who is the word

Where in the Bible does it say anything about 1914?
true knowledge is now abundant in the last days Daniel 12;4 but many are just like the religious leaders in Jesus day , they refuse to recognise fullfilled bible prophecy . if you are asking about the very significant date of 1914 maybe you are listening to religious leaders who refuse to recognize fullfilled prophecy. but for those who have not been misled by religious leaders . here is something to get their teeth into.

1914—A
Significant Year in Bible Prophecy

DECADES in advance, Bible students proclaimed that there would be significant developments in 1914. What were these, and what evidence points to 1914 as such an important year?
As recorded at Luke 21:24, Jesus said: "Jerusalem will be trampled on by the nations, until the appointed times of the nations ["the times of the Gentiles," King James Version] are fulfilled." Jerusalem had been the capital city of the Jewish nation—the seat of rulership of the line of kings from the house of King David. (Psalm 48:1, 2) However, these kings were unique among national leaders. They sat on "Jehovah’s throne" as representatives of God himself. (1 Chronicles 29:23) Jerusalem was thus a symbol of Jehovah’s rulership.
How and when, though, did God’s rulership begin to be "trampled on by the nations"? This happened in 607 B.C.E. when Jerusalem was conquered by the Babylonians. "Jehovah’s throne" became vacant, and the line of kings who descended from David was interrupted. (2 Kings 25:1-26) Would this ‘trampling’ go on forever? No, for the prophecy of Ezekiel said regarding Jerusalem’s last king, Zedekiah: "Remove the turban, and lift off the crown. . . . It will certainly become no one’s until he comes who has the legal right, and I must give it to him." (Ezekiel 21:26, 27) The one who has "the legal right" to the Davidic crown is Christ Jesus. (Luke 1:32, 33) So the ‘trampling’ would end when Jesus became King.
When would that grand event occur? Jesus showed that the Gentiles would rule for a fixed period of time. The account in Daniel chapter 4 holds the key to knowing how long that period would last. It relates a prophetic dream experienced by King Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon. He saw an immense tree that was chopped down. Its stump could not grow because it was banded with iron and copper. An angel declared: "Let seven times pass over it."—Daniel 4:10-16.
In the Bible, trees are sometimes used to represent rulership. (Ezekiel 17:22-24; 31:2-5) So the chopping down of the symbolic tree represents how God’s rulership, as expressed through the kings at Jerusalem, would be interrupted. However, the vision served notice that this ‘trampling of Jerusalem’ would be temporary—a period of "seven times." How long a period is that?
Revelation 12:6, 14 indicates that three and a half times equal "a thousand two hundred and sixty days." "Seven times" would therefore last twice as long, or 2,520 days. But the Gentile nations did not stop ‘trampling’ on God’s rulership a mere 2,520 days after Jerusalem’s fall. Evidently, then, this prophecy covers a much longer period of time. On the basis of Numbers 14:34 and Ezekiel 4:6, which speak of "a day for a year," the "seven times" would cover 2,520 years.

The 2,520 years began in October 607 B.C.E., when Jerusalem fell to the Babylonians and the Davidic king was taken off his throne. The period ended in October 1914. At that time, "the appointed times of the nations" ended, and Jesus Christ was installed as God’s heavenly King.—Psalm 2:1-6; Daniel 7:13, 14.
Just as Jesus predicted, his "presence" as heavenly King has been marked by dramatic world developments—war, famine, earthquakes, pestilences. (Matthew 24:3-8; Luke 21:11) Such developments bear powerful testimony to the fact that 1914 indeed marked the birth of God’s heavenly Kingdom and the beginning of "the last days" of this present wicked system of things.—2 Timothy 3:1-5
From October 607 B.C.E. to October 1 B.C.E. is 606 years. Since there is no zero year, from October 1 B.C.E. to October 1914 C.E. is 1,914 years. By adding 606 years and 1,914 years, we get 2,520 years.
 
