The Realization Behind the Resurrection

[otherbrother]

Jesus is "the resurrection of the soul into oneness with Spirit – the soul's ascension from delusory confinement of body consciousness into its native immortality and everlasting freedom

Yes, that perspective is where I think I’m coming from here in this thread. Resurrection as portrayed in the Bible seems like a special, dramatic discrete turning point from the perspective of flesh, from a materially manifested self that takes physical reality to be more real or significant than it actually is. Hence, a feeling of being rescued from attachment to corruptible physical existence, a victory over death. But to me this is through flesh’s eyes, NOT through one’s spirit’s eyes or from Spirit’s eyes. Through spirit/Spirit’s eyes “resurrection” is more like realization of the True base of our being. More of an internal shift than a dramatic external event, although the latter might symbolize the potential for internal spiritual alignment. My emphasis is on internalizing the pattern and on spiritual empowerment of people to do so.
I see Jesus as a model for us to activate our own internal potential to recognize and utilize our spirits, whether it is actually a separate entity or a special aspect of overall self, a spiritual aspect rather than an “other.” Perhaps it is only an other as long as we insist on being other than it (connected, spiritual, one). But relating to it as an other works for me, and is but an individualized version of God, like God’s fingers.

 

[wil]

Also lost all sense of time far into a 25 mile run.

I would say moments of what I refer to as bliss...when you get in a lane and just be.

As a kid my parents had a pool...swimming under water was a thing...challenges with friends who could do the most laps. I got to a place of occasionally where I didn't care...I could swim forever. I had to consciously stop...I would wait a lap past my friends and then rise for air. Was it bliss or oxygen deprivation and risking passing out...idk. much like that point in running where you pass the pain, you pass where your muscles become like jelly and suddenly you are just running near effortlessly...I hear they are saying runners high is actual high...not endorphins but natural endocannabanoids entering the brain.

The question is then are these experiences unnatural or unnaturally uncommon but in reality our reality is unnatural?

 

[QuietPeace]

I think the Resurrection was allegorical to the truism behind eternal life itself. We are ,as some say,spiritual beings having a human experience.

We,as in the Abrahamic Christian doctrine, as is all of creation and created, both of and from God.
And as such,we cannot truly end or die.

Immanuel, "God with us" , is Jesus, Resurrected so to prove this truth.

And ,in my opinion, the Shroud of Turin that initially wrapped his body after he was laid to rest in the tomb,is the literal evidence of this immortality. And is in and of itself the encapsulation of His true, actual, Gospel.

https://youtube.com/results?sp=mAEA&search_query=proof+radiation+photon+energy+image+shroud+turin

 

[Thomas]

But to me this is through flesh’s eyes, NOT through one’s spirit’s eyes or from Spirit’s eyes. Through spirit/Spirit’s eyes “resurrection” is more like realization of the True base of our being.

For me, the 'base' or 'ground' of being is that which is beyond being, but contains all being within Itself.

As soon as one says 'being', one is talking of conditional states.

I would say this being is that of a living soul – not just spirit, nor just body, but both – but as long as we treat the dialogue in terms of spirit and body as distinct and separate, then the significance of resurrection, is missed.

Resurrection for me is not merely a spiritual realisation, nor even the victory over death, those are conditional degrees of insight, or intuition, or being, rather, resurrection is that, and over and above that, a bodily realisation.

All in all.