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mee
Guest
true , the great tribulation has not started yet ,but people cannot say that they have not been warned about it .Bandit said:
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truthseeker
Guest
I assume that things have never been much different from Noah's day. I think that we are more aware of over population and crime and all that because communication has brought the world closer together. Strange though, if the world must unite we could be learning of other nations, religions, and cultures on a positive level and then things wouldn't appear to be so bad. But I guess that isn't interesting news, now is it? What better way is there to get the heart pumping but by controversy? Nothing keeps me on my toes like thinking that my next door neighbor could kill his entire family when we really thought he was a nice guy. Though these things could save our lives by knowing, the media is incredibly distasteful. Wickedness and Evil are best served after a Distrust appetizer. Maybe we can use the Blood of Christ to wash it all down.
lunamoth
Episcopalian
Hi truthseeker, I think we are on about the same wavelength here. Good to see you around again (seems like you havn't been here lately, or perhaps I've just missed your posts!)
lunamoth
lunamoth
amen truthseeker...
Pray unceasingly....doen't seem like an order...I think that is what we do.
After all God knows what you are thinking before you think it...and is constantly saying yes to your desires (de sire...of the father...of God). So the question is...what are you praying for...what is God hearing 24/7 from you?
is it doom and gloom or heaven and bliss? Your choice, it will be done.
are their more thoughts of what my kids will get into then thoughts of them being the future of peace in our world?
more thoughts of enemies and gossip and whatever others are doing wrong than blessing your family and our planet?
hmmmm.....
God Bless us Everyone, God Bless the Whole Planet, no exceptions.
Sometimes I wonder...you know the straw that broke the camel's back...one more straw....what if it also goes the other way around, what if the world is waiting for one more person to be compassionate, one more to love their neighbor, one more to raise themselves in concsciousness... What if I am the camel...what if the world were waiting for me to be nice, not gossip, not judge....hmmmm
namaste,
seems like from the beginning, every age has had its reason to think...This is the end, the signs are here.
Pray unceasingly....doen't seem like an order...I think that is what we do.
After all God knows what you are thinking before you think it...and is constantly saying yes to your desires (de sire...of the father...of God). So the question is...what are you praying for...what is God hearing 24/7 from you?
is it doom and gloom or heaven and bliss? Your choice, it will be done.
are their more thoughts of what my kids will get into then thoughts of them being the future of peace in our world?
more thoughts of enemies and gossip and whatever others are doing wrong than blessing your family and our planet?
hmmmm.....
God Bless us Everyone, God Bless the Whole Planet, no exceptions.
Sometimes I wonder...you know the straw that broke the camel's back...one more straw....what if it also goes the other way around, what if the world is waiting for one more person to be compassionate, one more to love their neighbor, one more to raise themselves in concsciousness... What if I am the camel...what if the world were waiting for me to be nice, not gossip, not judge....hmmmm
namaste,
B
Bandit
Guest
wil said:
if we do not love God with our whole heart & love our neighbor as ourselves, then we have something to fear & that may be because we fail to fear is why the world gets so out of joint.
some have tried to tell me this is heaven & all is good...i would certainly have to disagree there.
i cant say every age has a reason to think this is the end. no one knows that. there could not be an end without Jesus coming in the middle.
What I would say is when Paul wrote about it, it was his enhusiasm & love for Christ & the body of Christ is what made Him feel & write like he did.
anyone not happy about the return of Jesus, would display something missing in their boat. IMO
I have also heard let there be peace on earth for years. so why are we singing that every sunday? is it because we have hope?
we pray & keep faith in God because we know He will deliver us from all evil & temptation for His own glory.
i have also heard the christ conscious religion, while close, it is not the same message as Christ dying for the sins of the world & without the blood of Jesus no one could be saved from eternal death...that is just the way it is.
i see the end as the begining of eternal life, so i dont really know or care how & when but i do have faith that through all tribulations & no matter how bad the world may get, the God of Noah will not fail & He will deliver those who love Him & those who keep His commandments to the end.
Jesus said the kingdom of heaven was within, look neither low or high, here nor there... and it was said we are in the midst of God, in Him we live and breathe and have our being...
This is it, Heaven or Hell, you manifest your desires by what you percieve. The farmer is smiling for the rain while the golfer is cursing... either could look at it differently, love that free will we've been given, the choice to see the good of the world, silver linings or grey clouds.
I go to used book stores and pick up old spiritual/religious books, the doomsayers, and literal translators have always had their examples of the floods/storms/wars/decadence that have 'proved' that the end is nigh...repent now...or your going to hell, God Bless....
Guess God must have quite a sense of humor to decide we need to say exactly these words or that or we'll not get the prize. Or is 'He' so insecure that he needs constant praise and witholds favors. Somehow I don't think so... doesn't look like unconditional love and forgiveness to me.
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truthseeker
Guest
I concur. I've said somewhere before that God doesn't need our praises and love and undivided attention to be who He is. He doesn't need us to fear Him either - man needs fear of other men to be more than the next man. Whether we believe He exists or not, He still remains. Insecurity and Security is a power trip among men, and if we believe God is like that, He ceases to be an Almighty being. Thinking like that only serves to bring God to the level of man so that we can try to relate. No man can attempt to be as powerful as God unless we attempt to serve the fellow man but then that puts us on the level of every other man - which puts us back at square one. To revere God, to respect God, to love God not as we love ourselves but as to let one another be - isn't that kind of what Jesus talks about? Didn't the people of Ur fear their gods? Isn't the God of Abraham a different God?
I've heard that so often the old testament God v. the New Testament God...and then the Elohem v. Yahweh debate... I think it is all the same God (much as all the Hindu Gods are Krishna...same God) (sidebar...best explanation by a Hindu Priest "To my mother I am a son, to my son I am Father, to my Niece Uncle, and to my Brother, Brother....but it is all me...just different perspectives. The Hindu's who by the way have Jesus as a great guru as well...after all...they sent the wisemen...and maybe he went back to visit in his teens and twenties when he went off to find himself..)
Sorry back on track....but the sidebar is the explanation. Same God...just a different perspective. During Abraham's time we had no belief in control of our lives, we were at the whims of nature and God, wrath and gifts explained our universe. Jesus broke that cycle, told us it was up to us to have the faith, that the power was within. But our ego (Easing God Out) remains strong, hence we tend to forget what Jesus told us 2000 years ago...because it doesn't feed the ego. But look at Orvillie and Wilbur, tinkering in a bicycle shop 100 years ago...from a glider we go to the moon and back, fly around with less effort or thought than Joseph had heading to the census... Why because invention, notoriety, feeds the ego...could you imagine if we used the same effort (or even a mustard seeds worth) on our development of flight spiritually??
namaste,
B
Bandit
Guest
wil said:
i think you are way off on this. the scripture does indeed say to REPENT & it says with Godly sorrow. it is not just about SAYING exact words, more like living in obedience, watching & praying. it also says the blood of Jesus through faith.
sounds like you are trying to mix different religions with the bible?
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truthseeker
Guest
lunamoth said:
Hey Luna!