Lucifer&War in Heaven

mee said:
before 1914 satan was sometime on the earth and sometime in the heaven , and as you say he was in the garden of eden , but after 1914 he was not allowed back into heaven any more he was cast out, so he is down here angry as can be . he cannot attack Gods kingdom up there any more so he is out to be in opposition to anyone down here who is for the kingdom ,and he is out to stop people putting their trust in Gods heavenly kingdom. and he is out to put people into doing things out of line with Gods ways .

but not for much longer because Jesus has the symbolic key to lock him away for 1000 years ,and then there will be no more opposition and Gods kingdom can rule without any opposition .:) we are now well along into the book of revelation and many things have been happening in this time of the end since 1914.
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Now that is definitely not biblical. Lucifer cast out from heaven post 1914?

It would be one thing if JWs used their own doctrine for this set of circumstances...but to try to convey the bible as the prophetic where for all for the JW faith and apply specific dates no less... is ludicrous.

No one knows the end, but the Father, and He has made no one privy to that date...
 
bob x said:
??? That is the EXACT OPPOSITE of what Jesus said.
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YOU are from YOUR father the Devil, and YOU wish to do the desires of YOUR father. That one was a manslayer when he began, and he did not stand fast in the truth, because truth is not in him. When he speaks the lie, he speaks according to his own disposition, because he is a liar and the father of [the lie]. John 8;44

He who carries on sin originates with the Devil, because the Devil has been sinning from [the] beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was made manifest, namely, to break up the works of the Devil.1 john 3;8



from the beginning of his rebellion satan has been sinning
 
Quahom1 said:
Now that is definitely not biblical. Lucifer cast out from heaven post 1914?

It would be one thing if JWs used their own doctrine for this set of circumstances...but to try to convey the bible as the prophetic where for all for the JW faith and apply specific dates no less... is ludicrous.

No one knows the end, but the Father, and He has made no one privy to that date...
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he wasnt cast out for good until 1914 , he cant get back in now . and as you mentioned ,no one knows the day or hour when Jehovah will step into the affairs of man and put an end to human goverments Daniel 2;44. the heavenly kingdom is all set up and ready to go into action ,Jesus is waiting for Jehovah to say the time
 
And war broke out in heaven: Mi´cha·el and his angels battled with the dragon, and the dragon and its angels battled 8 but it did not prevail, neither was a place found for them any longer in heaven. 9 So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his angels were hurled down with him. REVELATION 12 ;7-9
 
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