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In the Tarot, the Fifteenth Arcanum, The Devil, the basic image is of two people, a man and a woman, bound in chains to a central winged figure which is usually taken to be 'the Devil' as is commonly understood.

It’s worth noting that in the demonic orders there are not only the fallen entities of the celestial hierarchies (with the exception of Seraphim) but also of entities of non-hierarchical origin, ie. entities who derive their origin not from a spiritual but a mental source.

In Tibetan mystical practice, we find the phenomenon of the conscious practice of the creation and destruction of demons, or tulpas, as they are known.

This practice derives from the occult training of the will and imagination. The training consists of three parts: the creation of tulpas through concentrated and directed imagination, then their evocation and, lastly, the freeing of consciousness from their hold on it by an act of knowledge which destroys them – through which it is realised that they are only a creation of the imagination, and therefore illusory.

The aim of this training is therefore to arrive at a disbelief in demons after having created them through the force of imagination and having confronted their terrifying apprehension.

Alexandra David-Neel, who wrote with a deep knowledge of the subject, said:
"I have questioned several lamas on this subject (of incredulity). “Incredulity comes sometimes,” answered a geshes (graduate) from Derge (a town in Kham, Eastern Tibet). “Indeed, it is one of the ultimate objects of the mystic masters, but if the disciple reaches this state of mind before the proper time he misses something which these exercises are designed to develop, that is fearlessness. Moreover, the teachers do not approve of simple incredulity, they deem it contrary to truth. The disciple must understand that gods and demons do really exist for those who believe in their existence, and that they are possessed with the power of benefitting or harming those who worship or fear them. However, very few reach incredulity in the early part of their training. Most novices actually see frightful apparitions.”

(She assumed that ‘He who does not believe in demons would never be killed by them’, but was instructed otherwise: ‘According to that it must also follow that a man who does not believe in the existence of tigers may feel confident that none of them would ever hurt him even if he were confronted by such a beast.’)

“Visualising mental formations, either voluntarily or not, is a most mysterious process. What becomes of these creations? May it not be that like children born of our flesh, these children of our mind separate their lives from ours, escape our control, and play parts of their own? Must we not also consider that we are not the only ones capable of creating such formations? And if such entities (tulpas, magical creatures) exist in the world, are we not liable to come into touch with them, either by the will of their maker or from some other cause? Could one of these causes not be that, through our mind or through our material deeds, we bring about the conditions in which these entities are capable of manifesting some kind of activity?. . .One must know how to protect oneself against the tigers to which one has given birth, as well as against those that have been begotten by others.”
(Alexandra David-Neel, Magic and Mystery in Tibet, London, 1967, pp. 146-148)

The French magician Eliphas Levi saw in demons – such as incubi and succubi – only creations of human will and imagination, projecting, individually or collectively, their content into the malleable substance of the ‘astral light’ and thus engendering demons, which are therefore engendered in Europe in exactly the same way as the Tibetan tulpas.

The art and method of ‘making idols’, forbidden by the Second Commandments, is ancient and universal. It seems that at all times and everywhere demons have been engendered.

Both Eliphas Levi and the Tibetan masters are in agreement not only with respect to the subjective and psychological origin of demons but also with respect to their objective existence. Engendered subjectively, they become forces independent of the subjective consciousness which engendered them. They are, in other words, ‘magical creations’, for magic is the objectification of that which takes its origin in subjective consciousness.

Demons that have not arrived at the stage of objectification, ie. at that of an existence separate from the psychic life of their parents, have a semi-autonomous existence which is designated in modern psychology by the term ‘psychological complex'. C. G. Jung regarded these as parasitic entities, which are to the psychic organism what, for example, cancer is to the physical organism. A psychopathological ‘complex’ is therefore a demon, when it has not come from outside but is engendered by the patient himself. In its state of gestation it is still not born, but it certainly has an almost autonomous life of its own, nourished by the psychic life of its parent. C. G. Jung said on this subject:
“It appears as an autonomous formation intruding upon consciousness... It is just as if the complex were an autonomous being capable of interfering with the intentions of the ego. Complexes do indeed behave like secondary or partial personalities possessing a mental life of their own. (C. G. Jung, Psychology and Religion; trsl. R. F. C. Hull, The Collected Works of C. G. Jung, vol. 11, London, 1958, pp. 13-14)

Such an ‘autonomous being, capable of interfering with the intentions of the ego’ and which ‘possesses a mental life of its own’ is nothing other than what antiquity understands by the term ‘demon’.

How are demons engendered? They are the misbegotten fruit of the will and the imagination, born in the psychic life of an individual. A desire that is perverse or contrary to nature, followed by the corresponding imagination, together constitute the act of generation of a demon.

As regards the Card of the Fifteenth Arcanum, the two personages, the one male and the other female, attached to the pedestal of the central personage of the card are not fallen humanity in thrall to the Devil, as one might be tempted to believe (excuse the pun). Rather, on the contrary, it is they who are the parents of the demon and they have subsequently become enslaved by their own creation. They represent perverse will and imagination (both have horns representing mental activity) contrary to nature, which have given birth to an androgynous demon, ie. to a psychic entity endowed with desire and imagination, which dominates the forces that engendered it.

With respect to generation effected collectively, known by the term egregore – is likewise the product of will and imagination, which in this case are collective.

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The function of the shaman, and the sin-eater, is closely associated with this.

