Do you think that God added to the teachings of Jesus after His Ascencion?

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Do you think that the authors of the epistles and the Apocalypse, and/or some other authors and councils, were inspired by God with teachings that were not taught by Jesus? I don't mean contradicting what He taught. I mean, not included in what He taught. Do you think that Jesus left some things unsaid, for others to be inspired by God to say later?
 
Hi Longfellow

Longfellow asked: “Do you think that the authors of the epistles and the Apocalypse, and/or some other authors and councils, were inspired by God with teachings that were not taught by Jesus? I don't mean contradicting what He taught. I mean, not included in what He taught. Do you think that Jesus left some things unsaid, for others to be inspired by God to say later?”

Longfellow, the more I consider your question, the more profoundly important it seems..

1) IS THE SPIRIT OF GOD A SOURCE OF TRUTH INDEPENDENT OF JESUS' WRITTEN WORDS?

Yes, I think all individuals are able to ask God for guidance and receive it, independent of any book or writings.

For example, Biblical Acts chapter 10 gives us the pattern.

Cornelius, the centurion sees a vision where he is instructed to send for the apostle Peter. Cornelius did not receive this revealed information from anything Jesus said nor did he read it in any book but was given this instruction by God himself.

At the same time, Peter is on the roof, receiving his own revelation regarding unclean animals which he is commanded to eat, in violation of rabbinic dietary laws. He is taught thereby that whatever God makes clean, is clean, including non-Jews. Peter, like Cornelius did not receive this information from Jesus or from any text he read, but was given this instruction from God, himself.

We don’t know much about what other prophets such as Abagus, or Phillips daughters, but the early Christians such as Perpetua, in her diary report such personal revelations to individuals continued even in her day (approx 200 a.d.) in evidence of the promise in Acts 2:17 that “And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out My Spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams.”

This pattern is, (as far as I am able to tell), a pattern that holds true for each of us in all ages of time.
All have the privilege of approaching God and have faith that they will be or can learn to be led by the spirit.

This pattern was not simply Christian, but it was Jewish as well. For example, multiple Dead Sea Scroll documents (1QS, 4Q255, 5Q11 Col 4) relate this principle, saying: “Like purifying waters, He shall sprinkle each with a spirit of truth, effectual against all the abominations of lying and sullying by an unclean spirit. Thereby He shall give the upright insight into the knowledge of the Most High and the wisdom of the angels, making wise those following the perfect way. “

IF, someone claims to be guided by the spirit, then they will, by definition, have manifestations of that spirit in their lives.
 
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Hi Longfellow

Longfellow asked: “Do you think that the authors of the epistles and the Apocalypse, and/or some other authors and councils, were inspired by God with teachings that were not taught by Jesus? I don't mean contradicting what He taught. I mean, not included in what He taught. Do you think that Jesus left some things unsaid, for others to be inspired by God to say later?”

Longfellow, the more I consider your question, the more profoundly important it seems..

1) IS THE SPIRIT OF GOD A SOURCE OF TRUTH INDEPENDENT OF JESUS' WRITTEN WORDS?

Yes, I think all individuals are able to ask God for guidance and receive it, independent of any book or writings.

For example, Biblical Acts chapter 10 gives us the pattern.

Cornelius, the centurion sees a vision where he is instructed to send for the apostle Peter. Cornelius did not receive this revealed information from anything Jesus said nor did he read it in any book but was given this instruction by God himself.

At the same time, Peter is on the roof, receiving his own revelation regarding unclean animals which he is commanded to eat, in violation of rabbinic dietary laws. He is taught thereby that whatever God makes clean, is clean, including non-Jews. Peter, like Cornelius did not receive this information from Jesus or from any text he read, but was given this instruction from God, himself.

We don’t know much about what other prophets such as Abagus, or Phillips daughters, but the early Christians such as Perpetua, in her diary report such personal revelations to individuals continued even in her day (approx 200 a.d.) in evidence of the promise in Acts 2:17 that “And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out My Spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams.”

This pattern is, (as far as I am able to tell), a pattern that holds true for each of us in all ages of time.
All have the privilege of approaching God and have faith that they will be or can learn to be led by the spirit.

This pattern was not simply Christian, but it was Jewish as well. For example, multiple Dead Sea Scroll documents (1QS, 4Q255, 5Q11 Col 4) relate this principle, saying: “Like purifying waters, He shall sprinkle each with a spirit of truth, effectual against all the abominations of lying and sullying by an unclean spirit. Thereby He shall give the upright insight into the knowledge of the Most High and the wisdom of the angels, making wise those following the perfect way. “

IF, someone claims to be guided by the spirit, then they will, by definition, have manifestations of that spirit in their lives.
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Thank you. What I'm wondering about is, do people think that apart from the Bible, do people think that God has revealed knowledge to others after that, not only for them personally, but for all people? That might seem false almost by definition, but it seems to me to be implied for example in the idea of councils as doctrinal authorities, or in church tradition having the same authority as the scriptures, or even more.
 
I think that I need to clarify my question. Do you think that church tradition, councils or some other sources have been inspired by God to teach people things that they need to know from God, that they can't learn from reading the Bible?
 
Just in general: People who do not respectable relay in dependency on a teacher of a lineage, if taking on a certain religion/bond (useful or not) tend to add and remove what ever, so that all fit's fine to their own ideas and what ever defilement desires.

It's total useless if "disciples" gather and try to batch their stuff under others flag.

It's of course natural that those hardly ever find re-legion. A wheel, or say interfate.

A wise seeks out for Hans, not for Hänschen.

On the specific tradition: it's certain that it has no original body, nor ways of maintaining such given, or long times lost.

But to find out yourself, one would need to leave common life and try to find the recluse ways of the tradition, or one of the already countless "updates".
 
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