Future Memory

Quahom1 said:
I can tell you there Cyberpi buddy, we do have a clock inside our minds. After 27 years of service requiring absolute timeliness, regardless of having an alarm or not, we can hone our internal clocks to be alarms for us.
I doubt it. There are too many seamen who have proven you wrong. As you may have learned measuring time was paramount to naval navigation. Certainly doing things in repetition trains the mind and body... thats not what I'm talking about. Try counting 60 seconds and compare it with a clock. Even a musician will find it difficult to keep the same beat without a reference. Then try several hours worth and see if you can match the clock by even one minute.
 
cyberpi said:
I doubt it. There are too many seamen who have proven you wrong. As you may have learned measuring time was paramount to naval navigation. Certainly doing things in repetition trains the mind and body... thats not what I'm talking about. Try counting 60 seconds and compare it with a clock. Even a musician will find it difficult to keep the same beat without a reference. Then try several hours worth and see if you can match the clock by even one minute.

I understand. Kind of like a watched pot never boils...
 
I think there is a difference between having an alarm clock in your mind and a stop watch. The biggest being that you are awake..conscious. Having access to your unconscious clock when you are conscious is a feat few have, probably a skill which can be developed and honed but one that would take much more work than utilizing the 'alarm clock'

I used to think I needed to tell myself what time it was when I laid my head down, and what time I wanted to get up. Now I just go to bed and as I drift off think of the things I want to do in the morning, and when I want to be where. My inner clock, knows when I went to bed, and calculates the time needed to do the chores I've assigned myself in the morning, adds the commuting time and subtracts it from my requested arrival time all without any 'effort' on my part.

This works when I go to bed anytime has been utilized at all hours and at times when I was only going to have two hours of sleep (after 20 hour days) and for days in a row of limited sleep, always waking up refreshed.

Your internal alarm clock also knows your body and sleep rhythms and if you are smart enough to get up when it wakes you up you are at your peak, there is no snooze alarm for me, and if I take another 10 minutes or even an hour...I am groggy, slow and not ready for the day...

trust yourself, or the access you have I think this clock is not really ours, we are all tapping into the same clock.
 
I said:
I've always gone through life with a sense of future - of Fate.

Trouble is, it's always been difficult trying to work out the details.

I figured I was going to be rich and successful in media (not newspapers - media formats) and it all seems to be happening - though nothing like I'd have expected.

Oftentimes I'll see a vision of something but not comprehend it. I've seen myself working with computers and the internet long before I ever touched them, though didn't understand what I was seeing at the time.

A more recent example is that I used to try and work out where I'd live.

When I was a child, I remember writing my name backwards - Nairb.

I looked at it, and for some reason changing the 'b' to a 'n' - Nairn - seemed important. I looked it up and found there was a real place in Scotland called Nairn, by the Highlands. I figured I was suppose to go there someday.

Fast forward a few decades...

Living in the inner city of Hull wasn't much fun for my girlfriend, who longed for countryside. She's from the Isle of Man, but housing is so expensive that moving there couldn't be an option. Scotland seemed a good compromise.

It was a choice between renting in Stirling, or renting in Inverness.

Inverness seemed to call, but felt too much like a jump. Stirling was more practical - nice and central, and we could explore most of Scotland from there, to see if we could find the "right " area to move to.

So we rented near Stirling and drove everywhere except the far south-east and far north-west.

When we finally drive up towards Inverness I got a real buzz - something special.

After exploring all of Scotland, there were only two areas we decided we wanted to live - either on the Black Isle, north of Scotland, or near the Moray Firth, between Inverness and Nairn.

We went house hunting, and eventually found the best property in our price range. It had views over the water to the mountains of the Highlands.

It was in Nairn.

I'm still trying to peice together what my future holds. I already think I have an idea of key moments in my future, but have no idea how the road travels to them. I think that's part of the fun in life.

Even still, it's funny how I often feel a sense of future memory, but I'm not the only one - whether it's going places, or meeting people who seem somehow familiar.