If the Bible does not teach a triune God, how do you understand the following scriptures:

"Then the LORD rained on Sodom and Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven." - Gen 19:24

"Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts: ‘I am the first and I am the last, and there is no God besides me...‘" Isa 44:6

Why is there pluarality, Mee?
Then Jehovah made it rain sulphur and fire from Jehovah, from the heavens, upon Sod´om and upon Go·mor´rah
Gen 19; 24 not sure what your point is ? Jehovah made it rain fire and sulpher
This is what Jehovah has said, the King of Israel and the Repurchaser of him, Jehovah of armies, ‘I am the first and I am the last, and besides me there is no God. isaiah 44;6 .........again cant see what your point is .....
(Deuteronomy 4:35) You—you have been shown, so as to know that Jehovah is the [true] God; there is no other besides him.
 
If Jesus didnt teach a Triune God, then He is a liar for claiming to be God both by His words and what He did.
i think you will find that Jesus said it as it was and the religious leaders were the liars JOHN 10;36
do YOU say to me whom the Father sanctified and dispatched into the world, ‘You blaspheme,’ because I said, I am God’s Son? .................. Jesus never claimed to be God, the religious leaders are the ones who got it wrong .
 
God is truine; not three Gods making up one, but ONE God in essence who has three seperate persons.
no bible verse for this teaching and Jesus didnt teach that either so i will forget that one and stick to the bible .psalm 83;18 John 3;16
 
no bible verse for this teaching and Jesus didnt teach that either so i will forget that one and stick to the bible .psalm 83;18 John 3;16


Great! Stick to the Bible and explain the following verses. Notice the plurality in them:

"‘I sent a plague among you after the manner of Egypt; I slew your young men by the sword along with your captured horses, and I made the stench of your camp rise up in your nostrils; yet you have not returned to Me,' declares the LORD. ‘I [Jehovah] overthrew you as God [Elohim] overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah...'" - Amos 4:10-11

The "I" in that verse is Jehovah. Notice it says Jehovah overthrew as "God" overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah." Are there two Gods Mee?


"Then the LORD [Jehovah] rained on Sodom and Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD [Jehovah] out of heaven." - Gen 19:24

Notice how the LORD (speaking of Jehovah) rained down "from" the LORD. Do you see pluraity there? I do.


"Thus says the LORD [Jehovah], the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the LORD [Jehovah] of hosts: ‘I am the first and I am the last, and there is no God [Elohim] besides me...‘" Isa 44:6

Notice the word "and" there. There's a distintion there. Remember Jesus' words Mee, "If you do not believe that I am, you will die in your sins." That ought to scare you.
 
Great! Stick to the Bible and explain the following verses. Notice the plurality in them:

"‘I sent a plague among you after the manner of Egypt; I slew your young men by the sword along with your captured horses, and I made the stench of your camp rise up in your nostrils; yet you have not returned to Me,' declares the LORD. ‘I [Jehovah] overthrew you as God [Elohim] overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah...'" - Amos 4:10-11

The "I" in that verse is Jehovah. Notice it says Jehovah overthrew as "God" overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah." Are there two Gods Mee?


"Then the LORD [Jehovah] rained on Sodom and Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD [Jehovah] out of heaven." - Gen 19:24

Notice how the LORD (speaking of Jehovah) rained down "from" the LORD. Do you see pluraity there? I do.


"Thus says the LORD [Jehovah], the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the LORD [Jehovah] of hosts: ‘I am the first and I am the last, and there is no God [Elohim] besides me...‘" Isa 44:6

Notice the word "and" there. There's a distintion there. Remember Jesus' words Mee, "If you do not believe that I am, you will die in your sins." That ought to scare you.
yes Jehovah has great power and he can overthrow whom ever he wants , and he has , as the verses you quoted make known . and there is no God like him is there.
 
yes Jehovah has great power and he can overthrow whom ever he wants , and he has , as the verses you quoted make known . and there is no God like him is there.

