Was JESUS the only heavenly being to incarnate into the human community from heaven?

[Etu Malku]

Re: Was JESUS the only heavenly being to incarnate into the human community from heav

I am not interested in discussion either.

I am interested in creating situations where others can experience the ultimate, that is all. You wish to remain confined to mind, what I have to share is impossible within that restriction.

You need your own forum then, because we are here to discuss and relate, not preach our own gospels.

 

[Lunitik]

Re: Was JESUS the only heavenly being to incarnate into the human community from heav

Ok, explain why there is no individuality.

I have provided devices to show you its truth, why explain? Words are not going to do much to assist you in understanding. You will have to transcend duality to recognize it, would you like me to present again a device?

I do not think you are ready to do anything meaningful with the device, so I do not see much use in it, but we can try.

 

[seattlegal]

Re: Was JESUS the only heavenly being to incarnate into the human community from heav

Ok, explain why there is no individuality.

Inquiring minds want to know!

 

[Lunitik]

Re: Was JESUS the only heavenly being to incarnate into the human community from heav

In this case, I would count that as a good thing!

It is not at all...

Isn't that what I said?

No.

I see. You are allowed to use your mind to make judgements, but we are not?

You are allowed, but they will cause you to err.

 

[Lunitik]

Re: Was JESUS the only heavenly being to incarnate into the human community from heav

You need your own forum then, because we are here to discuss and relate, not preach our own gospels.

I have no gospel.

I am interested in relating through what is useful in each faith, I am not interested in discussing what is irrelevant.

 

[Quahom1]

Re: Was JESUS the only heavenly being to incarnate into the human community from heav

[/QUOTE]Every "enlightened" person here at IO, has learned to watch their P's and Q's. Why don't you join us?

v/r

Q
Moderator

 

[Lunitik]

Re: Was JESUS the only heavenly being to incarnate into the human community from heav

Every "enlightened" person here at IO, has learned to watch their P's and Q's. Why don't you join us?

v/r

Q
Moderator

How about you check others insulting me, then you can come at me for my responses to that... otherwise you are nothing but a hypocrite.

 

[Etu Malku]

Re: Was JESUS the only heavenly being to incarnate into the human community from heav

I have provided devices to show you its truth, why explain? Words are not going to do much to assist you in understanding. You will have to transcend duality to recognize it, would you like me to present again a device?

I do not think you are ready to do anything meaningful with the device, so I do not see much use in it, but we can try.

Sure, that would be helpful

 

[Etu Malku]

Re: Was JESUS the only heavenly being to incarnate into the human community from heav

How about you check others insulting me, then you can come at me for my responses to that... otherwise you are nothing but a hypocrite.

my comment was unnecessary. . .

 

[Lunitik]

Re: Was JESUS the only heavenly being to incarnate into the human community from heav

Sure, that would be helpful

As a contemplation:

Bring all dualities together, and in their meeting allow them to annihilate one another.

Love/Hate
Life/Death
Go through them all and allow them to disintegrate.

What remains?

Chances are you have allowed inward and outward to remain, god and self, object and subject.

Are these also dualities?

What remains if these are also annihilated?

 

[Lunitik]

Re: Was JESUS the only heavenly being to incarnate into the human community from heav

If you return with an answer, you are wrong.

If you are finished, something will happen... if nothing does, you have forgotten a duality or have not really gone into the contemplation deeply. There will come a point where it feels your mind is running off its hinges, allow that... it means you are headed towards truth.

 

[Etu Malku]

Re: Was JESUS the only heavenly being to incarnate into the human community from heav

As a contemplation:

Bring all dualities together, and in their meeting allow them to annihilate one another.

Love/Hate
Life/Death
Go through them all and allow them to disintegrate.

What remains?

Chances are you have allowed inward and outward to remain, god and self, object and subject.

Are these also dualities?

What remains if these are also annihilated?

Ok, but first I can't understand dualities as you see them, to me they are opposites, they are polar extremes, therefore it is not like Matter & Antimatter destroying itself, they ARE themself, only polar extremes.

 

[Quahom1]

Re: Was JESUS the only heavenly being to incarnate into the human community from heav

How about you check others insulting me, then you can come at me for my responses to that... otherwise you are nothing but a hypocrite.