The role of the logismoi in Orthodox psychology is also closely associated with this process.
 
Nicely written, your demons are your creations. They are your unwanted emotions, what you hate and fear about your self. They are the judgments you made about your self. They are your lack of worthiness, that you believe to me true. The only cure for dilemma, is to love yourself. These creation, these children of consciousness, will not come home until they have a safe home. A home with out judgment, a home of compassion. Until then, they will kick scream and curse the god that created them. You really can't blame them, they are just being what you asked them to be. So you could say that they are just do what you asked them to do, and out of love for you they play out the part.
 
I don't know whether your ideas are exactly what demons are, but I have spoken to people where demons pushed them against the ceiling, pull their duvet off their bed, let a person play a piano like a professional even though this person cannot play piano.... I do not consider that imaginations... those who indulge in the occults also know that demons are real and expects obedience from their followers. At the end of the day we are either with the light or the darkness, there are no other options. I believe we should search the Truth, for there can only be one not many truths on the same subject... just my experience and thoughts... :)
 
I put demons and angels together...


In Unity, imagination and will are two of the 12 spiritual powers that Unity co-founder Charles Fillmore believed God gave to each person. Fillmore outlined these powers in his 1930 book, The Twelve Powers of Man, and believed that people could use these powers to create the lives they wanted...for me devoid of imaginary beings controlling things.

To me it isn't a demon whispering in my ear, but me making decisions and wanting to blame something else.

Similar to stars light years away somehow controlling my life. I like the Comedian who asks potential dates their astrological sign....if they know their sun and moon and rising signs...he doesn't date them.

Me too.
 
I put demons and angels together...


In Unity, imagination and will are two of the 12 spiritual powers that Unity co-founder Charles Fillmore believed God gave to each person. Fillmore outlined these powers in his 1930 book, The Twelve Powers of Man, and believed that people could use these powers to create the lives they wanted...for me devoid of imaginary beings controlling things.

To me it isn't a demon whispering in my ear, but me making decisions and wanting to blame something else.

Similar to stars light years away somehow controlling my life. I like the Comedian who asks potential dates their astrological sign....if they know their sun and moon and rising signs...he doesn't date them.

Me too.
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In de Tarot bestaat het Vijftiende Arcanum, De Duivel, uit twee personen, een man en een vrouw, die met kettingen vastgebonden zijn aan een centrale gevleugelde figuur. Deze wordt doorgaans voor 'de Duivel' aangezien.

Het is opmerkelijk dat er in de demonische orden niet alleen gevallen entiteiten van de hemelse hiërarchieën zijn (met uitzondering van de serafijnen), maar ook entiteiten van niet-hiërarchische oorsprong, dat wil zeggen entiteiten die hun oorsprong niet uit een spirituele, maar uit een mentale bron ontlenen.

In de Tibetaanse mystieke praktijk vinden we het fenomeen van de bewuste beoefening van het creëren en vernietigen van demonen, of tulpa's , zoals ze worden genoemd.

Deze praktijk is afgeleid van de occulte training van de wil en de verbeelding. De training bestaat uit drie delen: de creatie van tulpa's door geconcentreerde en gerichte verbeelding, vervolgens hun evocatie en, ten slotte, de bevrijding van het bewustzijn van hun greep erop door een daad van kennis die ze vernietigt - waardoor men zich realiseert dat ze slechts een creatie van de verbeelding zijn, en daarom illusoir.

Het doel van deze training is dan ook om te komen tot een ongeloof in demonen, nadat je ze door de kracht van de verbeelding hebt gecreëerd en hun angstaanjagende angst hebt onder ogen gezien.

Alexandra David-Neel, die schreef met een diepgaande kennis van het onderwerp, zei:
"Ik heb meerdere lama's ondervraagd over dit onderwerp (van ongeloof). "Ongeloof komt soms," antwoordde een geshes (afgestudeerde) uit Derge (een stad in Kham, Oost-Tibet). "Het is inderdaad een van de ultieme doelen van de mystieke meesters, maar als de discipel deze gemoedstoestand bereikt vóór de juiste tijd, mist hij iets dat deze oefeningen zijn ontworpen om te ontwikkelen, namelijk onverschrokkenheid. Bovendien keuren de leraren eenvoudige ongeloof niet goed, ze achten het in strijd met de waarheid. De discipel moet begrijpen dat goden en demonen echt bestaan voor degenen die in hun bestaan geloven, en dat ze bezeten zijn met de macht om degenen die hen aanbidden of vrezen te bevoordelen of te schaden. Echter, zeer weinigen bereiken ongeloof in het vroege deel van hun training. De meeste beginners zien daadwerkelijk angstaanjagende verschijningen."

(Zij ging ervan uit dat 'iemand die niet in demonen gelooft, nooit door hen gedood zal worden', maar kreeg een andere instructie: 'Daaruit volgt ook dat een man die niet in het bestaan van tijgers gelooft, er vertrouwen in kan hebben dat geen van hen hem ooit kwaad zal doen, zelfs niet als hij met zo'n beest geconfronteerd wordt.')

