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Written about 1500 B.C.E. The mosaic law (found in the first five books of the bible )contained sound laws regarding quarantining of the sick,treatment of dead bodies, and disposal of waste. LEVITICUS 13;1-5 NUMBERS 19;1-13 DEUTERONOMY 23;13,14
It's interesting how life appeared almost 'on cue' such a short (geological) time after it became available for habitation? That could be a thread itself maybe? Although I've read that some people give later figures of around 2.5 Billion years ago - and there seems to be some contention on the issue (just for a change).
... Neemai
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Religion has not always viewed science as its friend. In previous centuries some theologians resisted scientific discoveries when they felt that these endangered their interpretation of the Bible. But is science really the Bible’s enemy?
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IF THE Bible writers had endorsed the most widely held scientific views of their day, the result would be a book of glaring scientific inaccuracies. Yet the writers did not promote such unscientific misconceptions. On the contrary, they penned a number of statements that not only are scientifically sound but also directly contradicted the accepted opinions of the day.
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One of the oldest medical texts available is the Ebers Papyrus, a compilation of Egyptian medical knowledge, dating from about 1550 B.C.E. This scroll contains some 700 remedies for various afflictions “ranging from crocodile bite to toenail pain.” States The International Standard Bible Encyclopaedia: “The medical knowledge of these physicians was purely empirical, largely magical and wholly unscientific.” Most of the remedies were merely ineffective, but some of them were extremely dangerous. For the treatment of a wound, one of the prescriptions recommended applying a mixture made of human excrement combined with other substances.
This text of Egyptian medical remedies was written at about the same time as the first books of the Bible, which included the Mosaic Law. Moses, who was born in 1593 B.C.E., grew up in Egypt. (Exodus 2:1-10) As a member of Pharaoh’s household, he was “instructed in all the wisdom of the Egyptians.” (Acts 7:22) He was familiar with “the physicians” of Egypt. (Genesis 50:1-3) Did their ineffective or dangerous medical practices influence his writings?
No. On the contrary, the Mosaic Law included sanitary regulations that were far ahead of their time. For example, a law regarding military encampments required burying excrement away from the camp. (Deuteronomy 23:13) This was a profoundly advanced preventive measure. It helped keep water free from contamination and provided protection from fly-borne shigellosis and other diarrheal illnesses that still claim millions of lives each year in lands where sanitary conditions are deplorable.
I fail to see your example as proving your statement.
Now if you had indication that the accepted opinion of the day was to use the center of camp as the toilet, and scripture dictated otherwise, you'd have a point... and while it is true many don't have today and didn't have then probably the common sense to not crap in their front yard...it doesn't prove your statement.
By your post I would expect you to provide proof with an accepted opinion of the day that was contradicted in scripture with a statement that is scientifically sound.
(reading info on the Ebers Papyrus indicates that they did have many notions which have since been surpassed but way ahead of their time in embalming, bone surgery, bandaging wounds, natural antiseptics, gold fillings for teeth, treating gum disease....quite good stuff....as for your largely magical and highly unscientific healing methods, hate to think what you'd say of Jesus's methods!!)
what you provided was apples and oranges, one discussion regarding a medical text and another on scripture indicating one should bury their feces outside of camp.
Now if you had indication that the accepted opinion of the day was to use the center of camp as the toilet, and scripture dictated otherwise, you'd have a point... and while it is true many don't have today and didn't have then probably the common sense to not crap in their front yard...it doesn't prove your statement.
By your post I would expect you to provide proof with an accepted opinion of the day that was contradicted in scripture with a statement that is scientifically sound.
(reading info on the Ebers Papyrus indicates that they did have many notions which have since been surpassed but way ahead of their time in embalming, bone surgery, bandaging wounds, natural antiseptics, gold fillings for teeth, treating gum disease....quite good stuff....as for your largely magical and highly unscientific healing methods, hate to think what you'd say of Jesus's methods!!)
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The Mosaic Law contained other sanitary regulations that safeguarded Israel against the spread of infectious diseases. A person who had or was suspected of having a communicable disease was quarantined. (Leviticus 13:1-5) Garments or vessels that came in contact with an animal that had died of itself (perhaps from disease) were to be either washed before reuse or destroyed. (Leviticus 11:27, 28, 32, 33) Any person who touched a corpse was considered unclean and had to undergo a cleansing procedure that included washing his garments and bathing. During the seven-day period of uncleanness, he was to avoid physical contact with others.—Numbers 19:1-13.
