Dreaming the future?

Hi, I googles "my dreams tell the future" and fonud this forum, so, I've had prophetic dreams at seemingly random times occasionally since the of about 5 or 6.

I seem most likely to have a prophetic dream when im depressed

Lately i've been dreaming dark and cryptic things, like 2 shooting stars, and me saying "may god help us all" for example

and a few months ago, i dreamt of two burning houses, and the next day on the news there are 2 seperate stories about peoples burned bodies being found, stuff like that

and another dream about a year ago, where i got strangled by an inbvisible force, 2 nights later someone strangled me, id never had a dream of being strangled and id never been strangled before, so, that was nice

im missing out lots of detail in these dreams because im tired and stuff.. but hopefully it makes sense...

lately ive become rather paranoid of things, certainly the world seems a much darker place after recent world events, maybe its to do with that
 
Hello, Aylward, and welcome to CR:) . Glad you posted on this thread, or I might not have seen it for a while.

Yes, oh yes--it happens to me all the time. It fascinates me and frightens me all at once, and when I have a disturbing dream, I am torn about whether I should say something--I think I don't because I don't know at the time if it is (I almost hate to use the word) "psychic" or not. When I have these dreams, they are not usually directly associated with my personal life and daily happenings, although I have had them about events in a family member's future. But the ones that have nothing to do with anyone I know are the ones that, well, frankly frighten me when they actually happen, maybe because after they happen, I wonder if I might have prevented them if I had realized. But then, who would take me seriously, and what would happen to my life after I was right (or wrong) a couple of times? It is great to be able to speak in a forum about it, to say it with a screen name and have input from others with similar experiences.

I don't consider myself a psychic at all, and really haven't taken the time to study the subject much. I think I may have spent years being afraid to study it--but it is probably time to start investigating a little more.

I almost wonder if this "sensitivity" runs in families, because my mother experienced these kinds of dreams often. The most vivid was two planes colliding in mid-air. Maybe I remember it because she told me she had a strange, upsetting dream the night before, and later that day, there was a live radio report about the event she had described. I am not hypothesizing that this phenomenom is genetic, necessarily, but maybe has more to do with spiritual environment. I would be interested in hearing what others think about this, as well.

Big step for me to say anything at all, but it is time.:)

InPeace,
InLove
 
Hi, I've been away for a few days, thats why I havent replied.

I think the thing we have in common is our value for truth.

We believe that anything is possible and try to keep a completely open mind.

I think this opens us up to something closer to our true potential.

However, whilst my dreams/little visions have never harmed or threatened me, to the contrary even quite disturbing things are presented in a peaceful way, but, I've had one supposed psychic tell me I'm going to die soon.

My dreams often relate to death, when I have them, which is kind of worrying.

I worry about where the dreams come from. Maybe I should concentrate on definite reality instead. - Because I don't dream all the time, but I do always wake up to the same crap.

I'm mostly a peaceful person, but lately I've been extremely angry with the world and a lot of the people in it. I've had enough of the wicked bastards that comprise about 40% of the population... why is the minority so hard to avoid?! It's like wherever you go theres a gang of the little bastards just waiting to trip you somehow.. It's crap, crap crap crap..

Anyway.. Maybe this is relevent, when I tend to think about the Judeo-Christian loving God, I dont seem to have these dreams, whether this is a pointer to the fallacy of belief in God, or the inherent power of his name i have no idea at all.

I can trust nothing but myself I guess.

I think I should refuse to react to my dreams, and just view them with interest instead of fear or possible purpose.

The universe tells me very little, and I think as a result I should give very little.


The first dream I had that I considered a premonition was when I was about 4, The night before a school day I dreamt of a map, and the next day in class, the first thing I saw was this map, not exactly as it was in the dream, but similar enough to spark the memory of the dream, of course s ince then Ive had much more convincing dreams.

The most impossible of which was being randomly strangled, which was incidentally a terrifying dream, there was a mirror in it, and for the next 2 days I was afraid to look in mirrors, until after I was strangled, when I looked in the mirror and saw my eyes bloodshot and little capillaries burst, just like in the dream where my eyes were all bloody... awesome.
 
Hello, Aylward. Welcome to CR. I hope you enjoy your stay as I have.