You didnt address any of the questions I had. I'll repost it:

Great! Stick to the Bible and explain the following verses. Notice the plurality in them:

"‘I sent a plague among you after the manner of Egypt; I slew your young men by the sword along with your captured horses, and I made the stench of your camp rise up in your nostrils; yet you have not returned to Me,' declares the LORD. ‘I [Jehovah] overthrew you as God [Elohim] overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah...'" - Amos 4:10-11

The "I" in that verse is Jehovah. Notice it says Jehovah overthrew as "God" overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah." Are there two Gods Mee?


"Then the LORD [Jehovah] rained on Sodom and Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD [Jehovah] out of heaven." - Gen 19:24

Notice how the LORD (speaking of Jehovah) rained down "from" the LORD. Do you see pluraity there? I do.


"Thus says the LORD [Jehovah], the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the LORD [Jehovah] of hosts: ‘I am the first and I am the last, and there is no God [Elohim] besides me...‘" Isa 44:6

Notice the word "and" there. There's a distintion there. Remember Jesus' words Mee, "If you do not believe that I am, you will die in your sins." That ought to scare you.
 
You didnt address any of the questions I had. I'll repost it:

Great! Stick to the Bible and explain the following verses. Notice the plurality in them:

"‘I sent a plague among you after the manner of Egypt; I slew your young men by the sword along with your captured horses, and I made the stench of your camp rise up in your nostrils; yet you have not returned to Me,' declares the LORD. ‘I [Jehovah] overthrew you as God [Elohim] overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah...'" - Amos 4:10-11

The "I" in that verse is Jehovah. Notice it says Jehovah overthrew as "God" overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah." Are there two Gods Mee?


"Then the LORD [Jehovah] rained on Sodom and Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD [Jehovah] out of heaven." - Gen 19:24

Notice how the LORD (speaking of Jehovah) rained down "from" the LORD. Do you see pluraity there? I do.


"Thus says the LORD [Jehovah], the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the LORD [Jehovah] of hosts: ‘I am the first and I am the last, and there is no God [Elohim] besides me...‘" Isa 44:6

Notice the word "and" there. There's a distintion there. Remember Jesus' words Mee, "If you do not believe that I am, you will die in your sins." That ought to scare you.
—who and what he is—are fully summed up and expressed only in this personal name.—Ps 83:18.(he causes to become ) i am afraid there is only one true God , trying to prove otherwise is of no use at all .
 
—who and what he is—are fully summed up and expressed only in this personal name.—Ps 83:18.(he causes to become ) i am afraid there is only one true God , trying to prove otherwise is of no use at all .

You still didnt address anything I said in the last couple of posts. Lets stick with the postsed scritpures. Do you see pularity in them or no? I'll post one again (again).


"‘I sent a plague among you after the manner of Egypt; I slew your young men by the sword along with your captured horses, and I made the stench of your camp rise up in your nostrils; yet you have not returned to Me,' declares the LORD. ‘I [Jehovah] overthrew you as God [Elohim] overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah...'" - Amos 4:10-11

The "I" in that verse is Jehovah. Notice it says Jehovah overthrew as "God" overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah." Are there two Gods Mee?
 
Who
Was "the Word"?

what about John 1:1, which says in the King James Version: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God"? John 1:14

