The sunnah is the way of the Prophet (alaihi salatu wa salam). The sunnah informs us how the Prophet did everything in life so we can emulate him. The ahadeeth are the collection of the Prophet's sayings recorded in various books, the most prominent being Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim. Allah holy and exalted is He says in the Quran: You (O believers!) have indeed in the Messenger of Allah a beautiful pattern (of conduct) for any one whose hope is in Allah and the Final Day, and who engages much in the Praise of Allah (33:21)
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the existance of the sunnah contradicts the completion of the nobel quran.. mohummed said in an hadith "do not take anything from eexcpt the quran" even if The quran is the true word of god the sunnah has no other purpose in islamic schooling other than the majoritty of sharia rulings..
if a lot of scholars decide that they want prophet mohammed (pbuh) to have saidd tthis then it becomes so. that remains.. the sunnah is 200 years after the life of the prophet and to be honest.. f these people were in control of the islamic religion. it is imams putting words in the mouth of mohammed.
if the sunnah was revealed to mohammed why is it seperate from the quran at all.. why would the quran have an inccomplete ruling of sharia..
this is in my mind, one of the major inconsistancies of islam..
if a lot of scholars decide that they want prophet mohammed (pbuh) to have saidd tthis then it becomes so. that remains.. the sunnah is 200 years after the life of the prophet and to be honest.. f these people were in control of the islamic religion. it is imams putting words in the mouth of mohammed.
if the sunnah was revealed to mohammed why is it seperate from the quran at all.. why would the quran have an inccomplete ruling of sharia..
this is in my mind, one of the major inconsistancies of islam..
Radunzel said:
The authority for the Sunnah is derived from the Quran:
He who obeys the messenger obeys Allah (4:80)
Islam is a religion which is not simply based on a book, but also a prophet who's duty is to explain the book. When the Prophet speaks, he is speaking out of divine revelation, as mentioned in the Quran: It is no less than inspiration sent down to him (53:4)
The ahadith have been recorded in minute detail, along with their chains of narration, which means they are not concoctions of some imams or scholars, but in fact the words of the Prophet (alaihi salatu wa salam) passed down from generation to generation. Many of the hadith are mass narrated and corroborated by a multitude of narrators, making it impossible for them to be fabricated.
And all praise belongs to Allah!
Where to start with this one..
46:9
7:188
the best is
13:40 "Your only mission (o muhammed) is to deliever quran, while it is we who will call them in account"
42:48
You have NO duty except delivering quran
5:99-100
"The messenger has NO function execpt delievering quran, and god knows whatever you declare as well as whatever you conceal. say " the good and the bad are not the same, despite the abudance of the bad" therefore you shall observe GOD o'you that posses intelligence, that you may suceed
55:12
god is the teacher of the quran
anyway nail in the coffin time..
Abi saeed AlKhudry may allah be pleased with him reported that the messenger of allah may allah exhalt him and grant him peace had said -
"Do not write anything from me except Quran. anyone who wrote anything other than the quran shall erase it."
go on
46:9
7:188
the best is
13:40 "Your only mission (o muhammed) is to deliever quran, while it is we who will call them in account"
42:48
You have NO duty except delivering quran
5:99-100
"The messenger has NO function execpt delievering quran, and god knows whatever you declare as well as whatever you conceal. say " the good and the bad are not the same, despite the abudance of the bad" therefore you shall observe GOD o'you that posses intelligence, that you may suceed
55:12
god is the teacher of the quran
anyway nail in the coffin time..
Abi saeed AlKhudry may allah be pleased with him reported that the messenger of allah may allah exhalt him and grant him peace had said -
"Do not write anything from me except Quran. anyone who wrote anything other than the quran shall erase it."
go on
Radunzel, I would like to know what your religion is...sometimes you are quoting from the Quran, advertising Shia and Quranist websites, and other times condemning the Quran and saying that the God of the Quran is not the same as God of the bible, etc. In any event, it seems you are really confused.
Anyways, the ayah you quoted 13:40 "Your only mission (o muhammed) is to deliever quran, while it is we who will call them in account"
In reality, the word "Quran" is nowhere mentioned in this verse. Instead the word balagh is used which means the duty of the Prophet (alaihi salatu wa salam) is to convey the message of Islam.
And it is the exact same case with the other verse you quoted: 5:99-100
"The messenger has NO function execpt delievering quran
The word Quran is not mentioned at all, only the word balagh (to convey a general message).
As for the hadith you quoted, it is being addressed to the companions of the Prophet (alaihi salatu wa salam). They were given specific instruction not to write down the Prophet's sayings, but rather only to memorize them. The reason for this was there was a danger the Quran and hadith could become mixed up, they needed to be kept separate until the Quran was compiled.
Anyways, the ayah you quoted 13:40 "Your only mission (o muhammed) is to deliever quran, while it is we who will call them in account"
In reality, the word "Quran" is nowhere mentioned in this verse. Instead the word balagh is used which means the duty of the Prophet (alaihi salatu wa salam) is to convey the message of Islam.
And it is the exact same case with the other verse you quoted: 5:99-100
"The messenger has NO function execpt delievering quran
The word Quran is not mentioned at all, only the word balagh (to convey a general message).
As for the hadith you quoted, it is being addressed to the companions of the Prophet (alaihi salatu wa salam). They were given specific instruction not to write down the Prophet's sayings, but rather only to memorize them. The reason for this was there was a danger the Quran and hadith could become mixed up, they needed to be kept separate until the Quran was compiled.
well its easy to be confused ezra paul and uttman all had really differant ideas for the abraham religion.. but instead of making it complete they never do exceptt in utmans case in which is where tthe notion of hadith comes from! all the hadith does is fill in the holes on jurisddrictions
but thank you for correcting the words that where wrong. i apologiise for how incorrrect my quran is.. =)
i was quranist, but i was fully aware imam ali knew the quran the best and he should have been the true successor
who now i just belive in god but i believe god itself would just want you to be kind honest and pious and that anyone who tries to elborrate is taken far ttoo literally
historically i think mohammed wanted to correct christianity and bring it to the pagan arabs.. (which is a nobel cause when you think back to the golden calf of moses) but i dont think a whole new religion was his idea.. to be frank, he was just a reconstructionist.. it is utman who "created" islam as a seperate religion not muhammed (pbuh)
but thank you for correcting the words that where wrong. i apologiise for how incorrrect my quran is.. =)
i was quranist, but i was fully aware imam ali knew the quran the best and he should have been the true successor
who now i just belive in god but i believe god itself would just want you to be kind honest and pious and that anyone who tries to elborrate is taken far ttoo literally
historically i think mohammed wanted to correct christianity and bring it to the pagan arabs.. (which is a nobel cause when you think back to the golden calf of moses) but i dont think a whole new religion was his idea.. to be frank, he was just a reconstructionist.. it is utman who "created" islam as a seperate religion not muhammed (pbuh)