No More Messiahs! Jesus PBUH will NOT be returning

Salam Brother Abdallah


Actually brother, the reason why this evidence has to exist
is because YOU are using this argument as a foundation for
your case that Jesus PBUH traveled physically to heaven.
And I am telling you that no where in the Quran is there any
indication that such a thing is allowed to any mortal before death.

Alikum salaam br,


excuse me for not explaining it more clearly to you; the reference of the prophet [saw]'s miraj was just used as a extra bit of corraborating evidence thats all; the case for the ascension of jesus [pbuh] while he was alive has been made with concrete evidence from the Quran, and the Sunnah

You were trying to use the miraj as a precedent, remember?
This is the whole reason for the argument.
And now you are saying this:



"As I said br, there dont need to be any evidence of the Prophet [saw's] physical miraj".

Well I hope i have clarified it up for you now inshAllah :)

Hope you dont think by all of this that I am backing away from the fact that Muhamamd [saw's] ascension was indeed physical, for it is br as i have shown; what I am merely saying is this is a side point anyway... and I think you may agree with me on this as you have acknowledged yourself that Allah indeed can raise someone physically and in a alive state to the heavens if he wills
 
Salam Brother



the case for the ascension of jesus [pbuh] while he was alive has been made with concrete evidence from the Quran, and the Sunnah
Not at all.

Your claim that it is based in the Quran is completely false.
And has been proven to be so up till now because you have
failed to provide any verses that show that it is true.

And as for your claim that it is based in reliable hadith, well,
I was actually looking forward to nullifying this claim as well.
The fact is that this claim is based in unreliable hadiths,
and the sources you have provided are also faulty.


The source by Harun Yahya claims that the compilation of
hadith by Imam Maliki "Al-Muwatta" which was written only 150
years after the Prophet (450 years earlier then Bukhari)
contains those hadiths about the return of Jesus PBUH
this is NOT true.

The truth is Imam Maliki did NOT include those hadiths as
part of his compilation. And the reason is because there was
discrepancy in its chain of narration which at two points
narrows down to just one person. And that one person has
been shown to be an unreliable source as he has transmitted
faulty hadiths in other instances.

I would love to discuss this issue with you further, but first
you must admit that we have established so far that this
belief of the return of Jesus PBUH has no foundation in the Quran.

Then we can move on to examining its bases in the hadith,
which is also based in unreliable hadith.


Well I hope i have clarified it up for you now inshAllah :)


I am sorry brother, but you have not proved anything yet.
You are just going around in circles, that is all.

The sooner you admit that this belief has no foundation in the Quran,
the sooner we can move on to examining the root cause of your belief,
i.e those faulty hadiths.
 
But the Quran says nothing about the return of Christ, so how can it possibly be considered part of the
aqeedah?

Aqeedah is founded upon the Quran and mutawatir hadiths too br; it is part of the Sunni Aqeedah to believe in all mutawatir hadiths; in Imam at Tahawi's Aqeedah [which the entire ummah concurs on] it says in point number 76.

We agree with wiping over leather socks (in ablution) whether on a journey or otherwise, just as has come in the hadiths

Shaykh Hamza Yusuf, in his translation and annotation of Imam Tahawi's Aqeedah, said that allthuogh this point is usually one of jurisprudence, yet it has been put into the Aeedah to show a verry important point of the Aqeedah whcih is to accept the mutawatir hadiths, and this particular point is based on a mutawatir hadith; he then said about how mutawatir hadiths are equall to the Quran in their legal and creedal considerations, thereby making it a type of kufr to reject them; he then went on to quote a great Sunni Imam of the past who said that he fears a state of desblief for one who rejects wiping over the foot covering]; now we know how moderate and intelligent and circumspect shaykh hamza Yusuf is dont we bro?; thus he is a least likely person to warn of kufr over any matter if he weren't absolutely sure of it and didn't reseach it thorouglhy... :eek:


Salaam br, :)

I overlooked one of the points of the Aqeedah, which is more to the point:

100. We believe in the signs of the Hour such as the appearance of the Antichrist (dajjal) and the descent of `Isa ibn Maryam, peace be upon him, from heaven, and we believe in the rising of the sun from where it sets and in the emergence of the Beast from the earth.