“Het visualiseren van mentale formaties, vrijwillig of onvrijwillig, is een uiterst mysterieus proces. Wat gebeurt er met deze creaties? Zou het niet zo kunnen zijn dat deze kinderen van onze geest, net als kinderen die uit ons vlees geboren zijn, hun leven van het onze scheiden, aan onze controle ontsnappen en hun eigen rol spelen? Moeten we niet ook bedenken dat wij niet de enigen zijn die in staat zijn om zulke formaties te creëren? En als zulke entiteiten (tulpas, magische wezens) in de wereld bestaan, zijn wij dan niet geneigd om met hen in contact te komen, hetzij door de wil van hun maker of door een andere oorzaak? Zou een van deze oorzaken niet kunnen zijn dat wij, door onze geest of door onze materiële daden, de omstandigheden teweegbrengen waarin deze entiteiten in staat zijn om een of andere vorm van activiteit te manifesteren? . . Men moet weten hoe men zichzelf kan beschermen tegen de tijgers die men zelf heeft gebaard, en ook tegen die welke door anderen zijn verwekt.”
(Alexandra David-Neel, Magie en mysterie in Tibet , Londen, 1967, pp. 146-148)

De Franse magiër Eliphas Levi zag in demonen – zoals incubi en succubi – enkel creaties van de menselijke wil en verbeelding, die individueel of collectief hun inhoud projecteerden in de kneedbare substantie van het ‘astrale licht’ en zo demonen voortbrachten, die dan ook in Europa op precies dezelfde manier worden voortgebracht als de Tibetaanse tulpa’s .

De kunst en methode van 'het maken van afgoden', verboden door de Tweede Geboden, is oud en universeel. Het lijkt erop dat er te allen tijde en overal demonen zijn ontstaan.

Zowel Eliphas Levi als de Tibetaanse meesters zijn het niet alleen eens over de subjectieve en psychologische oorsprong van demonen, maar ook over hun objectieve bestaan. Subjectief voortgebracht, worden ze krachten die onafhankelijk zijn van het subjectieve bewustzijn dat hen voortbracht. Ze zijn, met andere woorden, 'magische creaties', want magie is de objectivering van datgene wat zijn oorsprong vindt in het subjectieve bewustzijn.

Demonen die nog niet in het stadium van objectivering zijn aangekomen, d.w.z. in dat van een bestaan dat losstaat van het psychische leven van hun ouders, hebben een semi-autonoom bestaan dat in de moderne psychologie wordt aangeduid met de term 'psychologisch complex'. CG Jung beschouwde deze als parasitaire entiteiten, die voor het psychische organisme zijn wat bijvoorbeeld kanker is voor het fysieke organisme. Een psychopathologisch 'complex' is daarom een demon, wanneer het niet van buitenaf is gekomen, maar door de patiënt zelf is verwekt. In zijn zwangerschapsstadium is het nog niet geboren, maar het heeft zeker een bijna autonoom eigen leven, gevoed door het psychische leven van zijn ouder. CG Jung zei hierover:
“Het verschijnt als een autonome formatie die het bewustzijn binnendringt... Het is net alsof het complex een autonoom wezen is dat in staat is om in te grijpen in de intenties van het ego. Complexen gedragen zich inderdaad als secundaire of gedeeltelijke persoonlijkheden die een eigen mentaal leven bezitten. (CG Jung, Psychology and Religion ; vertaling RFC Hull, The Collected Works of CG Jung , vol. 11, Londen, 1958, pp. 13-14)

Een dergelijk 'autonoom wezen, dat in staat is in te grijpen in de bedoelingen van het ego' en dat 'een eigen mentaal leven bezit', is niets anders dan wat de oudheid verstaat onder de term 'demon'.

Hoe worden demonen verwekt? Ze zijn de misbegoopte vrucht van de wil en de verbeelding, geboren in het psychische leven van een individu. Een verlangen dat pervers of tegengesteld is aan de natuur, gevolgd door de corresponderende verbeelding, vormen samen de daad van het genereren van een demon.

Wat betreft de Kaart van het Vijftiende Arcanum, zijn de twee personages, de ene mannelijk en de andere vrouwelijk, die aan het voetstuk van het centrale personage van de kaart zijn bevestigd, niet de gevallen mensheid die in slavernij is van de Duivel, zoals men geneigd zou kunnen zijn te geloven (excuseer de woordspeling). Integendeel, het zijn zij die de ouders van de demon zijn en die vervolgens tot slaaf zijn gemaakt door hun eigen schepping. Ze vertegenwoordigen een perverse wil en verbeelding (beide hebben horens die mentale activiteit vertegenwoordigen) die in strijd zijn met de natuur, die het leven hebben geschonken aan een androgyne demon, d.w.z. aan een psychische entiteit die is begiftigd met verlangen en verbeelding, die de krachten domineert die hem hebben voortgebracht.

Met betrekking tot de generatie die collectief tot stand komt, bekend onder de term egregore , is het eveneens het product van wil en verbeelding, die in dit geval collectief zijn.

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De functie van de sjamaan en de zondeneter zijn hier nauw mee verbonden.

De rol van het logismoi in de orthodoxe psychologie is ook nauw verbonden met dit proces.

In the Tarot, the Fifteenth Arcanum, The Devil, the basic image is of two people, a man and a woman, bound in chains to a central winged figure which is usually taken to be 'the Devil' as is commonly understood.

It’s worth noting that in the demonic orders there are not only the fallen entities of the celestial hierarchies (with the exception of Seraphim) but also of entities of non-hierarchical origin, ie. entities who derive their origin not from a spiritual but a mental source.

In Tibetan mystical practice, we find the phenomenon of the conscious practice of the creation and destruction of demons, or tulpas, as they are known.