If you don't mind me butting in, I have dreams to. Most people do. I think the difference is the connection we have with spirituality. The spiritual connection you have with yourself, the people around you, with God, with the devil (negative-positive energy, whatever you call it), etc. Mostly what you believe, but not necessarily. Sometimes these kinds of things (like the dreams) will encourage you to come to some spiritual basis in which you can grow and learn how to use that - if you choose to. Or you can largely ignore it and over time have no spiritual awareness at all.
Aylward said:
I think the thing we have in common is our value for truth.

We believe that anything is possible and try to keep a completely open mind.

I think this opens us up to something closer to our true potential.
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Don't take for granted that you do have an 'inside connection' to the 'outside'.

... My dreams often relate to death, when I have them, which is kind of worrying.
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Your dreams can very well be channeled by what you are spiritually connected to.


...I think I should refuse to react to my dreams, and just view them with interest instead of fear or possible purpose.
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But you have to be true to yourself. If you are a person of purpose then you can't shut that down because you have dreams; you'll lose yourself and still have the dreams. You should be more afraid of losing the essence of you.

The universe tells me very little, and I think as a result I should give very little.
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If you are having these dreams, the universe is telling you quite a bit.


The most impossible of which was being randomly strangled, which was incidentally a terrifying dream, there was a mirror in it, and for the next 2 days I was afraid to look in mirrors, until after I was strangled, when I looked in the mirror and saw my eyes bloodshot and little capillaries burst, just like in the dream where my eyes were all bloody... awesome.
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Indeed, it is awesome. Your dreams are quite profound, eh? Sounds like you know what is going to happen before it does. Change your connection.
 
Hey Brian.. did you ever think that you may be dreaming someone elses life.. and maybe that person is dreaming yours? Stuff like that trips me out.
 
I have had many many experiences which suggest to me some kind of future-seeing is at work. Unfortunately all the dreams I have felt to have a premonitionary air to them have come to nothing. But those that I have had while fully awake, lucid and sober :)p) are another matter entirely. It can be a place, and object, a song or simply a word that stimulates me to feel what I would describe as a reverse deja-vu, (ie I get the sense something will happen as against the sense that this has happened before.) These tend to represent pivotal events in my life and have happened sometime a decade preceeding thier fruition.
People have tended to suggest here on this thread that premonition can give you the opportunity to change the course of events.......I am however more sceptical. I am more swayed to the camp that believes our perception of time to be an illusion with us experincing it in a linear way for any number of practical reasons. Thats not to say I wouldnt like to have the opportunity to go back and change some things though.
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Journaling is one of the best helps for dreams. Getting up in the morning and writing the dream starts all the memories flowing out, all the details and parts you didn't remember at first.

Putting a date to each dream and any interpretation you feel about it is valuable as well.

Leave space between each dream and each interpretation for future comments.

You can read the dream books, and they have some great interpretations but they aren't yours and often generalities (very popular/common is that everything everyone in the dream is you, differing parts of your psyche establishing a pecking order...sorting out a problem...like watching the devil and angel on a cartoon characters shoulder accept they are played out in chase scenes and crazy dream sequences)

Then go back to your dream journal every few months and read through them. Now you'll be able to identify elements of premonitions, elements of internal thought struggles that have played out, reoccurring themes...and some that simply appear to be entertainment. Leave more notes and dates in the spaces around the dream.

namaste, and sweet dreams,
 


I think inspiration can occur in dreams as you all say, so yes keep a pen and paper by your bed. If we think or meditate on a given notion, it is often resolved when we sleep. Some artists and songwriters say that lyrics or missing lines of, would just come to them in the morning. I don’t know as concerns dreaming the future, but dreams have a way of bypassing causality! Even drug induced hallucinations can show you stuff – in much the same way as dreams. Visions are similar in most peoples minds, yet here I would draw a line [depending on the type of vision] as visions are more of a ‘‘meeting’ ‘set in Ether’’.



On a side note; I wonder if there is the knowledge of the age floating around out there – so to say, inventions and inspirations generally are just waiting to be ‘picked up’, kinda like a place of all-knowledge, yet we may only ‘tune into’ that which is relative to our age and the moment. So are inventors, writers, theorists and prophets, simply people who are tuned to this!

Z
 
Even drug induced hallucinations can show you stuff – in much the same way as dreams. Visions are similar in most peoples minds, yet here I would draw a line [depending on the type of vision] as visions are more of a ‘‘meeting’ ‘set in Ether’’.