Tahawi Beliefs of Ahl al-Sunna

Salam :)
 
Salaam br, :)

I overlooked one of the points of the Aqeedah, which is more to the point:

100. We believe in the signs of the Hour such as the appearance of the Antichrist (dajjal) and the descent of `Isa ibn Maryam, peace be upon him, from heaven, and we believe in the rising of the sun from where it sets and in the emergence of the Beast from the earth.

Tahawi Beliefs of Ahl al-Sunna

Salam :)


The discussion has moved much past that brother..
 
The discussion has moved much past that brother..

Salaam br,

It has indeed, but with that last bit of concrete proof that it is part of the Aqeedah; add that to all the other evidences provided here and this view becomes irrefutable :)

Salaam :)
 
Salaam br,

It has indeed, but with that last bit of concrete proof that it is part of the Aqeedah; add that to all the other evidences provided here and this view becomes irrefutable

Salaam


Brother, the legitimacy of your entire Aqeedah has been
called into question. So your defending a point from the point of
view of "aqeedah" makes your case weaker, not stronger.
 
Brother, the legitimacy of your entire Aqeedah has been
called into question. So your defending a point from the point of
view of "aqeedah" makes your case weaker, not stronger.
ouch!...:mad:
 
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see my refutations on ....


These aren't refutations brother.
They are attempts at refutation.

Forget about finding a foundation in the Quran,
even a solid basis in the hadith for that aqeedah is lacking.

I await your response on the other thread.
 
These aren't refutations brother.
They are attempts at refutation.

Forget about finding a foundation in the Quran,
even a solid basis in the hadith for that aqeedah is lacking.

I await your response on the other thread.

Salaam br :)

Sorry for the late response br, but I ve been having difficulty fitting in some time for this lately

I've just about finished what I wanted to say on the other thread br, and now it seems were gonna get into the merry go round, big time! :), so I 'll politley bow [to Allah] out of it.

Once again br, the evidence and analysis provided there, refutes your latest 'source' and is irrefutable :)

Salaam
 
Salaam br :)

Sorry for the late response br, but I ve been having difficulty fitting in some time for this lately

I've just about finished what I wanted to say on the other thread br, and now it seems were gonna get into the merry go round, big time! :), so I 'll politley bow [to Allah] out of it.

Once again br, the evidence and analysis provided there, refutes your la test 'source' and is irrefutable :)

Salaam

Well then, I will see you there. Although, I do not know why you are saying "once again"
because if you do present a valid source and evidence, it would be the first time.
 
red alert! red alert! attention calling c0de

absolute confirmation now c0de that the hadith:

3. Another evidence used by Islamic scholars is the hadith narrated by Jabir Ibn Abdullah which says, "Anyone who denies Mahdi's coming has denied what was revealed to Prophet Mohammed (may God bless him and grant him peace). Anyone who rejects Prophet Jesus' (pbuh), son of Maryam, coming has become a disbeliever. Anyone who does not accept Dajjal's appearance has also become a disbeliever."

Jesus Will Return - by Harun Yahya

as far as Jesus [pbuh] return is concerned, is true!

shaykh jibril confirms the apostasy of the second coming rejectors! :eek::

The status of a Muslim who denies that `Isa, upon him peace, shall descend at the end of times is that of apostasy.(1)

Various Questions (3) Answered by Shaykh Gibril Haddad

So now you have no choice but to accept the second coming! ;)


Peace!
 
red alert! red alert! attention calling c0de

absolute confirmation now c0de that the hadith:

3. Another evidence used by Islamic scholars is the hadith narrated by Jabir Ibn Abdullah which says, "Anyone who denies Mahdi's coming has denied what was revealed to Prophet Mohammed (may God bless him and grant him peace). Anyone who rejects Prophet Jesus' (pbuh), son of Maryam, coming has become a disbeliever. Anyone who does not accept Dajjal's appearance has also become a disbeliever."