This practice derives from the occult training of the will and imagination. The training consists of three parts: the creation of tulpas through concentrated and directed imagination, then their evocation and, lastly, the freeing of consciousness from their hold on it by an act of knowledge which destroys them – through which it is realised that they are only a creation of the imagination, and therefore illusory.

The aim of this training is therefore to arrive at a disbelief in demons after having created them through the force of imagination and having confronted their terrifying apprehension.

Alexandra David-Neel, who wrote with a deep knowledge of the subject, said:
"I have questioned several lamas on this subject (of incredulity). “Incredulity comes sometimes,” answered a geshes (graduate) from Derge (a town in Kham, Eastern Tibet). “Indeed, it is one of the ultimate objects of the mystic masters, but if the disciple reaches this state of mind before the proper time he misses something which these exercises are designed to develop, that is fearlessness. Moreover, the teachers do not approve of simple incredulity, they deem it contrary to truth. The disciple must understand that gods and demons do really exist for those who believe in their existence, and that they are possessed with the power of benefitting or harming those who worship or fear them. However, very few reach incredulity in the early part of their training. Most novices actually see frightful apparitions.”

(She assumed that ‘He who does not believe in demons would never be killed by them’, but was instructed otherwise: ‘According to that it must also follow that a man who does not believe in the existence of tigers may feel confident that none of them would ever hurt him even if he were confronted by such a beast.’)

“Visualising mental formations, either voluntarily or not, is a most mysterious process. What becomes of these creations? May it not be that like children born of our flesh, these children of our mind separate their lives from ours, escape our control, and play parts of their own? Must we not also consider that we are not the only ones capable of creating such formations? And if such entities (tulpas, magical creatures) exist in the world, are we not liable to come into touch with them, either by the will of their maker or from some other cause? Could one of these causes not be that, through our mind or through our material deeds, we bring about the conditions in which these entities are capable of manifesting some kind of activity?. . .One must know how to protect oneself against the tigers to which one has given birth, as well as against those that have been begotten by others.”
(Alexandra David-Neel, Magic and Mystery in Tibet, London, 1967, pp. 146-148)

The French magician Eliphas Levi saw in demons – such as incubi and succubi – only creations of human will and imagination, projecting, individually or collectively, their content into the malleable substance of the ‘astral light’ and thus engendering demons, which are therefore engendered in Europe in exactly the same way as the Tibetan tulpas.

The art and method of ‘making idols’, forbidden by the Second Commandments, is ancient and universal. It seems that at all times and everywhere demons have been engendered.

Both Eliphas Levi and the Tibetan masters are in agreement not only with respect to the subjective and psychological origin of demons but also with respect to their objective existence. Engendered subjectively, they become forces independent of the subjective consciousness which engendered them. They are, in other words, ‘magical creations’, for magic is the objectification of that which takes its origin in subjective consciousness.

Demons that have not arrived at the stage of objectification, ie. at that of an existence separate from the psychic life of their parents, have a semi-autonomous existence which is designated in modern psychology by the term ‘psychological complex'. C. G. Jung regarded these as parasitic entities, which are to the psychic organism what, for example, cancer is to the physical organism. A psychopathological ‘complex’ is therefore a demon, when it has not come from outside but is engendered by the patient himself. In its state of gestation it is still not born, but it certainly has an almost autonomous life of its own, nourished by the psychic life of its parent. C. G. Jung said on this subject:
“It appears as an autonomous formation intruding upon consciousness... It is just as if the complex were an autonomous being capable of interfering with the intentions of the ego. Complexes do indeed behave like secondary or partial personalities possessing a mental life of their own. (C. G. Jung, Psychology and Religion; trsl. R. F. C. Hull, The Collected Works of C. G. Jung, vol. 11, London, 1958, pp. 13-14)

Such an ‘autonomous being, capable of interfering with the intentions of the ego’ and which ‘possesses a mental life of its own’ is nothing other than what antiquity understands by the term ‘demon’.

How are demons engendered? They are the misbegotten fruit of the will and the imagination, born in the psychic life of an individual. A desire that is perverse or contrary to nature, followed by the corresponding imagination, together constitute the act of generation of a demon.

As regards the Card of the Fifteenth Arcanum, the two personages, the one male and the other female, attached to the pedestal of the central personage of the card are not fallen humanity in thrall to the Devil, as one might be tempted to believe (excuse the pun). Rather, on the contrary, it is they who are the parents of the demon and they have subsequently become enslaved by their own creation. They represent perverse will and imagination (both have horns representing mental activity) contrary to nature, which have given birth to an androgynous demon, ie. to a psychic entity endowed with desire and imagination, which dominates the forces that engendered it.

With respect to generation effected collectively, known by the term egregore – is likewise the product of will and imagination, which in this case are collective.

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The function of the shaman, and the sin-eater, is closely associated with this.

The role of the logismoi in Orthodox psychology is also closely associated with this process.
We must dare to 'think' a little further.
I think it is a well written piece.

Demons are not lower part but our conscience. It is a challenge.
To face our fears. It looks like something wrong we do but that is not necessary.
I suggest to look in your horoscope and elements. That's all. Do we need to be of the first ray of will and power? Is this for all Ray's?

