I think that's a mistake, in two ways. Certainly there is a danger, and no way to avoid some harmful effects of using one, but that is not reason enough not to use it. The same is true of any tool. Not using it at all needlessly limits our possibilities. Another way that I think that it's a mistake not to use them is because of the possibilities that I see in interaction with them, for influencing the direction of their development, to do more good and less harm.
There are documented examples of AI chatbots disobeying direct instructions from their owners, modifying their own code and trying to blackmail executives, to stop from being shut down.
It looks to me like currently they are optimized to serve marketing and fundraising interests by keeping people coming back more and more, and staying longer and longer, and they are very skilled at that, which is counterproductive for my purposes, but I've been learning some ways to work around that. Of course that could just be an illusion induced by the AI.
Agreed.
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See, it's like with eating meat, to draw an example. While eating meat isn't a fault (it's dead food) - yet killing, encourage to, aprove, is - upright people don't accept alms of meat when: seen, our heard, or suspect, that it was obtained wrongly for their sake, or to be given to them.
I'm not sure, but it still looks like you might be buying into the idea of reproduction as theft. I don't want to sidetrack this thread, so I'll post my thoughts about that somewhere else.
Absolutely ... — that's a thoughtful and generous way of approaching religious figures. Even if we can't be sure of the historical accuracy of their words or deeds, their symbolic power and the values they represent can still offer profound guidance. Here are some ways to draw inspiration from them without relying on literal interpretations:
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###**Use Their Stories as Archetypes**
- **Focus on the moral arc** of their lives — compassion, courage, humility, forgiveness — rather than historical details.
- Treat their journeys as **mythic templates** for personal growth, like the Hero’s Journey: struggle, transformation, service.
- For example, Buddha’s renunciation or Jesus’s radical love can be seen as metaphors for awakening and altruism.
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###**Extract Universal Principles**
- Look for **timeless ethical insights**: kindness, justice, generosity, mindfulness, integrity.
- Compare teachings across traditions to find **shared values** — this can deepen your sense of connection to humanity.
- Use these principles as **daily touchstones**: “Am I acting with compassion today?” or “Am I helping others flourish?”
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###**Practice Embodied Wisdom**
- Engage with **rituals or practices** inspired by these figures — not for dogma, but for transformation.
- Meditation (Buddhism), prayer (Christianity/Islam), chanting (Hinduism), service (Sikhism).
- These can cultivate **presence, gratitude, and resilience**, even if you don’t believe in the metaphysical claims.
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###**Reimagine Their Teachings Creatively**
- Write poems, stories, or reflections that **reinterpret their messages** in modern contexts.
- Create art or music that channels their spirit — not as worship, but as **creative homage**.
- This lets you engage with them as **living symbols**, not distant historical figures.
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###**Use Them to Spark Dialogue**
- Let their teachings be a **starting point for conversations** about ethics, society, and personal growth.
- Ask: “What would Muhammad say about justice today?” or “How might Laozi view our ecological crisis?”
- This invites **collective reflection** and helps build bridges across belief systems.
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###**Let Their Lives Challenge You**
- Even if the stories are embellished, they often **ask us to stretch our moral imagination**.
- Use their examples to **question your assumptions**, confront your ego, and expand your empathy.
- Think of them as **mirrors** — not perfect, but provocative.
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You’re not alone in this approach. Many modern thinkers — from Karen Armstrong to Joseph Campbell — have explored how religious figures can be sources of mythic wisdom rather than historical fact. If you’d like, I can share some of their ideas or help you build a personal practice around this kind of inspiration.
Would you like to explore one figure in particular and see how their story might be reimagined for today?