Jesus Will Return - by Harun Yahya

as far as Jesus [pbuh] return is concerned, is true!

shaykh jibril confirms the apostasy of the second coming rejectors! :eek::

The status of a Muslim who denies that `Isa, upon him peace, shall descend at the end of times is that of apostasy.(1)

Various Questions (3) Answered by Shaykh Gibril Haddad

So now you have no choice but to accept the second coming! ;)


Peace!

And at that time Michael shall stand up. The name means who is like god or one who is like god. He is literally gods firstborn son of the heavenly kingdom. MY point is if muslims believe in this why arent they following the true peaceful meaning of the scriptures.l Put on as divine mind and realize the words in holy books do not mean say for example to actually harm someone and take their life. Through good interactions and knowledge of the kingdom of heaven. God is love and all good things come from love such as compassion.l Do you think literally beheading someone shows any kind of compassion? The scriptures really mean to change the mind and obtain a new mind that is divine so beheading in gods kingdom and in the scriptures doesnt mean to actually cut off someones head. So why doesnt the muslim (a lot of it) believe that it does?
 
And at that time Michael shall stand up. The name means who is like god or one who is like god. He is literally gods firstborn son of the heavenly kingdom. MY point is if muslims believe in this why arent they following the true peaceful meaning of the scriptures.l Put on as divine mind and realize the words in holy books do not mean say for example to actually harm someone and take their life. Through good interactions and knowledge of the kingdom of heaven. God is love and all good things come from love such as compassion.l Do you think literally beheading someone shows any kind of compassion? The scriptures really mean to change the mind and obtain a new mind that is divine so beheading in gods kingdom and in the scriptures doesnt mean to actually cut off someones head. So why doesnt the muslim (a lot of it) believe that it does?

Basically what I am trying to say is that the koran is being grossly misinterpreted. So where are the holy men in islam telling the people the truth?
 
And at that time Michael shall stand up. The name means who is like god or one who is like god. He is literally gods firstborn son of the heavenly kingdom. MY point is if muslims believe in this why arent they following the true peaceful meaning of the scriptures.l Put on as divine mind and realize the words in holy books do not mean say for example to actually harm someone and take their life. Through good interactions and knowledge of the kingdom of heaven. God is love and all good things come from love such as compassion.l Do you think literally beheading someone shows any kind of compassion? The scriptures really mean to change the mind and obtain a new mind that is divine so beheading in gods kingdom and in the scriptures doesnt mean to actually cut off someones head. So why doesnt the muslim (a lot of it) believe that it does?



Allah has no sons my dear Donnan; Allah is One without any partners [in His divinity] at all:

AL-IKHLAS (SINCERITY)

Total Verses: 4
Revealed At: MAKKA
112.1-4

Say: He is Allah, the One!
Allah, the eternally Besought of all!
He begetteth not nor was begotten.
And there is none like unto Him.


Quran 19.88..93 ( Surat Maryam , verses 88 .. 93)

They say: "(Allah) Most Gracious has begotten a son!"
[89] Indeed ye have put forth a thing most monstrous!
[90] As if the skies are ready to burst, the earth to split asunder, and the mountains to fall down in utter ruin.
[91] That they should invoke a son for (Allah) Most Gracious.
[92] For it is not consonant with the majesty of (Allah) Most Gracious that He should beget a son
[93] Not one of the beings in the heavens and the earth but must come to (Allah) Most Gracious as a servant.


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They say: "Allah hath begotten a son": Glory be to Him, nay, to Him belongs all that is in the heavens and on earth: everything renders worship to Him.
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Quran 2.116 ( Surat albakarah , verse 116)
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They say, "Allah hath begotten a son!" Glory be to Him! He is Self-Sufficient! His are all things in the heavens and on earth! No warrant have ye for this! Say ye about Allah what ye know not?
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Quran 10.68 ( Surat Yunus , verse 68)



What they say is nothing but falsehood !