I think the first ray people learn to deal with life and death . And powers like mind power or create your will understanding it already existed otherwise you were not able to think about it means someone calls you like alarm you like ' wake up'.
Be more playfully. Have more guts and know fear is useless. We are all one so part of that one we live in, with and outside to see as proof it exist and it is not just your imagination.
 
I don't know whether your ideas are exactly what demons are, but I have spoken to people where demons pushed them against the ceiling, pull their duvet off their bed, let a person play a piano like a professional even though this person cannot play piano.... I do not consider that imaginations... those who indulge in the occults also know that demons are real and expects obedience from their followers. At the end of the day we are either with the light or the darkness, there are no other options. I believe we should search the Truth, for there can only be one not many truths on the same subject... just my experience and thoughts... :)
Demons must not be considered as something lower or lower. They show us something. We must be willing to learn and overcome our fears. Smile at a demon and they leave so extreme peacefully. I think Judas turned In a demon than later he regret it.
 
I put demons and angels together...


In Unity, imagination and will are two of the 12 spiritual powers that Unity co-founder Charles Fillmore believed God gave to each person. Fillmore outlined these powers in his 1930 book, The Twelve Powers of Man, and believed that people could use these powers to create the lives they wanted...for me devoid of imaginary beings controlling things.

To me it isn't a demon whispering in my ear, but me making decisions and wanting to blame something else.

Similar to stars light years away somehow controlling my life. I like the Comedian who asks potential dates their astrological sign....if they know their sun and moon and rising signs...he doesn't date them.

Me too.
I forgot what made free will so important. But now I remember it so well. We can choose and have a free will.
 
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In the Tarot, the Fifteenth Arcanum, The Devil, the basic image is of two people, a man and a woman, bound in chains to a central winged figure which is usually taken to be 'the Devil' as is commonly understood.

It’s worth noting that in the demonic orders there are not only the fallen entities of the celestial hierarchies (with the exception of Seraphim) but also of entities of non-hierarchical origin, ie. entities who derive their origin not from a spiritual but a mental source.

In Tibetan mystical practice, we find the phenomenon of the conscious practice of the creation and destruction of demons, or tulpas, as they are known.

This practice derives from the occult training of the will and imagination. The training consists of three parts: the creation of tulpas through concentrated and directed imagination, then their evocation and, lastly, the freeing of consciousness from their hold on it by an act of knowledge which destroys them – through which it is realised that they are only a creation of the imagination, and therefore illusory.

The aim of this training is therefore to arrive at a disbelief in demons after having created them through the force of imagination and having confronted their terrifying apprehension.

Alexandra David-Neel, who wrote with a deep knowledge of the subject, said:
"I have questioned several lamas on this subject (of incredulity). “Incredulity comes sometimes,” answered a geshes (graduate) from Derge (a town in Kham, Eastern Tibet). “Indeed, it is one of the ultimate objects of the mystic masters, but if the disciple reaches this state of mind before the proper time he misses something which these exercises are designed to develop, that is fearlessness. Moreover, the teachers do not approve of simple incredulity, they deem it contrary to truth. The disciple must understand that gods and demons do really exist for those who believe in their existence, and that they are possessed with the power of benefitting or harming those who worship or fear them. However, very few reach incredulity in the early part of their training. Most novices actually see frightful apparitions.”

(She assumed that ‘He who does not believe in demons would never be killed by them’, but was instructed otherwise: ‘According to that it must also follow that a man who does not believe in the existence of tigers may feel confident that none of them would ever hurt him even if he were confronted by such a beast.’)

“Visualising mental formations, either voluntarily or not, is a most mysterious process. What becomes of these creations? May it not be that like children born of our flesh, these children of our mind separate their lives from ours, escape our control, and play parts of their own? Must we not also consider that we are not the only ones capable of creating such formations? And if such entities (tulpas, magical creatures) exist in the world, are we not liable to come into touch with them, either by the will of their maker or from some other cause? Could one of these causes not be that, through our mind or through our material deeds, we bring about the conditions in which these entities are capable of manifesting some kind of activity?. . .One must know how to protect oneself against the tigers to which one has given birth, as well as against those that have been begotten by others.”
(Alexandra David-Neel, Magic and Mystery in Tibet, London, 1967, pp. 146-148)

The French magician Eliphas Levi saw in demons – such as incubi and succubi – only creations of human will and imagination, projecting, individually or collectively, their content into the malleable substance of the ‘astral light’ and thus engendering demons, which are therefore engendered in Europe in exactly the same way as the Tibetan tulpas.

The art and method of ‘making idols’, forbidden by the Second Commandments, is ancient and universal. It seems that at all times and everywhere demons have been engendered.

Both Eliphas Levi and the Tibetan masters are in agreement not only with respect to the subjective and psychological origin of demons but also with respect to their objective existence. Engendered subjectively, they become forces independent of the subjective consciousness which engendered them. They are, in other words, ‘magical creations’, for magic is the objectification of that which takes its origin in subjective consciousness.

