Nogodnomasters
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Vajradhara said:Namaste,
fair enough...
here are several other explanations for the material you have posted.
1. you've made a mistake in interpetation of the texts.
2. you've made a mistake in translation of the texts.
3. you've made a mistake in the process of transferring your knowledge to paper.
4. the texts are absolutely what they claim to be.
5. the texts aren't absolutely what they claim to be and are, instead, metaphor.
6. the astrological conclusions you've come to may be incorrect.
7. whomever determined what the constallations mean may be incorrect.
ad infinitium.
as i said... these are the things that immediately come to my mind, though i am sure that we could have a rational, logical discussion once your book has been published. until that time i'm afraid that all we can do is comment upon the assertions that you've set forth in your postings related to the subject at hand.
as far as i can ascertain, the "facts" you've provided about your theory are the story of Joseph which you've related. however, you make several claims in there that could be correct or incorrect... i realize that you want us to take your word for this, however that will be difficult to do, at least on this forum, without any presented evidence. an interpetation of a story from a (to me, metaphorical) text do not constitute evidence, sorry to say.
as it stands today... i have little reason to believe anything astrologically related.. not least of which because we (Buddhists) are specifically instructed not to engage in this practice because we are not to profit from peoples superstitions. moreover, the astrological assignments that are given in the west for things do not correspond with how things are understood in the east.
or more information on this, you can read the I ching "Book of Change" which details this quite extensively. there are other purposes for the book, however, we shall have to leave that discussion for another time and place.
You really didn't say anything specific and just made general comments.
As far as Translations- I use a Hebrew Lexicon. I use the exact Hebrew translation as pure as I can.
Interpretation of texts? That is what the whole thing is about.
Mistake in Tranferring my knowledge to paper? This is silly. This would account for a copiest error, not an entire theory.
The texts may be what they claim to be. Which is what? The texts make no real claim. They are an interpretation. If what has happened in the text is true, that is not a problem with them also being astrological.
The texts can be a metaphor too. This has nothing to do with their astrological significance. I would claim they are historical fiction, which is the opinion of ledaing researchers.
My astrological conclusions may be incorrect... in general or a specific detail? There are some fine points I can concede on and have the overall theroy still stand.
Who determined what they mean may be incorrect??? Again I do not understand. Various peoples made different interpretations of the stars. They are all not the same. There is no "correct" or incorrect" just similarities of what Ptomey claimed they were and what the Arabs and Hebrews named the stars as compared to the Bible stories and names.