This is the problem of not having the original revelation in the original language which in case of NTBible should have been Hebrew or Aramaic, the language which JesusYeshuaIssa and his mother spoke. Our Christian friends relying on in fact translations from the original language, and then thinking on them intently treating those translations as if they were the originals, create difficulties for them and often they can’t get anything substantial from them. Well it is there right to do whatever they want with their holy books and base their beliefs on whatever they like; I am nobody to criticize them.
Arabic is a sister language of the Hebrew/Aramaic, it might be of interest for the members that this subject has been discussed by Quran in detail; but I would mention it in brief here:
[3:46] When the angels said, 'O Mary, Allah gives thee glad tidings of a son through a Word from Him; his name shall be the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, honoured in this world and in the next, and of those who are granted nearness to God;
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[3:47] 'And he shall speak to the people in the cradle, and when of middle age, and he shall be of the righteous.
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[3:48] She said, 'My Lord, how shall I have a son, when no man has touched me? He said, 'Such is the way of Allah. He creates what He pleases. When He decrees a thing, He says to it, 'Be,' and it is;'
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[3:49] "And He will teach him the Book and the Wisdom and the Torah and the Gospel;
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[4:172] O People of the Book! exceed not the limits in your religion, and say not of Allah anything but the truth. Verily, the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, was only a Messenger of Allah, and a fulfilment of His word which He has sent down to Mary, and a mercy from Him. So believe in Allah and His Messengers, and say not, 'They are three.' Desist, it will be better for you. Verily, Allah is the only One God. Holy is He, far above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth. And sufficient is Allah as a guardian.
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[4:173] Surely, the Messiah disdains not to be a servant of Allah, nor do the angels who are near to Him, and whoso disdains to worship Him and is proud, He will gather them all to Himself.
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The Urdu Catholic Christian Bible and the Urdu Protestant Christian Bible both have translated the word " Word" in Urdu as in Arabic as Kalimah, which has been used in Quran and translated in English as "Word" and enboldened by me. I think the matter becomes clear that it was a glad tiding of birth of a son to Mary, which did happen accordingly. This word has been used for his cousin John the Baptist also and for many others in Quran. This is in short.
Thanks
I am an Ahmadi - a peaceful faith in Islma
 
You didnt address any of the questions I had. I'll repost it:

Great! Stick to the Bible and explain the following verses. Notice the plurality in them:

"‘I sent a plague among you after the manner of Egypt; I slew your young men by the sword along with your captured horses, and I made the stench of your camp rise up in your nostrils; yet you have not returned to Me,' declares the LORD. ‘I [Jehovah] overthrew you as God [Elohim] overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah...'" - Amos 4:10-11

The "I" in that verse is Jehovah. Notice it says Jehovah overthrew as "God" overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah." Are there two Gods Mee?


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Then Jehovah made it rain sulphur and fire from Jehovah, from the heavens, upon Sod´om and upon Go·mor´rahGenesis 18;24 there is ony one true God and that is Jehovah
 
You still didnt address anything I said in the last couple of posts. Lets stick with the postsed scritpures. Do you see pularity in them or no? I'll post one again (again).


"‘I sent a plague among you after the manner of Egypt; I slew your young men by the sword along with your captured horses, and I made the stench of your camp rise up in your nostrils; yet you have not returned to Me,' declares the LORD. ‘I [Jehovah] overthrew you as God [Elohim] overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah...'" - Amos 4:10-11

The "I" in that verse is Jehovah. Notice it says Jehovah overthrew as "God" overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah." Are there two Gods Mee?
Then Jehovah made it rain sulphur and fire from Jehovah, from the heavens, upon Sod´om and upon Go·mor´rah Genesis 18;24seems it was Jehovah
 
Then Jehovah made it rain sulphur and fire from Jehovah, from the heavens, upon Sod´om and upon Go·mor´rah Genesis 18;24seems it was Jehovah


:confused::( Jesus said, "If you do not believe that I am, you will die in your sins." God sins mee? Please make sure you believe in the right Jesus. I'll be honest with you man: You have a different Jesus than the one the Bible displays. If you dont have the Son, you dont have the Father that sent Him. Your god is an idol mee. If you choose to believe a lie and supress the truth in unrighteousness, God will give you over to a depraved mind whereby you will believe the lie. I implore you to read the Bible without your JW presuppossition and let it [the Bible] speak for itself. Read a respected version like the KJV and not your JW bible.
 