Demons that have not arrived at the stage of objectification, ie. at that of an existence separate from the psychic life of their parents, have a semi-autonomous existence which is designated in modern psychology by the term ‘psychological complex'. C. G. Jung regarded these as parasitic entities, which are to the psychic organism what, for example, cancer is to the physical organism. A psychopathological ‘complex’ is therefore a demon, when it has not come from outside but is engendered by the patient himself. In its state of gestation it is still not born, but it certainly has an almost autonomous life of its own, nourished by the psychic life of its parent. C. G. Jung said on this subject:
“It appears as an autonomous formation intruding upon consciousness... It is just as if the complex were an autonomous being capable of interfering with the intentions of the ego. Complexes do indeed behave like secondary or partial personalities possessing a mental life of their own. (C. G. Jung, Psychology and Religion; trsl. R. F. C. Hull, The Collected Works of C. G. Jung, vol. 11, London, 1958, pp. 13-14)

Such an ‘autonomous being, capable of interfering with the intentions of the ego’ and which ‘possesses a mental life of its own’ is nothing other than what antiquity understands by the term ‘demon’.

How are demons engendered? They are the misbegotten fruit of the will and the imagination, born in the psychic life of an individual. A desire that is perverse or contrary to nature, followed by the corresponding imagination, together constitute the act of generation of a demon.

As regards the Card of the Fifteenth Arcanum, the two personages, the one male and the other female, attached to the pedestal of the central personage of the card are not fallen humanity in thrall to the Devil, as one might be tempted to believe (excuse the pun). Rather, on the contrary, it is they who are the parents of the demon and they have subsequently become enslaved by their own creation. They represent perverse will and imagination (both have horns representing mental activity) contrary to nature, which have given birth to an androgynous demon, ie. to a psychic entity endowed with desire and imagination, which dominates the forces that engendered it.

With respect to generation effected collectively, known by the term egregore – is likewise the product of will and imagination, which in this case are collective.

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The function of the shaman, and the sin-eater, is closely associated with this.

The role of the logismoi in Orthodox psychology is also closely associated with this process.
Illuminated initiates are taught that the 15th Arcanum (dimensional degree) is:

Time as it passes to you (East)

Horns represent phase conjugated vortices of the internal/external perception within the ancient geometric structure commonly referred to as "The philosophers stone". The first 14 dimensional degrees (arcanum) of "mind" that the Freemasons refer to as the "Lodge of perfection"

The 15th represents the first step outside of the 14 layers of dimensional perception that are required for the mind to be able to perceive itself as an internalised and externalised being

The embodiment of the Eastern "cycle" we are binded to, is no more devil, that the uncertainty of that which people regard to be "chaos", when they have no mechanism or alignment for seeing the precipitation of the greater lines of probability (mistranslated as "prophecy" in the Bible) and possibility (mistranslated as "prayer" in the Bible)

They view themselves as subjects to the dimensional construct, and therefore the internalised (female) and externalised (male) constructs are at the mercy of the unknown probability and possibility which is yet to come

They see nothing, beyond that which sees

This is born of an inability to understand the basis of the dimensional construct, by which they see. "Daniel" of the Bible, which correctly translates to "Dimension". Which is one in the same as "Demeter" in the Eleusinian tradition

What they refer to as "the devil" was traditionally, no more than a personification of the unknown
Which eventually got conflated within modern religion (the last few thousand years) within the personification of logic and reason (Satan, Loki)

Within the Illuminated traditions such as my own, "Future" aligns within the heart sphere of the Trinity

Which is "Fear" within the purge process of emotional trimanifestation (Hermes Trismegistus) of the ancient initiation rites

Head - Pain - Past
Heart - Fear - Future
Body - Blockage - Gateway (spirit)

Without oversimplifying something within initiation which is very complex and takes years to properly understand, "Demons" are part of a process of alignment

Within processes such as the Indian tulpas you described, the idea is (essentially) to refine the manner of your own destruction within every path of probability and possibility

"Demons" enable you to view the manner of every conceivable outcome to every probable and possible manifestation of your will, presence and interactions

To those who are "out of alignment" to the true nature of creation and who they are as one with the source of that creation, this process can be quite painful

Every pain, fear and blockage will be targeted

You will forced into seeing and analysing every possible negative outcome

For many, being aligned in such a way is too much to handle

They cannot face (or refuse to face) just how out of alignment they are

To the point where they see the interactions with entries manifested of their own mind and heart, as being persecution by external entities and forces

Or worse, they give up their ability to align within the resonant cycles (mistranslated as "Jesus Christ" within the Bible) as something that can only be achieved by supplication to an externally named entity

The reality is that what they refer to as "Demons" are a type of gatekeeper, facilitating your ability to align to the externalised body (the externalised body of the world they call "Father") as the internalised reflection of the creative source

The cycle they call "Christ" requires alignment to the the origin of the cycle

Such if the necessity to experience pain, suffering and death, in order to understand and appreciate life within the cycle

Within the understanding that comes from experiencing things such as death, we not only learn to appreciate the nature and beauty within the limitation of things such as life ...

But we also become immune to things such as fear within such limitations

We do not fear that which we have already experienced

And we cannot be hurt by such fears within others

Within tribulation, you become blameless

The "Demons" help you see every pain, every fear, and every blockage within your trimanifested form

Rather than trying to cast out those demons, you are supposed to purge yourself of all those pains, fears and blockages. Regardless of how long it takes and how much it hurts

Until you have removed everything they could possibly use to hurt you

Till you become blameless

This means making amends for all the things you have ever done. Seeking forgiveness and forgiving yourself

So one by one, layer after layer, you can let go of every fear and pain they target

Until there is nothing left they can hurt you with

In the Egyptian book of Illumination (the book of the dead) this is the underworld journey where the heart is weighed against a feather, while a crocodile-headed guard dog watches

The "demons" demanding your attention towards everything dark without your soul, that you have tried to ignore or bury

You must be blameless. You must be fearless

You heart must be as light as a feather

There is a reason for this, which has to do with the nature of the "Illuminated" alignment you are seeking

Catharsis, purification and cleansing in this way does much more than just freeing your soul of pain, fear and blockages ...