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Further, that He may warn those (also) who say, "Allah hath begotten a son":[5] No knowledge have they of such a thing, nor had their fathers. It is a grievous thing that issues from their mouths as a saying: What they say is nothing but falsehood!
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Quran 18.4,5 ( Surat Al-Kahf , verses 4,5)



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To Him is due the primal origin of the heavens and the earth: how can He have a son when He hath no consort? He created all things, and He hath full knowledge of all things.
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Quran 6.101 ( Surat Al-Anam , Verse 101)



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It is not befitting to (the majesty of) Allah that He should beget a son. Glory be to Him! when He determines a matter, He only says to it, "Be," and it is.
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Quran 19.35( Surat Maryam , verse 35)



They are (but) servants raised to honour


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And they say: "(Allah) Most Gracious has begotten offspring." Glory to Him! They are (but) servants raised to honour.
[27] They speak not before He speaks, and they act (in all things) by His command.
[28] He knows what is before them, and what is behind them, and they offer no intercession except for those who are acceptable, and they stand in awe and reverence of His (glory).
[29] If any of them should say, "I am a god besides Him," such a one We should reward with Hell: thus do We reward those who do wrong.
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Quran 21.26,29 ( Surat alanbya , verses 26..29)



The Jews call .., and the Christians call ....


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The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Al-Masih the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the Unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!

[31] They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords in derogation of Allah, and (they take as their Lord) Al-Masih, the son of Maryam; yet they were commanded to worship but One God: there is no god but He. Praise and glory to Him: (far is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him).

[32] Fain would they extinguish Allah's Light with their mouths, but Allah will not allow but that His Light should be perfected, even though the Unbelievers may detest (it).

[33] It is He Who hath sent His Messenger with Guidance and the Religion of Truth, to proclaim it over all religion, even though the Pagans may detest (it).

[34] O ye who believe! There are indeed many among the priests and anchorites, who in falsehood devour the substance of men and hinder (them) from the Way of Allah. And there are those who bury gold and silver and spend it not in the Way of Allah: announce unto them a most grievous penalty.
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Quran 9.32,34 ( Surat At-Touba , Verses 32..34)


If Most Gracious had a son

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Say: "If (Allah) Most Gracious had a son, I would be the first to worship." [82] Glory to the Lord of the heavens and the earth, the Lord of the Throne (of Authority)! (He is free) from the things they attribute (to Him)![83] So leave them to babble and play (with vanities) until they meet that Day of theirs, which they have been promised.
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Quran 43.81 ( Surat Azzukhruf , verses 81..83)

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Had Allah wished to take to Himself a son, He could have chosen whom He pleased out of those whom He doth create: but Glory be to Him! (He is above such things.) He is Allah, the One, the Irresistible.
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Quran 39.4 ( Surat Az-Zumar , verse 4)

They do blaspheme
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In blasphemy indeed are those that say that Allah is Al-Masih the son of Maryam. Say: "Who then hath the least power against Allah, if His Will were to destroy Al-Masih the son of Maryam, his mother, and all, everyone that is on the earth? For to Allah belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between. He createth what He pleaseth. For Allah hath power over all things."
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Quran 5.17 ( Surat Al-Mayda , verse 17)

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They do blaspheme who say: "Allah is Al-Masih the son of Maryam." But said Al-Masih: "O Children of Israel! Worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." Whoever joins other gods with Allah, Allah will forbid him the Garden, and the Fire will be his abode. There will for the wrong-doers be no one to help.
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Quran 5.72 ( Surat Al-Mayda, verse 72)

Jesus was no more than a Messenger
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Al-Masih, the son of Maryam, was no more than a Messenger; many were the Messengers that passed away before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They had both to eat their (daily) food. See how Allah doth make His Signs clear to them; yet see in what ways they are deluded away from the truth!
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Quran 5.75 ( Surat Al-Mayda, verse 75)

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He was no more than a servant: We granted Our favour to him, and We made him an example to the Children of Israel.
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Quran 43.59 (Surat Az-Zukhruf , verse 59)


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O People of the Book! commit no excesses in your religion: nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Al-Masih 'Isa the son of Maryam was (no more than) A Messenger of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Maryam, and a Spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His Messengers.
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Quran 4.171 ( Surat An-Nisaa, verse 171) .