On a side note; I wonder if there is the knowledge of the age floating around out there – so to say, inventions and inspirations generally are just waiting to be ‘picked up’, kinda like a place of all-knowledge, yet we may only ‘tune into’ that which is relative to our age and the moment. So are inventors, writers, theorists and prophets, simply people who are tuned to this!
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Two great topics that demand threads of their own Z!

1. Hallucinegenics are now called entheogenics! God inducing drugs.

2. Inventors...tuning in is the reason for simultaneuos inventions by two inventors w/o knowing about each other! Their brain is on the same frequency and they are working together w/o knowing it. And yes we can tune into all knowledge...ask any question prior to sleep..allow yourself to access the source!

3. Meetings in the ethers...applies somewhat to both of the above, yet also an area where we go to in prayer...that zone of manifestation...faith of a mustard seed...we call it spirit, scientists call it ethers...

I'll wait for the new topics to come up...if they don't I guess I'll start em...

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namaste,
 
Wil, hi



I have touched upon these notions e.g. in ‘the man or the vision’ thread, not forgetting the ghost universe thread, and I have written a thread called ‘painting masterpeices in the air’, [concerning the flow of new knowledge and inspiration] but not posted it yet. I am still working on a more extreme philosophy including a 'quantum thought' model. If you want to do a thread then by all means do so – as I find info I have been searching for often just comes to me when answering posts! Perhaps we are all operating in the spirit or Ether eh!



Entheogenics – god inducing drugs! Did you invent that word – I like it, :D as a druid I have certainly used them to bring forth the gods and spirits – tools of the trade y’know, but that was when I was much younger and after I had already been granted visions, I don’t need to now.

I dare not do a thread on drugs and religous experience – can you image that here! :eek: :p People seam to think that there is a difference! ;)

Z
 
There is a comparatively new field of science caled "zero point field" that is a child of quantum mechanics and reintroduces the hypothisis of the existence of some kind of ether. In this theory the ether is described as some kind of universe wide matrix that is governed by quantum law. It offers us a credible way of using scientific method to test a number of the issues dealt with in this thread and has accumualted some very startling 'remote viewing' results in a series of rigerously monitored experiments. The theory offers a medium which makes premonition, simultaneous 'eureka !' moments and many other related subjects not only possible but likely. The real questions are is this matrix the body or essence of what we call God? Is it sentient in its own right and working to a plan?
Since the subject has been raised are the matrix like bands of flourescence seen while under the influence of an hallucinogen this matrix made visible?
 
Tao Equus, hello!



Sounds fascinating! I don’t know about the science side of this, as you say it is a new field. Thing is that as soon as we include terms like ‘god’ into the equation, then we have to say that all things are of god, as I would say that the quantum mind would be a part of all of our minds and span existence like a net of thought. I would presume that this universal thought – if you will, has a base nature that belongs to infinity and mirrors the shape of universal nature. In a way, I wonder if we could think of everything as thought/Ether, as there is no line dividing – thought and its forms, like points on paper. This thought or spirit/Ether would have the zero nature [infinity] and the shaping of the points being its multiple nature [mindscape X actualisation of the thought {the act becomes real}]. So perhaps thought is not just in our minds but spanning the entirety of existence, perhaps there is a synchronicity, where we react to stimuli in the Ether! Remote viewing could be more like visualizing in the universal mind instead of our own. I think a lot of psychic phenomena can be explained [if at all] by considering it so that we may have access to this universal mind – indeed that our minds are simply the focusing of this mind around an epicentre [point on the paper] - Thus all we are is a vortex in the winds of eternity! [and the will that concentrates the vortex].

nice to meet :)

Z
 
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Tao Equus, hello!



Sounds fascinating! I don’t know about the science side of this, as you say it is a new field. Thing is that as soon as we include terms like ‘god’ into the equation, then we have to say that all things are of god, as I would say that the quantum mind would be a part of all of our minds and span existence like a net of thought. I would presume that this universal thought – if you will, has a base nature that belongs to infinity and mirrors the shape of universal nature. In a way, I wonder if we could think of everything as thought/Ether, as there is no line dividing – thought and its forms, like points on paper. This thought or spirit/Ether would have the zero nature [infinity] and the shaping of the points being its multiple nature [mindscape X actualisation of the thought {the act becomes real}]. So perhaps thought is not just in our minds but spanning the entirety of existence, perhaps there is a synchronicity, where we react to stimuli in the Ether! Remote viewing could be more like visualizing in the universal mind instead of our own. I think a lot of psychic phenomena can be explained [if at all] by considering it so that we may have access to this universal mind – indeed that our minds are simply the focusing of this mind around an epicentre [point on the paper] - Thus all we are is a vortex in the winds of eternity! [and the will that concentrates the vortex].