It aligns the world as your external body

You feel it and see it, and it feels and sees you

You know things you couldn't possibly know. You see things before they happen

You feel pain in ways that are impossible to describe to the uninitiated

You feel love in ways that are impossible to describe to the uninitiated

Because they have no basis for understanding, beyond glimpses of the alignment, which they refer to as "God"

The main part, is that our influence is potent to the point of being dangerous

Our emotions can affect the world in a way that we can unintentionally hurt or even kill

We get angry, animals (and people) around us die

Thinking negatively of people, can make them very sick

We cry, and it rains

We physically fight, and things like wildfires start burning around our country

Our effect is likewise positive, but this is not the aspect of the alignment which needs to be guarded

The reason that you must endure every "demon" for as many years as it takes, no matter how painful, is because it rewires your conscious, to be one with the consciousness in such a way that you are worthy of the alignment

Someone who would hide themselves away from the world in a cave for years, so that they would not inadvertently hurt someone with an alignment to the world that they were still struggling to balance and understand

We learn to control the forces and elements (such as what some would call "Magick) within initiation, so we can understand why we should never use such an understanding

We learn to use it, so that we never have to

As with the demons, this becomes a type of natural defence

We will never need to use it, because we know not to ...

And as such, we are immune to any who would attempt to misuse a lesser form of such knowledge against us

The best example I can give for this,

If we were to speak with someone struggling with "demons" to the point where they feel as those they are losing their mind, it is possible for us to instantly give them peace and calmness

By nothing more than a look, or touch, it is possible for us to silence their mind

For many, we do not even need to look at them, or touch them. We need only be around them to bring them peace

Peopleh stop fighting or arguing, just because we are around

Underneath it is all, there is nothing magical or mysterious to how this works

It is little more than an understanding of the the structure of this world, what we are within it, and how to balance yourself within the influence of your external body (the world), in order to be as influential to the world around you, as it is to you

You understand yourself and the structure of your conscious mind ...

And how it is one in the same as the structure of the world and what it is (the dimensional degrees / arcanum)

You understand that the structure of your internal body and external body (world) are not just like each other, they are one in the same

The "Illuminated" secret of all the ancient mystery schools and secret societies

The sun in the sky and the mind within your body are one in the same

It is the (all seeing) eye which brings forth light, and you are that light

You are not just it's reflection. You are it and it is you

You are the eye, which is the focus of the cycle ("Christ" means "Cycle")

The black hole at the centre of our galaxy, no different to your pupils

Demons are a gatekeeper, as I said

They stand between you, and the purity of your connection to the collective source that people call "God"
 
Interesting. Source?

We are taught the varying traditions as part of our initiation rites. Eleusinian mysteries. Egyptian, Norse, Sumerian, Australian Aboriginal, Roman, etc

All traditions at their roots are based on the same understanding, and as such are easy to align given the right experiences to shape the basis for such understanding

This includes the original meaning and translations of the Biblical texts

The name "TORAH" very literally refers to the geometric "TORUS". One in the same with "TAURUS" and "HORUS"

GENESIS - Biology - The internal sphere
EXODUS - Geometry - The external sphere
LEVITICUS - Vectoring - Direction
NUMBERS - The primary sequence - Precision
DEUTERONOMY - The secondary sequence - Algorithm

My order is "SINAI"

Though the Sinian have had many names throughout history, we are most commonly referred to as "the burning ones"

There are very few genuine Illuminated orders such as ours that still exist today. As such you won't find much online regarding the intended meaning within the mythological teachings

It is not that we are unwilling to share, or sworn to any types of secret. It is just that most do not care to know, and the few that do often lack the basis for understanding the depth of things they seek to know, and as such there is little point in sharing

This is the basis of the saying "Those with eyes, let them see. Those with ears, let them hear"

We would say "it is no good offering steak, to a child who yet has teeth to chew it"

Yet, for the most part, we will tell anyone willing, anything they wish to know. If it is possible to explain to them ...

And it will not do them more harm than good to know

With what you asked regarding the book of Daniel, I have yet to go into the corrected translations of the book of Daniel

But I do know that it is a detailing of the same "torus" dimensional structure within what is commonly referred to as "the philosophers stone", which is the same as the "lodge of perfection" within Freemasonry, which is the same as the geometric process of Equilibrium (Elohim) within other traditions such as the story of Demeter in the Eleusinian mysteries

Basically the TORUS dimensional structure depicted in the philosophers stone symbol is this:

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FIRST SPHERE -Internal
1 - Internal
2 - External
3 - Direction

TRIANGLE
4 - Width
5 - Depth
6 - Height

SQUARE
7 - Expand
8 - Contract
9 - Turn left (into)
10 - Turn right (out from)

SECOND SPHERE
11 - Inside
12 - Outside
13 - In-between

In the book of Daniel, the FIRST SPHERE and TRIANGLE are the six court tales in chapters 1–6. The SQUARE is the four apocalyptic visions in chapters 7–12, and the SECOND SPHERE is the three additional sections in the Septuagint (the Prayer of Azariah and Song of the Three Holy Children, Susanna, and Bel and the Dragon)

