I ran over a racoon

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I was coming home late last night when the critter ran left to right across the road right in front of me. I didn't even have a chance to mash the brakes and ran over the poor thing full force on my right front and rear tires. I felt absolutely horrid. Man. And I actually apologized to it and even to God. It was just not a good feeling at all.
 
You didn't intend harm. It was an accident. But I understand how you feel.
 
I was coming home late last night when the critter ran left to right across the road right in front of me. I didn't even have a chance to mash the brakes and ran over the poor thing full force on my right front and rear tires. I felt absolutely horrid. Man. And I actually apologized to it and even to God. It was just not a good feeling at all.

It truly is terrible when something like that happens I am sure. At least you stopped to make sure that the animal was dead/couldn't be saved. Life is a very precious and amazing thing and we cannot help but feel sorry when we are intuned to the value of life, as someone else said, you didn't intend to. We live in the country here and we drive especially slow as there is no rush and it helps to prevent danger to life. I am sorry that has happened to you, it must feel bad.
 
i once ran over like 3 stray dogs at the same time. stupid dogs. couldn't they see my car's headlights or hear it. they can sense evil a mile away, but they couldn't sense my car. it makes no sense. anyways, i felt bad for them. i don't know if i killed all three, but i had to have injured them pretty badly.

another situation happened most recently. one where it definately stupifies me completely. i was coming back from bikeriding with my dad, when on the road there was what seemed to be a gray pigeon standing on the road and i was coming pretty fast towards it. i thought to myself, "wow, a pigeon on the road! it'll fly away as soon as i get near it." nope. the pigeon just stood there for no aparent reason. and i know it saw my car, but it still stood there! so as i tried to swerve, it was too late. the stupid bird went right under my tire. two thumps later, i look in the rear view mirror and i see its tiny body rolling on the pavement. what a bummer, no? *sighs* oh well. a time for everything right? could it be possible the pigeon wanted to commit suicide? i'll never know...
 
I doubt it wanted to comit suicide I would assume it had no idea someone who had no drviing skill or awareness of laws and rules of the road with a lack of responsability would come bombing down the road.... But hey, you murdered life... But bright side you got somewhere fast...... Well done.....
 
LOL! dude, i was following the speed limit. give me a break, alex. i hope you were joking. hard to tell....... were you?
 
No sorry, I wasn't.

I find it ugly when people can so casually extingiush life... Your eyes fail you not, nor does your mind, You spot and identify an animal in the road, how hard is it to stop? And allow a creature to move? To think you also hit three dogs baffles the hell out of me and makes me feel quite sick, only someone with no control over their driving could have hit all three... And not even stopping to make sure none could be saved or put out of their needless misery and pain really sickens me. I see it everyday as I walk to work all these animals slain by the side of the road and it just gets to me how people lack any sense of kindness....

Oh my freaking god! If I don't ram right through this fellow animal and kill it in cold blood I could be like 30seconds behind schedule.... How the.... Can anyone justify killing.... *shruggs*
 
*sighs* i respect your point of view. truthfully, i don't know what to say. the dogs i ran over were in a pack. it was night time. i could barely see them as i was turning into a road and when i finally saw them, it was too late.

the pigeon was just standing there. i didn't mean to kill it. i honestly thought it was going to move. don't all birds fly away upon seeing or sensing danger? they won't even let me get near them so i can pet them. let alone a car that is coming at them full speed.

i don't want you to think i am some cold hearted bastard, because i have so much compassion for life. i mean, i am a bastard, but i don't mean to kill anything. well anything except roaches. do you kill roaches, alex? should we have compassion for roaches as well? it might be a silly question, but could you answer it? now i am curious. or maybe a snake. or maybe someone who has a gun to the head of someone you love. or do you eat meat? heck even vegetables? i would like to know now because you have judged me. i know you love animals because you consider your dogs like your own children.

as i said in the beginning, i respect your point of view. i don't expect you to respect mine, but try and understand, i make mistakes. i am only human. know also that i WILL be more careful on the road because of this conversation. believe it or not, i learned something and will carry it to my grave. sorry if i offended, bruh. hope you can forgive me.
 