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This is the problem of not having the original revelation in the original language which in case of NTBible should have been Hebrew or Aramaic, the language which JesusYeshuaIssa and his mother spoke. Our Christian friends relying on in fact translations from the original language, and then thinking on them intently treating those translations as if they were the originals, create difficulties for them and often they can’t get anything substantial from them. Well it is there right to do whatever they want with their holy books and base their beliefs on whatever they like; I am nobody to criticize them.
Arabic is a sister language of the Hebrew/Aramaic, it might be of interest for the members that this subject has been discussed by Quran in detail; but I would mention it in brief here:
[3:46] When the angels said, 'O Mary, Allah gives thee glad tidings of a son through a Word from Him; his name shall be the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, honoured in this world and in the next, and of those who are granted nearness to God;
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[3:47] 'And he shall speak to the people in the cradle, and when of middle age, and he shall be of the righteous.
003-047.gif
[3:48] She said, 'My Lord, how shall I have a son, when no man has touched me? He said, 'Such is the way of Allah. He creates what He pleases. When He decrees a thing, He says to it, 'Be,' and it is;'
003-048.gif
[3:49] "And He will teach him the Book and the Wisdom and the Torah and the Gospel;
003-049.gif

[4:172] O People of the Book! exceed not the limits in your religion, and say not of Allah anything but the truth. Verily, the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, was only a Messenger of Allah, and a fulfilment of His word which He has sent down to Mary, and a mercy from Him. So believe in Allah and His Messengers, and say not, 'They are three.' Desist, it will be better for you. Verily, Allah is the only One God. Holy is He, far above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth. And sufficient is Allah as a guardian.
004-172.gif
[4:173] Surely, the Messiah disdains not to be a servant of Allah, nor do the angels who are near to Him, and whoso disdains to worship Him and is proud, He will gather them all to Himself.
004-173.gif
The Urdu Catholic Christian Bible and the Urdu Protestant Christian Bible both have translated the word " Word" in Urdu as in Arabic as Kalimah, which has been used in Quran and translated in English as "Word" and enboldened by me. I think the matter becomes clear that it was a glad tiding of birth of a son to Mary, which did happen accordingly. This word has been used for his cousin John the Baptist also and for many others in Quran. This is in short.
Thanks
I am an Ahmadi - a peaceful faith in Islma

The irony here is from one who claims to believe in Jesus, then turns away from Him...

v/r

Joshua
 
:confused::( Jesus said, "If you do not believe that I am, you will die in your sins." God sins mee? Please make sure you believe in the right Jesus. I'll be honest with you man: You have a different Jesus than the one the Bible displays. If you dont have the Son, you dont have the Father that sent Him. Your god is an idol mee. If you choose to believe a lie and supress the truth in unrighteousness, God will give you over to a depraved mind whereby you will believe the lie. I implore you to read the Bible without your JW presuppossition and let it [the Bible] speak for itself. Read a respected version like the KJV and not your JW bible.

Hard to tell someone what to do, if you've never walked in their shoes...

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Joshua
 
Hard to tell someone what to do, if you've never walked in their shoes...

v/r

Joshua

Not really. I think its easy to tell someone what to do. Telling someone what to do and you yourself doing it too is what is hard, I think! All that said, Mee needs to repent and trust in the right Jesus or remain and idol worshiper.
 
Not really. I think its easy to tell someone what to do. Telling someone what to do and you yourself doing it too is what is hard, I think! All that said, Mee needs to repent and trust in the right Jesus or remain and idol worshiper.

No, you didn't get it. Hard to walk in some one else's shoes. Easier to tell them what to do, than WALK in their SHOES.

You try. You wouldn't survive a 100 yards. Either you are young, or just plain ignorant. Because you do not have a clue about the hard facts of life, and trying to catch those that are seasoned, seems to escape you...

You aren't catching any flies with the "honey" you are presenting. Indeed it stinks of vinegar...
 
Not really. I think its easy to tell someone what to do. Telling someone what to do and you yourself doing it too is what is hard, I think! All that said, Mee needs to repent and trust in the right Jesus or remain and idol worshiper.
there is only one Jesus John 3;16-17
For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, in order that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life. For God sent forth his Son into the world, not for him to judge the world, but for the world to be saved through him. :)
 
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