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Al-Masih disdaineth not to serve and worship Allah, nor do the angels, those nearest (to Allah): those who disdain His worship and are arrogant, He will gather them all together unto Himself to (answer).
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Quran 4.172 ( Surat An-Nisaa, verse 172)

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It is not (possible) that a man, to whom is given the Book, and Wisdom, and the Prophetic office, should say to people: "Be ye my worshippers rather than Allah's": on the contrary (he would say): "Be ye worshippers of Him Who is truly the Cherisher of all: for ye have taught the Book and ye have studied it earnestly."
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Quran 3.79 ( Surat-Alimran , verse 79)

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They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords in derogation of Allah, and (they take as their Lord) Al-Masih, the son of Maryam; yet they were commanded to worship but One God: there is no god but He. Praise and glory to Him: (far is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him).
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Quran 9.31 ( Surat At-Tawbah, verse 31)

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The similitude of 'Isa before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him "Be": and he was.
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Quran 3.59 ( Surat Alimran , Verse 59)

O 'Isa the son of Maryam!
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And behold! Allah will say: "O 'Isa the son of Maryam! didst thou say unto men, 'Worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of Allah'?" He will say: "Glory to Thee! never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, Thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart, though I know not what is in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden.117] "Never said I to them aught except what Thou didst command me to say, to wit, 'Worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord'; and I was a witness over them whilst I dwelt amongst them; when thou didst take me up thou wast the Watcher over them, and Thou art a witness to all things.


[118] "If Thou dost punish them, they are Thy servants: if Thou dost forgive them, Thou art the Exalted in power, the Wise."119] Allah will say: "This is a day on which the truthful will profit from their truth: theirs are Gardens, with rivers flowing beneath, their eternal home: Allah well-pleased with them, and they with Allah: that is the great salvation, (The fulfilment of all desires).
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Quran 5.116 ( Surat Al-Mayda, verse 116..118)
 
Allah has no sons my dear Donnan; Allah is One without any partners [in His divinity] at all:

AL-IKHLAS (SINCERITY)

Total Verses: 4
Revealed At: MAKKA
112.1-4

Say: He is Allah, the One!
Allah, the eternally Besought of all!
He begetteth not nor was begotten.
And there is none like unto Him.


Quran 19.88..93 ( Surat Maryam , verses 88 .. 93)

They say: "(Allah) Most Gracious has begotten a son!"
[89] Indeed ye have put forth a thing most monstrous!
[90] As if the skies are ready to burst, the earth to split asunder, and the mountains to fall down in utter ruin.
[91] That they should invoke a son for (Allah) Most Gracious.
[92] For it is not consonant with the majesty of (Allah) Most Gracious that He should beget a son
[93] Not one of the beings in the heavens and the earth but must come to (Allah) Most Gracious as a servant.


......................

They say: "Allah hath begotten a son": Glory be to Him, nay, to Him belongs all that is in the heavens and on earth: everything renders worship to Him.
image004.jpg
Quran 2.116 ( Surat albakarah , verse 116)
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They say, "Allah hath begotten a son!" Glory be to Him! He is Self-Sufficient! His are all things in the heavens and on earth! No warrant have ye for this! Say ye about Allah what ye know not?
image004.jpg
Quran 10.68 ( Surat Yunus , verse 68)



What they say is nothing but falsehood !


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Further, that He may warn those (also) who say, "Allah hath begotten a son":[5] No knowledge have they of such a thing, nor had their fathers. It is a grievous thing that issues from their mouths as a saying: What they say is nothing but falsehood!
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Quran 18.4,5 ( Surat Al-Kahf , verses 4,5)



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To Him is due the primal origin of the heavens and the earth: how can He have a son when He hath no consort? He created all things, and He hath full knowledge of all things.
image004.jpg
Quran 6.101 ( Surat Al-Anam , Verse 101)



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It is not befitting to (the majesty of) Allah that He should beget a son. Glory be to Him! when He determines a matter, He only says to it, "Be," and it is.
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Quran 19.35( Surat Maryam , verse 35)



They are (but) servants raised to honour


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And they say: "(Allah) Most Gracious has begotten offspring." Glory to Him! They are (but) servants raised to honour.
[27] They speak not before He speaks, and they act (in all things) by His command.
[28] He knows what is before them, and what is behind them, and they offer no intercession except for those who are acceptable, and they stand in awe and reverence of His (glory).
[29] If any of them should say, "I am a god besides Him," such a one We should reward with Hell: thus do We reward those who do wrong.
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Quran 21.26,29 ( Surat alanbya , verses 26..29)



The Jews call .., and the Christians call ....