I knew this girl who would cry if she so much as heard about a news story where an animal suffered. I always respected her for that, but I could never feel the same way or understand. On the other hand, I felt really bad about hitting a bunny with my car in the road. Perhaps vegetarians and those who feel deaths far away from them have developed an intelligence that some of us lack? Somebody did a mental health study about why young men (like in Rwanda) don't mind fighting as much as older men, and it is likely because younger men are biologically unable to appreciate what death means. They said awareness of death is traceable to a biological change that occurs in our brains as we grow older, so that a man who was a daredevil when he was young will often become cautious when he gets older. Its like the younger men just don't get it, and the older ones suddenly do.
 
*sighs* i respect your point of view. truthfully, i don't know what to say. the dogs i ran over were in a pack. it was night time. i could barely see them as i was turning into a road and when i finally saw them, it was too late.

You could have still gone back and helped. :/

i honestly thought it was going to move. don't all birds fly away upon seeing or sensing danger?

I guess not?

do you kill roaches, alex? should we have compassion for roaches as well?

No I do not kill anything lol... Not even roaches. They have just the same right as I to live, who am I to decide and judge their life? Just because it is a cockroach doesn't make it's life an less value... That is along the lines of Whites are superior to Blacks or Aryan to Jewish... I am not saying you are a racist or anything lol but what I am saying is we seem to put different values on life and scale it different, life is life, is life.. is life.

eat meat? heck even vegetables?

I am actually eating less and less meat now, but still that is different, eating meat is not destruction to a degree it is sustaining life so the cycle can continue.. Can you see?

i know you love animals because you consider your dogs like your own children.

I consider my dogs my pack... I am their leader yes lol. They are more my followers and my subordinates then children but I love them more then most they are my family. ;)

as i said in the beginning, i respect your point of view. i don't expect you to respect mine, but try and understand, i make mistakes. i am only human. know also that i WILL be more careful on the road because of this conversation. believe it or not, i learned something and will carry it to my grave. sorry if i offended, bruh. hope you can forgive me.

I am sorry to sound like I am getting at you if that is how it comes across, but when someone says something like that I have to speak, and as we all know text is hard to read there is no tone or pace or pitch... It seemed in a carless tone to me, so I had to speak... I am not trying to attack you or anything hombre, just we need to think about how our actions effect others, an in these cases fatally.... Yes I forgive you Hermano.

I knew this girl who would cry if she so much as heard about a news story where an animal suffered.

I get her. I too shed tears for the pain of other animals.
 
No I do not kill anything lol... Not even roaches.

I think we all kill, it may be unintentional, it may be unknowingly...Jains I believe sometimes wear face masks so they don't breathe in airborne creatures (and thus kill them). I imagine you don't Alex, as I don't. It's a matter of degree and what we are comfortable with in our conscience presently; I think. There is an unanswerable question: To live is to kill - what are you going to do? Which leads to>


I am actually eating less and less meat now, but still that is different, eating meat is not destruction to a degree it is sustaining life so the cycle can continue.. Can you see?

You may already guess it, but I'm glad you're eating less meat; for your health and out of compassion? Eating meat DOES involve the destruction of sentient life BUT it is also part of a cycle yes> (carnivore/omnivore/herbivore...) As a vegetarian my choice of diet supports the veal industry. Back to my unanswerable question above...

Not getting at you Alex, just adding my contribution to the crawling around in the dark... :)

s.

PS dare I mention the J word?
 
I would guess that most that have been behind the wheel for any length of time have had some dramatic occurrences.

For me, there was a cat, when I was just learning to drive and it bolted out, being chase or what I don't know, and hit the side of my car and under the back tire. I saw it writhing in pain in my rearview mirror as I came to a stop but when I got to it it had died.

Now I used to be a hunter, and actively killed, but that was quite different experience.

I was also rolling down the highway late at night and a cow was in the road, I braked, swerved to avoid it, and another was right there. I had a deer jump over a guardrail and straight into my driver side window, I was nose to nose with it.

I've definitely killed my share. They weren't all intentional (the hunting was) and not my fault unless I deserve the blame for turning the key.

I will relate one I saw coming, but didn't understand the consequences as it all unfolded. Picture a large field to your left as you are driving, just at dusk. A loan tree is in that field and blinking like a christmas tree. Suddenly all the fireflies leave the tree and fly across the field like a strata in a canyon. You see this undulating wave of light hundreds of thousands of fireflies moving through the field, mesmerized while you are driving. Suddenly you realize the beginning of this migration has crossed the road and you are know driving right into it!