Within the Eleusinian mysteries, these are taught as

1 - KORE - Core/Nucleus
2 - HADES - Radius/Outside
3- DEMETER - Dimension/Diameter (depending on which direction you are facing, inside facing out, or outside facing in

Hades/Radius takes Kore/Nucleus from dimension, to the underworld (internalised manifestation) and returns her in balance with the seasons, so she becomes a half internalised, half externalised reflection of such balance

As such Kore becomes Persephone, which literally means "PERCEPTION"

The Biblical PETER

All of them basically explain that for any conscious to exist and be self-aware, it needs to exist within a balanced equilibrium (Elohim literally means "Equilibrium") between internal and external

The "heavens and the Earth" and Equilibrium of Genesis

The very first line of the Bible:

"Everything comes into being through equilibrium between internal and external"

What is basically taught within this, is that for our conscious and mind to exist, there needs to be at least 13 dimensions

Relative to the 12 layers of spectrum and frequency, described later within the new Testament as "Apostles"

The 13th layer, being a return, or reflection of the 1st

Said to be "unlucky" because it is the first dimensional layer to align to someone or something outside of self

In a musical sense, this is the start of the next "octave". As described in the book of frequency, commonly called "Revelation"

The 7 seals are the 7 full tones of any octave of frequency (with the 8th being a return of the 1st)

If we are to include semi-tonal increments, the 7 (of 8) becomes 12 (of 13)

And such it is said in Revelation 17:10

"They are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; but when he does come, he must remain for only a little while"

Which translates to:

There are 7 tones in the octave. With five semi-tones in-between. The root note, is the same as the last note, which precedes the next octave to follow

"The two witnesses"
Harmonic frequency

"The two witnesses killed and raised"
Minor and major harmonic frequency

Mark of the beast
Frequency

Beast out of the Earth
Timing

Revelation explains frequency and spectrum within resonance (Jesus) and cycle (Christ)

The Egyptian equivalent is:

Isis - Resonance (Jesus)
Osiris - Oscillation (Cycle / Christ)

If you look at a piano keyboard, you will see the exact "7 (white keys) with 5 fallen (black keys)

It is the mathematical structure of the internal and external cycles that create all torus

The formative structure of all creation

The one thing I will advise you within all this, is that the "names" within the Biblical stories are not supposed to be translated as literal people

Rather, they are the personification of characteristics of the mind and realms of consciousness

Samuel - Emotional
Michael - Mental
Daniel - Dimensional
Jesus - Resonance
Christ - Cycle
Lord - World
God (Elohim) - Equilibrium
God (Theos) - Thought - Same as Thor and Thoth
Mary - Median

Take any Biblical verse of wisdom, and replace these words with the meanings I have given you

All of them will work, and give much the same intended meaning. Except relative to the individual, rather than any Church or order of men

This is why the various Churches fear the ascended within the Illuminated orders so much

They portray the original Gnostics as coming after their systems of belief, when this is impossible

Without an understanding of ourselves and the systems by which we are able to consider the nature of things such a God, such consideration would be impossible

No holy texts could have been written, without the hands of those who understood such things first to write them

The true "Gnostics" were the original Christians

They came before all modern religions, including the Jews

The word "Zion" correctly translated today is "Science"

"Jew" is "Truth"

But I won't go further into this, other than to say the modern "Jews" are not what is referred to as "Jew" in the Bible

Nor is Israel, the Israel spoken of in the Bible

Again, "Israel" is not a place. It is word that denotes an intelligent internalised state of being

"Israel" is "Initiate"

Initiate - Literally meaning "To go into"
Depicted by the Sumerians as the fish-headed people, or "fishermen", as with the Piscean fisherman "Jesus"

Hence Jesus being the King of Israel/Jews

Ascended - Literally meaning "To go out from"
Deprecated by the Sumerians as the bird-headed people, or winged people, carrying a bucket of water and planting a seed in the back of anothers head

The bucket of water, is one in the same as the water-bearer of Aquarius which comes after Pisces

It symbolises them carrying forth the knowledge of their initiation

As with Jesus saying that after him, the disciples should "Follow the man carrying forth a pitcher of water, into the house (Aquarius) which he enters"

These mathematically are:

Angle - Internal - Angel
Arch - External - Archangel

This is how the winged "Ascended" came to be conflated with that which people call "Angel"

Although, technically only the ascended "Archangels" have wings

The internalised "Angel" initiates such as Jesus, were for the most part spoken of as fishermen, which are Angel. Not yet the ascended "Archangel"

Though, of course in the story of Jesus, he did later ascend to the winged water-bearer. That which is technically Archangel (that which descended into the underworld, and returned to the living world)

I will leave it there for now

Hopefully some of this has been helpful to you on your own journey

Compendium
 
We are taught the varying traditions as part of our initiation rites. Eleusinian mysteries. Egyptian, Norse, Sumerian, Australian Aboriginal, Roman, etc
Intriguing. Who is "we"?
I look forward to learning more about your spiritual path, sounds interesting :)and worth examining. 🧐 Do you have a link to a website with more information and context? Or any book title to recommend? 🤔

Regarding "compendium" I take it to mean that your summary above is the compendium of your faith?
I had forgotten about compendia and I realize I need to acquire the compendia of several religions to make sure I understand them. I sometimes feel a bit at sea with various religions, despite having some broad/general knowledge.
 
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