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The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Al-Masih the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the Unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!

[31] They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords in derogation of Allah, and (they take as their Lord) Al-Masih, the son of Maryam; yet they were commanded to worship but One God: there is no god but He. Praise and glory to Him: (far is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him).

[32] Fain would they extinguish Allah's Light with their mouths, but Allah will not allow but that His Light should be perfected, even though the Unbelievers may detest (it).

[33] It is He Who hath sent His Messenger with Guidance and the Religion of Truth, to proclaim it over all religion, even though the Pagans may detest (it).

[34] O ye who believe! There are indeed many among the priests and anchorites, who in falsehood devour the substance of men and hinder (them) from the Way of Allah. And there are those who bury gold and silver and spend it not in the Way of Allah: announce unto them a most grievous penalty.
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Quran 9.32,34 ( Surat At-Touba , Verses 32..34)


If Most Gracious had a son

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Say: "If (Allah) Most Gracious had a son, I would be the first to worship." [82] Glory to the Lord of the heavens and the earth, the Lord of the Throne (of Authority)! (He is free) from the things they attribute (to Him)![83] So leave them to babble and play (with vanities) until they meet that Day of theirs, which they have been promised.
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Quran 43.81 ( Surat Azzukhruf , verses 81..83)

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Had Allah wished to take to Himself a son, He could have chosen whom He pleased out of those whom He doth create: but Glory be to Him! (He is above such things.) He is Allah, the One, the Irresistible.
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Quran 39.4 ( Surat Az-Zumar , verse 4)

They do blaspheme
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In blasphemy indeed are those that say that Allah is Al-Masih the son of Maryam. Say: "Who then hath the least power against Allah, if His Will were to destroy Al-Masih the son of Maryam, his mother, and all, everyone that is on the earth? For to Allah belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between. He createth what He pleaseth. For Allah hath power over all things."
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Quran 5.17 ( Surat Al-Mayda , verse 17)

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They do blaspheme who say: "Allah is Al-Masih the son of Maryam." But said Al-Masih: "O Children of Israel! Worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." Whoever joins other gods with Allah, Allah will forbid him the Garden, and the Fire will be his abode. There will for the wrong-doers be no one to help.
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Quran 5.72 ( Surat Al-Mayda, verse 72)

Jesus was no more than a Messenger
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Al-Masih, the son of Maryam, was no more than a Messenger; many were the Messengers that passed away before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They had both to eat their (daily) food. See how Allah doth make His Signs clear to them; yet see in what ways they are deluded away from the truth!
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Quran 5.75 ( Surat Al-Mayda, verse 75)

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He was no more than a servant: We granted Our favour to him, and We made him an example to the Children of Israel.
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Quran 43.59 (Surat Az-Zukhruf , verse 59)


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O People of the Book! commit no excesses in your religion: nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Al-Masih 'Isa the son of Maryam was (no more than) A Messenger of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Maryam, and a Spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His Messengers.
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Quran 4.171 ( Surat An-Nisaa, verse 171) .