Your windshield is covered with dead fireflies, glowing, you can't hardly see through it. I turned on my wipers to get them off, and smeared them across the window, a solid smear, two swipes of light. I had to scream to a stop as I could see nothing, nothing through the window.

We learn from these lessons, learn to slow down, learn when we see movement to take our foot off the gas and hover over the break...but we still make mistakes.
 
wil, that is one crazy firefly story you have there. i don't know wether to laugh or feel your pain. whatever causes a grown man to scream in terror is something to truly respect. anyhow, thanks for sharing that. the mental imagery you caused is something i will definately remember each time i see a firefly and will do my very best to avoid from here on out.
 
They said awareness of death is traceable to a biological change that occurs in our brains as we grow older, so that a man who was a daredevil when he was young will often become cautious when he gets older. Its like the younger men just don't get it, and the older ones suddenly do.

I don't know. I was always aware of death. By the time I could talk, I would cry to my mother about the people dying from famine and such. Death never bothered me in and of itself, but what humans to do each other and other beings is what bothers me. There is no purpose for all the suffering we cause.

Every dead thing I have passed on the road, since I was a little girl, brings tears and a sincere apology to the being, to the Earth, and to God for the suffering that humans cause through our technology.

The fact is, we are bound to make mistakes in something like a car because it moves so fast and is so lethal. We're commuting in what is easily a weapon. Our brains and bodies aren't fast enough sometimes to act on the information we perceive as we hurtle down the road. But short of going back to the days of walking, biking, horses, and oxen and never traveling farther than a few dozen miles from home, this is the choice that we, as a society, have made.

Still seems unjust for all the beings whose lives are snuffed out (humans included) due to our desire for quick transit. So I apologize. The same way I ask for forgiveness for my indirect participation in war (through my taxes, even though I am a pacifist), in exploitation (through buying things, even though I try hard to find reputable companies), and so forth. By virtue of living in the modern US, I am causing suffering to others. Lots of suffering. Sometimes it just kills me emotionally, because I've always been very sensitive to other beings' suffering.

I will say, I try despite my mistakes. It is possible to at least try to act compassionately toward these beings that we harm on the road. I've never hit one, myself (thank God), but I do know that no matter how careful you are, it can happen. My dad was heartbroken over hitting a deer once. It literally lept from the side of the road in the trees (where he couldn't see it) in front of his grill in one bound. It really shook him up. No matter how compassionate we are, it can happen. That said, I feel we should *always* go back and make sure the animal is dead (provided we can do this without causing further accidents, which we generally can), so that if it isn't, we can attempt to save it or at least put it out of its misery as quickly as possible. Where my dad lived, there were a lot of deer accidents, and people carried hunting knives to kill deer if they were mortally wounded but not dead. Compassion is not always easy or happy fluffy bunny stuff. Sometimes, taking responsibility is uncomfortable, scary, and gory.

Animals that are fatally wounded should be euthanized or, if this is impossible, at least have someone with them in their final moments. They should know they were worthy of respect and compassion. I would hope someone would stand by me as I was dying. And you never know what might happen under these circumstances. When I was a little girl, about ten, I rescued a cat who had been crushed by a car and left to die in the road... in the dark and the rain. We couldn't take him to the emergency vet as we were quite poor and our regular vet who often helped us save strays for free was closed since it was nighttime. One hip was completely crushed, he was barely breathing, eyes were shut and he was bleeding from both ears and his nose. We cried over him, pet his wet fur, put him in a box with towels and in front of the heater for warmth. We apologized for this injustice to his life, that he had been simply left to die without any love at all. And we loved him for all we were worth for the hours we had before bed.

The next morning, he was meowing for food, doing his best to drag himself around his box with his useless leg. After being cleaned up by the vet, he formed a false hip joing and knitted himself back together so that years later, you could hardly tell he was crushed at one point. He fully recovered and led a wonderful life for another 12 years or so until he died naturally of old age and bone cancer.

If no one had checked on him, what are the odds he would have survived that rainy night, in the middle of the road, while his body tried to patch itself up as it slept?
 
I don't know. I was always aware of death. By the time I could talk, I would cry to my mother about the people dying from famine and such. Death never bothered me in and of itself, but what humans to do each other and other beings is what bothers me. There is no purpose for all the suffering we cause.
Yeah, its just a BBC story; so just rumor. That's an interesting point you make about human beings. I can't complain about having to suffer if my very existence causes others to.
 
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