rdwillia
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Hello Vaj,
Thank you for explaining so clearly what I struggle to make barely intellegeble. Someone's karma would have to be really bad to not understand that clarity.
Hello Phyllis,
This is very true. In my case some very special circumstances came together to allow me to complete both of them in one day. Especially in seeing that in some cases an empowerment can last several days ending with another multi-day retreat. This was an all day event for me.
However, the Vajrasattva empowerment, being a purification practice, blends really nicely with the Bodhisattva vows. And that way, if you blow one of the secondary downfalls you know how to purify your non-virtuous actions.
The other reason the Bodhisattva vows were granted was that several of us are from out of town and don't get a chance to make it to the center very often. The resident teacher took pity on us out-of-towners and granted us the vows.
As for everything else, Vajradhara sufficiently captured anything I would have said, and more.
Thank you both!![Smile :) :)](data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7)
Vajradhara said:i, too, am a student and am by no means a teacher! if anything i say makes sense to you, it is due to your own good karma ripening!
Thank you for explaining so clearly what I struggle to make barely intellegeble. Someone's karma would have to be really bad to not understand that clarity.
Hello Phyllis,
Phyllis Sidhe_Uaine said:question #3: I believe that, from what I've read between the two of you, one can have the "empowerment" without the Vow of Bodhisattva, but can the reverse be true; i.e. you can take the Vow of Bodhisattva without going through the "empowerment"?
Vajradhara said:well... in short, yes, though it isn't often the situation since this process of formally taking the Bodhisattva Vow is, in and of itself, an empowerment. not of the same sort as one of the Tantric empowerments, to be sure, but an empowerment nonetheless.
This is very true. In my case some very special circumstances came together to allow me to complete both of them in one day. Especially in seeing that in some cases an empowerment can last several days ending with another multi-day retreat. This was an all day event for me.
However, the Vajrasattva empowerment, being a purification practice, blends really nicely with the Bodhisattva vows. And that way, if you blow one of the secondary downfalls you know how to purify your non-virtuous actions.
As for everything else, Vajradhara sufficiently captured anything I would have said, and more.
Thank you both!