Question is, how many people at CR feel that they can sometimes, perhaps without understanding it, access future memory?

This reminds me of the Matrix, when Morphius asks Neo if he believes in fate. Neo said no because he didn't like the idea of not being in control of his own life.

Fate, in turn, is that exactly. Fate is the determination of an outcome in the future of a present or past situation/action. There is no way to bend fate for it is what it is. That is the problem with time travel (won’t delve off into that too much). I don’t believe in fate either. As a Christian I believe we have the right to chose how end becomes and how we become at the end.

Although I have had a few dreams that could have predicted the future I believe that they are things that may be instead of things that will be, as Edunezur Scrooge said.
 
Paul James said:
This reminds me of the Matrix, when Morphius asks Neo if he believes in fate. Neo said no because he didn't like the idea of not being in control of his own life.

Fate, in turn, is that exactly. Fate is the determination of an outcome in the future of a present or past situation/action. There is no way to bend fate for it is what it is. That is the problem with time travel (won’t delve off into that too much). I don’t believe in fate either. As a Christian I believe we have the right to chose how end becomes and how we become at the end.

Although I have had a few dreams that could have predicted the future I believe that they are things that may be instead of things that will be, as Edunezur Scrooge said.

Hello Paul James,

So you don't believe in fate.... My dictionary defines Fate as "The supposed force, principle, or power that predetermines events". From a Christian standpoint, it says no one comes to the Father unless the spirit of God draws him. It also says that it is God's will that all be saved. It also says you were choosen of God, and also Romans 8:29
For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Ephes. 1:5
Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

And one might even say, who can resist his will?

I just wonder how you as a Christian reconcile those writings, especially the predestinate one. This is not a trick question nor am I saying you are not correct nor that the writings are. I am only inviting you to elaborate on your understanding in hopes that we might all benefit if you are interested.

Love in Christ,
JM
 
But who's to say that wasn't his will? I love what was provided prior by bb or dauer me thinks...you leave the kids in the room and say whatever you do, don't touch the red button on the vcr...play with any toy you want, watch any video you want but don't touch the red button....

me thinks they were setup.
 
Hmm I read a study on sleep.. We do have internal clocks we are geared to sleep at night no matter how much we fight it... The study concluded that every hour after 10:00pm equals 4 hours as far as regeneration goes... I dont know how true it is but after being a night owl my whole life and needing a full 8 hours sleep then resorting to early bedtime I now can do great on 6 hours sleep without a yawn..
 
Hello Paul James,

So you don't believe in fate.... My dictionary defines Fate as "The supposed force, principle, or power that predetermines events". From a Christian standpoint, it says no one comes to the Father unless the spirit of God draws him. It also says that it is God's will that all be saved. It also says you were choosen of God, and also Romans 8:29
For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Ephes. 1:5
Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

And one might even say, who can resist his will?

I just wonder how you as a Christian reconcile those writings, especially the predestinate one. This is not a trick question nor am I saying you are not correct nor that the writings are. I am only inviting you to elaborate on your understanding in hopes that we might all benefit if you are interested.

Love in Christ,
JM

Hi JosephM,

We'll I guess what I mean is that we all have a right to chose whether or not we want to love and be with God or if we shall ignore him. Fortunatly I chose to know Him. I love Him and be with Him. But, our choice still remains. This is why I don't believe in fate. Besides, wil has a point: we ate the apple.
 
I wonder if time is universal and linear time is only one aspect of it. If we think in terms of all-time then the whole thing becomes a circle in that we have three tangible elements of time; potential, actual and historical time, with the future being not directly accessible. The way i am seeing it is that potentiality is made up of the future history of the event, a 'future memory' is the equivalent of recognising future events by their natures in the potential. In our minds we look at trends and what they will bring about or how they will be manifest, in doing this the mind may connect to the nature of the potential that is composed from the result of its event, the mind is at a point on the ring of time with the future and past besides it, in the minds mirror one may see the other side of the ring where the two are one and time is still.
 
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