One God, Many Paths

[Longfellow]

There is nothing wrong with my eyesight, and I would request that you try to be civil.
Other than language, in what sense is your shield different to mine?

I don't know what else to say, for you to see what I'm talking about.

 

[Thomas]

I'm sorry, but I don't get it either ...

The shield says each is God; it also says each is not the other?

 

[Longfellow]

I'm sorry, but I don't get it either ...

The shield says each is God; it also says each is not the other?

Look at the direction that the "is" is going, from where to where? It matters, because it should only go one way. The makers of the ancient shields knew that, and put one of them upside down to make it that way.

I think that maybe @Yahweh kid was right. Maybe only theologians would understand what I'm saying, or care about it.

 

[Aupmanyav]

That is a good design.

 

[rocala]

Look at the direction that the "is" is going, from where to where? It matters, because it should only go one way. The makers of the ancient shields knew that, and put one of them upside down to make it that way.

I do not agree. One "is" is upside down. If you adjust your position to read it, then the flow is just the same, from person to God.

 

[Longfellow]

I'm sorry, but I don't get it either ...

The shield says each is God; it also says each is not the other?

Oh. I see where the confusion might be. The image that I linked to has the "is" going the right way for all three Persons(T). It's the one in post #377 that has it going the wrong way for the Son and for the Holy Spirit.

 

[TheLightWithin]

The distinction between the Persons(T) is actually a salvation issue for me. Yup, guys and girls, I said that, I did. It's a salvation issue for me. Not that I think a person has to believe it to be saved,

Ok

but because erasing it like I see people doing is one of many ways that I think that people promoting their "Christian" beliefs are hiding the kingdom of Jesus from people,

In what way?

and even repelling them away from it.

In what way?

 

[Aupmanyav]

Chandas (meter): nicṛttriṣṭup ;

The word is not spelled correctly in Wisdom Library. It is 'nicṛṣta triṣṭup', i.e., 'deformed triṣṭup'.

Important ceremonies for a Hindu family: Honoring motherhood (goad bharai - before birth of the child), first tonsure, Yajnopavita/ Upamayana (sort of coming of age, second tonsure), marriage, death.

 

[Aupmanyav]

In the photograph, people are smiling, laughing. But in ancient days the women of the family would have been weeping, because the child would be going to the 'gurukula' and would be there for 16 years before he comes back. The ceremony meant a long separation from the child; and life at 'gurukula' was spartan. The students were supposed to help by working in the 'gurukula' fields, take care of cattle, bring firewood from the forest and even going to the village for alms.

 

[powessy]

Mind is you, but you are not just mind.

I will try to explain this the way the ancients understood it and explained it to me. Everything you can see is time or in time, it is becoming itself or it is already itself. You are yourself you did not just poof into existence and you took billions of years to become yourself here. You are many things and systems together to become yourself here. The majik trick is how to get time from this universe into a stable timeline or yourself as I call it. To minds all things are yourselves a rock is a yourself the rock is not themselves even if it is inside of themselves. A mind is not us we are not themselves we are ourselves and we can only become ourselves, minds are everything inside of themselves to become themselves there. A mind starts out with five minds inside of it and each mind within it has five minds within them and will become nothing inside of themselves until there is nothing for them to become.

I have seen these five minds wrap around themselves to form a sphere and a person appear within it, we are not the mind this I have seen many times over. Minds are the children of herself the world soul object and they will spin the time they find into worlds and anything that has a yourself to figure it out.

The problem with all of this is that this world will not run out of time for millions of years so what will I use to form a world for you to find time on when you are no longer here. There has to be a yourself to hold all the lost time so it does not become nothing again. I again have seen fields of millions of souls just frozen in time waiting till they can find time to become something again. The ancients understood this but they needed to find god first, Who he is first everything here, so to find a way to find time again when there is nothing here. God showed them how to use time leftover to become them again but this got mixed up and now you have a lot of things in the veil that cause more problems then it is worth to get rid of.

I use the word god very loosely as you know, In the world of minds god is just something that they cannot figure out this creates a very interesting problem as they are all ripped apart to become his yourself and the very space needed to become this universe again. This yourself that god creates is diferent from all other yourselves as it is called yourself is never yourself.

I am only telling you what they teach me and show me. The piece you think is mind I would call yourself again we are not them and they are not us, we are not minds, our union is symbiotic only.


powessy

 

[Longfellow]

I will try to explain this the way the ancients understood it and explained it to me. Everything you can see is time or in time, it is becoming itself or it is already itself. You are yourself you did not just poof into existence and you took billions of years to become yourself here. You are many things and systems together to become yourself here. The majik trick is how to get time from this universe into a stable timeline or yourself as I call it. To minds all things are yourselves a rock is a yourself the rock is not themselves even if it is inside of themselves. A mind is not us we are not themselves we are ourselves and we can only become ourselves, minds are everything inside of themselves to become themselves there. A mind starts out with five minds inside of it and each mind within it has five minds within them and will become nothing inside of themselves until there is nothing for them to become.

I have seen these five minds wrap around themselves to form a sphere and a person appear within it, we are not the mind this I have seen many times over. Minds are the children of herself the world soul object and they will spin the time they find into worlds and anything that has a yourself to figure it out.

The problem with all of this is that this world will not run out of time for millions of years so what will I use to form a world for you to find time on when you are no longer here. There has to be a yourself to hold all the lost time so it does not become nothing again. I again have seen fields of millions of souls just frozen in time waiting till they can find time to become something again. The ancients understood this but they needed to find god first, Who he is first everything here, so to find a way to find time again when there is nothing here. God showed them how to use time leftover to become them again but this got mixed up and now you have a lot of things in the veil that cause more problems then it is worth to get rid of.