I am not being critical. It was a suggestion, considering you have a great deal to express. However I think your ability to express your thoughts would be enhanced if you felt a bit calmer...


v/r

Q

 

[Lunitik]

Re: Was JESUS the only heavenly being to incarnate into the human community from heav

Ok, but first I can't understand dualities as you see them, to me they are opposites, they are polar extremes, therefore it is not like Matter & Antimatter destroying itself, they ARE themself, only polar extremes.

What is matter and anti-matter?

They are naught but the positive and negative aspect of matter - they are opposites, a duality.

All dualities balance each other out, -1+1=0 ... nirvana means nothingness, you are to arrive at the absolute zero of reality. What is the nature of that? It is truth, but what is that truth?

Go into it and see.

 

[Lunitik]

Re: Was JESUS the only heavenly being to incarnate into the human community from heav

I am not being critical. It was a suggestion, considering you have a great deal to express. However I think your ability to express your thoughts would be enhanced if you felt a bit calmer...


v/r

Q

I am perfectly calm, but your perception is purposeful... if people merely acknowledge, nothing can happen. There has to be a certain response for any transformation to happen - they have to be invested in some way, whether their investment is for or against is irrelevant.

If they merely read and acknowledge, I am wasting my time utterly.

 

[Etu Malku]

Re: Was JESUS the only heavenly being to incarnate into the human community from heav

What is matter and anti-matter?

They are naught but the positive and negative aspect of matter - they are opposites, a duality.

All dualities balance each other out, -1+1=0 ... nirvana means nothingness, you are to arrive at the absolute zero of reality. What is the nature of that? It is truth, but what is that truth?

Go into it and see.

Matter and antimatter are not exact mirror images of each other, after the Big Bang, energy was transformed into matter and antimatter in equal proportions. They are not opposites of one another, nor polar extremes, they are two different things that when they collide they destroy one another and create energy.

 

[Quahom1]

Re: Was JESUS the only heavenly being to incarnate into the human community from heav

I am perfectly calm, but your perception is purposeful... if people merely acknowledge, nothing can happen. There has to be a certain response for any transformation to happen - they have to be invested in some way, whether their investment is for or against is irrelevant.

If they merely read and acknowledge, I am wasting my time utterly.

Indeed, I am a watcher...

v/r

Q

 

[Lunitik]

Re: Was JESUS the only heavenly being to incarnate into the human community from heav

Matter and antimatter are not exact mirror images of each other, after the Big Bang, energy was transformed into matter and antimatter in equal proportions. They are not opposites of one another, nor polar extremes, they are two different things that when they collide they destroy one another and create energy.

They are a way for existence to balance itself.

Good and bad also are in equal proportion, as is love and hate, war and peace, rich and poor, life and death, everything in reality is exactly in proportion, utterly interconnected. If you increase one, the other must increase as well, it is a fundamental law.

All must be dropped to find truth, because all of this is impermanent - constantly changing, in flux. Truth is that which is permanent, this is what I am trying to cause you to find.

 

[seattlegal]

Re: Was JESUS the only heavenly being to incarnate into the human community from heav

What is matter and anti-matter?

They are naught but the positive and negative aspect of matter - they are opposites, a duality.

All dualities balance each other out, -1+1=0 ... nirvana means nothingness, you are to arrive at the absolute zero of reality. What is the nature of that? It is truth, but what is that truth?

Go into it and see.

Matter and antimatter are not exact mirror images of each other, after the Big Bang, energy was transformed into matter and antimatter in equal proportions. They are not opposites of one another, nor polar extremes, they are two different things that when they collide they destroy one another and create energy.

Um, I would speculate that they were not created in equal proportions--matter was clearly in excess over anti-matter. If they were in equal proportions, our universe would likely be just a soup of radiation from all the matter and anti-matter cancelling each other out. I could be wrong, though.

Radarmark! We need your expert advice here!

 

[seattlegal]

Re: Was JESUS the only heavenly being to incarnate into the human community from heav

They are a way for existence to balance itself.

Good and bad also are in equal proportion, as is love and hate, war and peace, rich and poor, life and death, everything in reality is exactly in proportion, utterly interconnected. If you increase one, the other must increase as well, it is a fundamental law.

I don't agree with this, either. It only takes one drop of poison to pollute a whole glassful of water.

All must be dropped to find truth, because all of this is impermanent - constantly changing, in flux. Truth is that which is permanent, this is what I am trying to cause you to find.

Exactly what do you mean by truth? Being accurate in representation, or Dharma/Dhamma/Maat, or simply "permanence?"