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Al-Masih disdaineth not to serve and worship Allah, nor do the angels, those nearest (to Allah): those who disdain His worship and are arrogant, He will gather them all together unto Himself to (answer).
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Quran 4.172 ( Surat An-Nisaa, verse 172)

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It is not (possible) that a man, to whom is given the Book, and Wisdom, and the Prophetic office, should say to people: "Be ye my worshippers rather than Allah's": on the contrary (he would say): "Be ye worshippers of Him Who is truly the Cherisher of all: for ye have taught the Book and ye have studied it earnestly."
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Quran 3.79 ( Surat-Alimran , verse 79)

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They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords in derogation of Allah, and (they take as their Lord) Al-Masih, the son of Maryam; yet they were commanded to worship but One God: there is no god but He. Praise and glory to Him: (far is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him).
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Quran 9.31 ( Surat At-Tawbah, verse 31)

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The similitude of 'Isa before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him "Be": and he was.
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Quran 3.59 ( Surat Alimran , Verse 59)

O 'Isa the son of Maryam!
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And behold! Allah will say: "O 'Isa the son of Maryam! didst thou say unto men, 'Worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of Allah'?" He will say: "Glory to Thee! never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, Thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart, though I know not what is in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden.117] "Never said I to them aught except what Thou didst command me to say, to wit, 'Worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord'; and I was a witness over them whilst I dwelt amongst them; when thou didst take me up thou wast the Watcher over them, and Thou art a witness to all things.


[118] "If Thou dost punish them, they are Thy servants: if Thou dost forgive them, Thou art the Exalted in power, the Wise."119] Allah will say: "This is a day on which the truthful will profit from their truth: theirs are Gardens, with rivers flowing beneath, their eternal home: Allah well-pleased with them, and they with Allah: that is the great salvation, (The fulfilment of all desires).
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Quran 5.116 ( Surat Al-Mayda, verse 116..118)
Ever hear of allahtu? That is what the black stone at ch0bar represents . And by the way GOD no matter what you call him is the father of all not any one specific people.
 
Ever hear of allahtu? That is what the black stone at ch0bar represents . And by the way GOD no matter what you call him is the father of all not any one specific people.

All religions texts contains the same truths you just have to interpret it with a divine mind. I believe god has ONE female counterpart like a wife so they are cocreators.

As far as sons do they not refer to Michael the Archangel as a son?
 
All religions texts contains the same truths you just have to interpret it with a divine mind. I believe god has ONE female counterpart like a wife so they are cocreators.

As far as sons do they not refer to Michael the Archangel as a son?

One more question. If you misinterpret the scriptures and label godas the devil claiming his word is telling you commit evil acts does that make a person an infidel within their own religon?
 
Stay awake or you won't know when your Lord has come. The son of man will come at a time you least expect.I am the first and I am the last the One who lives ,once I died but now I live forever and ever.The spirit of the Lord is upon me ; He has anointed me.

Thus says the Lord the Holy One of Israel;

"Open up the gates to let in a nation that is just, one that keeps faith.

No one acts justly, no one speaks truthfully, they refuse to recognize me.

The way of the just is smooth; the path of the just is level.

The Lords counsel is wonderful and His wisdom is great.
The deaf shall hear the words of a book; And out of gloom and darkness, the eyes of the blind shall see.
They shall keep my name holy; they shall reverence the Holy One of Jacob, and be in awe of the God of Israel.

A king will reign justly and princes will rule rightly.

Justice will bring about peace; right will produce calm and security.

Who of us can live with the consuming fire? who of us can live with the everlasting flames? He who does what is right and speaks the truth.

Look in the book of the Lord and read: No one of these shall be lacking, For the mouth of the Lord has ordered it, and his spirit shall gather them there.

Here is my servant, whom I uphold, my chosen one with whom I am pleased; upon whom I have put my Spirit, he will proclaim justice to the nations.”

Turn to me and be safe, all you ends of the earth, for I am God; there is no other!
By myself I swear, uttering my just decree and my unalterable word: To me every knee shall bend; by me every tongue shall swear,saying, Only in the Lord are just deeds and power.
In the Lord shall be the vindication and the glory of all the descendants of Israel.

I am God, there is no other; I am God, there is none like me.
At the beginning I foretell the outcome; in advance, things not yet done. I say that my plan shall stand, I accomplish my every purpose. I call from the east a bird of prey, from a distant land, one to carry out my plan. Yes, I have spoken, I will accomplish it; I have planned it, and I will do it. I will put salvation within Zion, and give to Israel my glory.
My glory I will not give to another.
 
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