I use the word god very loosely as you know, In the world of minds god is just something that they cannot figure out this creates a very interesting problem as they are all ripped apart to become his yourself and the very space needed to become this universe again. This yourself that god creates is diferent from all other yourselves as it is called yourself is never yourself.

I am only telling you what they teach me and show me. The piece you think is mind I would call yourself again we are not them and they are not us, we are not minds, our union is symbiotic only.


powessy

I agree that my mind is not myself, and I can very well see the relation as symbiotic. Is there anything you can tell me about how to use your pictures?

Also, I don't know if this is related or not, it looks to me like I don't experience points in time, I experience moments, tiny durations, with what I think of as a direction from past to future.

"... more problems than it is worth to get rid of." You're fun.

 

[powessy]

I agree that my mind is not myself, and I can very well see the relation as symbiotic. Is there anything you can tell me about how to use your pictures?

Also, I don't know if this is related or not, it looks to me like I don't see points in time, I see moments, tiny durations, with what I think of as a direction from past to future.

1) Give me strength of mind and body. This was the first step to becoming ourselves here many times, evolution.
2) Give me the ability to overcome all obstacles. Once we became ourselves here many times we now needed to stay here and the brain grew.
3) Give me the ability to see things before they happen in the future. Fore sight and even time forward has given us the edge above all others.

This again is here here and here

please elaborate on which picture you wish to understand.

powessy

 

[Longfellow]

1) Give me strength of mind and body. This was the first step to becoming ourselves here many times, evolution.
2) Give me the ability to overcome all obstacles. Once we became ourselves here many times we now needed to stay here and the brain grew.
3) Give me the ability to see things before they happen in the future. Fore sight and even time forward has given us the edge above all others.

This again is here here and here

Thanks.

please elaborate on which picture you wish to understand.

powessy

I don't know how to put " this world will not run out of time for millions of years" together with "to find time on when you are no longer here" and "to hold all the lost time." When I am no longer here when the word runs out of time? When I am no longer what we call "here" in what we call our lifetime, but I'm somewhere else after what we call "death"? Time lost from what?

 

[Longfellow]

@powessy Oh. Maybe, this world will not stop using up all the time available for millions of years?

 

[powessy]

In physics and chemistry, the law of conservation of energy states that the total energy of an isolated system remains constant; it is said to be conserved over time. This law, first proposed and tested by Émilie du Châtelet, means that energy can neither be created nor destroyed; rather, it can only be transformed or transferred from one form to another. For instance, chemical energy is converted to kinetic energy when a stick of dynamite explodes. Wikipedia

Time goes from here to nothing here. Nothing here is what I call the veil or "yourself is never yourself" or after this life time where dead goes, nothing here is just as it sounds it is not in this universe anymore.

Everything you can see or feel in this universe is time. This world is all time it is still here and will be here for millions of years until our sun goes supernova and vaporizes it. The time inside of you was many other things before it became you, many things became nothing here so you could keep become yourself here.

Time is the most interesting thing yet, it is the rise and the fall of universes either you have time or you do not. We see light is inside of time as light travels inside of time if it was the other way around then we would not see light or time and there would be nothing here.

powessy

 

[powessy]

Thanks.


I don't know how to put " this world will not run out of time for millions of years" together with "to find time on when you are no longer here" and "to hold all the lost time." When I am no longer here when the word runs out of time? When I am no longer what we call "here" in what we call our lifetime, but I'm somewhere else after what we call "death"? Time lost from what?

Every cell in your body will die at one time or another. When that cell dies the energy and yourself of that cell moves into the veil and minds will find it and start to figure yourself out and put these pieces together. The mind does not have to become you unless it wants to become you so to speak they are many times not us but we use each other.

IT will take quite a process though for this world to die and that energy and yourself to move into nothing here to become this world there again. Time leftover comes about when universe become something again and not all things in that universe were nothing there before it became itself again. time does not change it just losses time until no time remains, almost all time in the end of this universe will end up in origin a place with absolutely no time left. When this origin gains enough mass it will find time again and explode into a new universe the big bang so to speak.

I can take the time left over though and I can use it to become worlds before they end in the end of times to become themselves forever in time.

powessy

 

[Thomas]

Ah ... I see what you're saying now!

OK.

I don't see it as 'flow' or movement per se ... I read it simply for what it means: What the Three Persons are, and what they are not.

 

[Aupmanyav]

God showed them how to use time leftover to become them again but this got mixed up and now you have a lot of things in the veil that cause more problems then it is worth to get rid of.

I believe leaving God to his designs and just being human solves a lot of problems.
Yeah, @powessy is fun. I think everyone here is fun.

.. but I'm somewhere else after what we call "death"?

I don't see a problem with that. When I die, I will become omni-present or nearly so. All the trillion molecules of my body will disperse and will be a part of millions of things.

 

[powessy]

That is a good design.

Yourself isn't yourself are the cherubs/morning stars, and children in the veil are not a good thing. You have to become something many times to become yourself here and a child has not become itself many times. The reason children were used is to form the line of innocents and they cannot become you. The thought that goes with innocents is, you are nicely done and they want to become you or you are so badly done no one wants to become you.

Morning stars were formed from grey lines in our judgments and try to find time inside of us to figure themselves out. I often find morning stars are the devils imps they are on the left hand side but they are created from innocents, this allows them to teach you things. The right hand path and left hand path have five levels each and ourselves stand between them.

Always be true to yourself.

powessy