This sanitary code reveals wisdom not shared by the physicians of surrounding nations at the time. Thousands of years before medical science learned about the ways in which disease spreads, the Bible prescribed reasonable preventive measures as safeguards against disease. Not surprisingly, Moses could speak of Israelites in general in his day as living to 70 or 80 years of age.
In 1900, life expectancy in many European countries and in the United States was less than 50. Since then, it has increased dramatically not only on account of medical progress in controlling disease but also because of better sanitation and living conditions.—Psalm 90:10.
You may acknowledge that the foregoing Biblical statements are scientifically accurate. But there are other statements in the Bible that cannot be proved scientifically. Does that necessarily put the Bible at odds with science?
This sanitary code reveals wisdom not shared by the physicians of surrounding nations at the time. Thousands of years before medical science learned about the ways in which disease spreads, the Bible prescribed reasonable preventive measures as safeguards against disease. Not surprisingly, Moses could speak of Israelites in general in his day as living to 70 or 80 years of age.
In 1900, life expectancy in many European countries and in the United States was less than 50. Since then, it has increased dramatically not only on account of medical progress in controlling disease but also because of better sanitation and living conditions.—Psalm 90:10.
You may acknowledge that the foregoing Biblical statements are scientifically accurate. But there are other statements in the Bible that cannot be proved scientifically. Does that necessarily put the Bible at odds with science?
No, it must be noted that he is NO evangelist, at all. And He was with President Clinton and was given the award for the discovery, which was broadcast on TV, AND Clinton also stated the truth of God in the matrix...
Try reading the book...
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is that the book by Francis .s collins. A Scientist Presents Evidence for Belief . i might just have a read of that
Indeed...
Well written and well thought out. And he slams no faith at all. He simply expresses his thoughts and conclusions, and how he came to them.
No pressure...
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Another book that is good reading is the book calledIndeed...
Well written and well thought out. And he slams no faith at all. He simply expresses his thoughts and conclusions, and how he came to them.
No pressure...
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THE PRIVILEGED PLANET by Guillermo Gonzales and Jay W. Richards i think they are scientists, but that book is going more into the planet and the wonderful design of it .
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ok ,back to the bible and the reasons we can trust it .
Partly as a result of turning powerful telescopes toward the heavens,
scientists have concluded that the universe had a sudden "birth." not all scientists like the implications of this explanation. One professor noted "A universe that began seems to demand a first cause, for who could imagine such an effect without a sufficient cause?"Yet ,long before telescopes ,the very first verse of the bible plainly stated " in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth,"(Genesis 1;1)
Partly as a result of turning powerful telescopes toward the heavens,
scientists have concluded that the universe had a sudden "birth." not all scientists like the implications of this explanation. One professor noted "A universe that began seems to demand a first cause, for who could imagine such an effect without a sufficient cause?"Yet ,long before telescopes ,the very first verse of the bible plainly stated " in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth,"(Genesis 1;1)
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Here's an article about some theories Creationists have come up with to explain the vast distances of space. I find the Time Dilation of Light theory very interesting.
I remember reading something about astronomers checking the red-shift of galaxies and discovering that the universe is structured with galaxies restrained to certain "layers" (like how electrons are layered in different shells), and that the only way we would be able to even observe such a phenomenon is if our galaxy was either in, or close to the center of the Universe.
Edit: found an article about that.
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Humans have long noted that the rivers flow into the seas and oceans and yet these do not increase in depth. Some believed, until it was learned that the earth is spherical, that this was because an equal amount of water was spilling off the ends of the earth. Later it was learned that the sun “pumps” up thousands of millions of gallons of water from the seas every second in the form of water vapor. This produces clouds that are moved by the wind over land areas where the moisture falls as rain and snow. Water then runs into the rivers and flows again into the seas. This marvelous cycle, although generally unknown in ancient times, is spoken about in the Bible: “Every river flows into the sea, but the sea is not yet full. The water returns to where the rivers began, and starts all over again.”—Ecclesiastes 1:7, Today’s English Version.
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The closer the Bible is examined, the more astonishing is its remarkable accuracy. the Bible gives the stages of creation in the very order science now confirms, a fact hard to explain if the Bible were simply of human origin. This is another example of the many details in the Bible that have been confirmed by increasing knowledge. With good reason one of the greatest scientists of all time, Isaac Newton, said: “No sciences are better attested than the religion of the Bible.”
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Does Science Contradict the Genesis Account?
Does the Bible really teach that all physical creation was produced in six 24-hour days?