nice to meet :)

Z
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Thank you Z !!! And its a pleasure to meet you too :)

I have often pondered myself on these ideas in a way very similair to your own. Liken this Vortex to a sandstorm and the first single grain can be Like Christ, Bhudda or Mohamad that go on to build thier own massive dune of belief.
The past 24 hrs I have thought almost non stop about the topic raised in this thread. Not new thoughts to me I must say. But essentialy there are so many clear signals that premonition exists. ( like the collage picture made by my son a few hrs before the planes struck on 9/11 which shows 2 towers engulfed in dust and smoke, with red tissue like blood below them....and a green feather, symbolic I feel of the islamice extremists who did this.) And if premonition is real Time is beyond doubt an illusion. So I would love to know if anyone has had a premonition, got to the subsequent deja vu moment and effected change from the original vison through force of will. Anyone???
 
Premonition… hmm not my thing, I just read ‘the book with no name’ [kinda like the memory of universal mind and all-knowledge {perhaps we are parallels in this!}]. I would not agree that you could effect change from the original vision, although I can see how you came to this conclusion! My reasoning is that the original vision is of all events, thus one cannot change it, as it is history and future history. Then there is a causality paradox; one cannot affect a cause on that which is already has its form [or is already there]. In order to change one thing, you would have to change everything, as all things are the form of the one and the multiple – everything is connected to everything else. But you obviously visualise the future history within the book very well, perhaps it knows that thus your interactions with the future are within its history! :D ;) :cool:

btw, i often have de ja vous, specially visual when awaking from a dream. :)

respect

Z
 
. I would not agree that you could effect change from the original vision, although I can see how you came to this conclusion! My reasoning is that the original vision is of all events, thus one cannot change it, as it is history and future history.

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I actualy agree with you. without invoking parallel dimensions i belive it would not be possible to change the course of future events any more so than to change history. I was more refering to some of the earlier posts that suggest a dream premonition can be an opportunity to fix an undesired outcome before it happens and wondered if anyone believed they had done this.:D
 
I see, yes that makes sense, although there must be some loopholes in causality – I don’t think it is all set in stone - so to say! ;) I wish I could see coming events sometimes, but then again I do see things yet when they become real, they have a different form but are of the same substance - if you will. Perhaps this is how to beet causality i.e. via the vehicle of the metaphor. The trouble is that the thing which appears to be going to happen still does, as fate has a way of creeping up on us, and catching us unawares. :rolleyes: :)

Z
 
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I see, yes that makes sense, although there must be some loopholes in causality – I don’t think it is all set in stone - so to say! ;) I wish I could see coming events sometimes, but then again I do see things yet when they become real, they have a different form but are of the same substance - if you will. Perhaps this is how to beet causality i.e. via the vehicle of the metaphor. The trouble is that the thing which appears to be going to happen still does, as fate has a way of creeping up on us, and catching us unawares. :rolleyes: :)

Z
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Thought long and hard on this subject some years ago and came to the conclusion ,(or cop-out?), that evrything is indeed set in stone. This was
based entirely on my own extremely vivid, (waking), premonitions and current theories on the nature of time. Its as you say, no matter what I did to avoid an outcome it found a way of creeping up on me and catching me unawares.
I think our linear perception of time and our need to feel like we are in control of our destinies combine to create the illusion of free will. Our day to day physical reality enforces this. But in the bigger picture we were always going to make the choices we made. Some might say this is an opt out from my own responsibilities in life. Thats not the case because I am aware I might be wrong and so strive to do my best in every area of life. Its just all the evidence I could find led me there.
 
Tao equus hi



Yep I come to that conclusion too! The trouble is that, I also believe that the spirit and the meaning of ‘freedom’ are intertwined i.e. part of each other. Now let us give it another loop, to see if we can get some resolution on the matter:



History has to be created/lived out on a linear plane, before [!] the ‘eye of infinity’ can know it – so to say. Thus we have to make the decisions and perform the actions that combine to literally make history. Time can do what it want’s, yet history is linear!



Perhaps it is so that:

Just as we cannot affect the future – due to causality, it is equally so that what we do to make history cannot also be changed! Thus the freedom to create as we go [if you will], is ours! If any of that makes sense?

Z
 
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