning that if Trump says something you can neither conclude that it is probably true nor that it is probably false.
 
TheLightWithin said:
Probably referring to this
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Yep. He doesn't tell people to drink or inject bleach. If you saw the entire speech, which I watched live, a medical professional stated his plan for the "sanitizing solution" and then Trump repeated it. Trump even looks back at him during his speech because Trump seems confused by it as well. I felt the same way. But no bleach.
 
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