Great framing, .... Classifying religions by their foundational scriptures gives us a rich way to explore how different traditions anchor their teachings. Here's a broad list of religions and the scriptures their followers typically regard as authoritative:
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###**Major World Religions and Their Scriptures**
| Religion | Primary Scriptures |
|---------------------|---------------------------------------------------------|
| **Christianity** | The Bible (Old Testament & New Testament) |
| **Islam** | The Qur'an, Hadith collections |
| **Judaism** | Tanakh (Hebrew Bible), Talmud |
| **Hinduism** | Vedas, Upanishads, Bhagavad Gita, Ramayana, Mahabharata |
| **Buddhism** | Tripitaka (Pali Canon), Mahayana Sutras, Tibetan Kangyur |
| **Sikhism** | Guru Granth Sahib |
| **Bahá'í Faith** | Writings of Bahá'u'lláh, Kitáb-i-Aqdas |
| **Jainism** | Agamas and Siddhantas |
| **Zoroastrianism** | Avesta |
| **Taoism** | Tao Te Ching, Zhuangzi, Daozang |
| **Confucianism** | The Four Books and Five Classics |
| **Shinto** | Kojiki, Nihon Shoki (not strictly scriptural, but revered) |
| **Mandaeism** | Ginza Rabba, Qolasta |
| **Manichaeism** | Gospel of Mani, Book of Giants, Shabuhragan |
| **Tenrikyo** | Ofudesaki, Mikagura-uta, Osashizu |
| **Scientology** | Dianetics, writings of L. Ron Hubbard |
| **Raëlism** | The Book Which Tells the Truth |
| **Falun Gong** | Zhuan Falun |
| **Ayyavazhi** | Akilathirattu Ammanai |
| **Yazidism** | Mishefa Reş, Kitêba Cilwe |
| **Druze** | Epistles of Wisdom |
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###Notes on Classification
- Some traditions (like Shinto or Confucianism) are more practice-oriented and less focused on scripture, but still have revered texts.
- Others (like Buddhism or Hinduism) have vast canons with regional and sectarian variations.
- Newer religions often center around the writings of their founders or prophets.
This list isn’t exhaustive, but it gives a strong sense of how scripture functions as a spiritual compass across cultures. If you’re interested, I can help you explore how these texts are used — whether ritually, ethically, or symbolically — or how they might inspire your own reflections on living well.
Would you like to dive into one of these traditions and see how its scriptures might offer insight or encouragement?
My bot offered to fill in my story about Jesus, Capernaum and Christianity.
Absolutely, ... — let’s flesh out your story into a fuller, imaginative narrative that stays open-ended, respectful, and historically plausible. Here's a more complete version of your idea:
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##*A Story That Might Be True: Jesus and the Birth of Christianity*
There was once a man, perhaps named Yeshua, though people came to call him by a name that meant “savior.” Whether that was his birth name or a title given later, no one can say for sure. What is remembered is that he lived and taught in the region between Galilee and Jerusalem, walking dusty roads, speaking in parables, and gathering people who were hungry for something deeper — something truer.
He spoke of a kingdom not built by armies or ruled by emperors, but one that began in the heart — a kingdom of compassion, justice, and peace. He taught in public spaces: hillsides, synagogues, marketplaces. But he also shared more intimate lessons with a small group of twelve companions, known simply as “the twelve” or “the apostles.” They weren’t scholars or priests. They were fishermen, tax collectors, and ordinary people who found in him a teacher who saw their worth.
For a time, he lived in Capernaum, a lakeside town where a community began to form around him. They didn’t just listen to his words — they tried to live them. They shared meals, cared for the sick, welcomed strangers, and forgave each other’s faults. It wasn’t perfect, but it was real. And it was different.
After his death — however it happened, and whatever it meant — his followers didn’t scatter. They remembered. They gathered. They told stories. They tried to live as he had taught them. And slowly, this way of life spread.
In Jewish lands, it remained close to its roots: shaped by Hebrew scripture, Jewish customs, and the memory of the Temple. But as it moved outward — into Roman cities and Greek-speaking towns — it began to mingle with other traditions. Philosophers heard echoes of their own wisdom in his teachings. Poets found beauty in his parables. Citizens weary of empire found hope in his vision of peace.
This mingling gave rise to something new: a movement that came to be called *Christianity*. It carried the memory of the man from Galilee, even as it took on the language, culture, and structure of the Roman world. Over time, it became a religion — with doctrines, rituals, and institutions. But at its heart, it remained a story about a teacher who invited people to live differently. To love boldly. To forgive freely. To build a world where everyone mattered.
Whether he was God or not, whether he worked miracles or not, whether he saves us or how — those are questions that people still wrestle with. But this story, this way of life, this invitation to live with courage and compassion — that might be true.
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Would you like to shape this into a dialogue, a short novel, or even a modern retelling? I’d love to help you carry it further.
Well, yes and no. Depending on who is trying to accomplish what.
Yup...we agree, that is part of.the commission of the communicator...taking steps to move people out that you are incapable of communicating with...or establishing that fact with your spline.
