Who created God?

I have the right to quote scriptures, I am a strong atheist and also a staunch Hindu. Atheism is 3,000 years old in Hinduism.
Even RigVeda's hymn (Generally known as the Hindu Creation hymn) says:
"The Gods are later than this world's production. Who knows then whence it first came into being?"
I never said you didnt have the right. It just made me smile 😊
 
Yes, as the material worlds are all part of a cyclic renewal and religion part of this world.

Faiths are born (Spring), grow and mature (Summer), start to decline (Autumn) and then decay from the original (Winter)

There are many great YouTube videos where people who are not Baha'is offer this is also how civilisation rises and falls, they rise in moral and virtues and decline in material pursuits there are many knowledgeable economists that have posted the prediction of the fall of this age.

Metephors of the Spiritual can always be given from the material, as the material world is but a construct of the Spiritual reality.

Baha'u'llah has explained this in detail in the Kitab-i-iqan and Shoghi Effendi (Grandson), a great writer, has explained it in great detail in "The World.Order of Baha'u'llah".

"Religion," writes Bahá'u'lláh, "is the greatest of all means for the establishment of order in the world and for the peaceful contentment of all that dwell therein. The weakening of the pillars of religion hath strengthened the hands of the ignorant and made them bold and arrogant. Verily I say, whatsoever hath lowered the lofty station of religion hath increased the waywardness of the wicked, and the result cannot be but anarchy." "Religion," He, in another Tablet, has stated, "is a radiant light and an impregnable stronghold for the protection and welfare of the peoples of the world, for the fear of God impelleth man to hold fast to that which is good, and shun all evil. Should the lamp of religion be obscured, chaos and confusion will ensue, and the lights of fairness, of justice, of tranquillity and peace cease to shine." "Know thou," He, in yet another connection, has written, "that they who are truly wise have likened the world unto the human temple. As the body of man needeth a garment to clothe it, so the body of mankind must needs be adorned with the mantle of justice and wisdom. Its robe is the Revelation vouchsafed unto it by God."

No wonder, therefore, that when, as a result of human perversity, the light of religion is quenched in men's hearts, and the divinely appointed Robe, designed to adorn the human temple, is deliberately discarded, a deplorable decline in the fortunes of humanity immediately sets in, bringing in its wake all the evils which a wayward soul is capable of revealing. The perversion of human nature, the degradation of human conduct, the corruption and dissolution of human institutions, reveal themselves, under such circumstances, in their worst and most revolting aspects. Human character is debased, confidence is shaken, the nerves of discipline are relaxed, the voice of human conscience is stilled, the sense of decency and shame is obscured, conceptions of duty, of solidarity, of reciprocity and loyalty are distorted, and the very feeling of peacefulness, of joy and of hope is gradually extinguished...."

This is the link to the section I have taken the above quote from and it contains a lot more detail.


Regards Tony
Hi Tony,

Who is your God?
 
Hi Tony,

Who is your God?
Good morning Yahweh kid, I hope all is well and happy.

There is only One God. My God is the God we all can submit to. The God of many Names that will become One.

That Name was to made known in a distant future.

Isaiah 62:2 The nations will see your vindication, and all kings your glory; you will be called by a new name that the mouth of the LORD will bestow.

That New Name will only be known when one receives it.

Revelation 2:17 Let anyone who has an ear listen to what the Spirit is saying to the churches. To everyone who conquers I will give some of the hidden manna, and I will give a white stone, and on the white stone is written a new name that no one knows except the one who receives it.

In Revelation 3, those that do receive and overcome preconceived ideas, will have that name written upon their hearts.

3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

Thus our One God in this age is known through the Annointed name of "Glory of God" (Baha'u'llah)

One can now search the Bible and see how many times that the "Glory of God", or "Glory of the Lord" (Both translate to Baha'u'llah) are mentioned in the end of ages prophecies, and in many other contexts.

One must accept and overcome and then and only then, does God becomes "One" in all the Names, of all the Prophets and Messengers.

IMHO

Examples

Acts 7:55 But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the "glory of God", and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,

Isaiah 35:1-2 The wilderness and the solitary place shall be glad for them; and the desert shall rejoice, and blossom as the rose. 2 It shall blossom abundantly, and rejoice even with joy and singing: the glory of Lebanon shall be given unto it, the excellency of Carmel and Sharon, they shall see the "glory of the LORD", and the excellency of our God.

Regards Tony
 
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> Yusuf Ali in context: "(15) So I do call to witness the ruddy glow of Sunset; (16) The Night and its Homing; (17) And the Moon in her fullness: (18) Ye shall surely travel from stage to stage. (19)"

Most scholars interpreted (19) as a spiritual journey. But is it?
I am not a professor of classical Arabic, but I have always thought of that verse as referring
to our spiritual growth, yes.
 
Why are you a hindu if you are an atheist? Is it not a waste of time?
You find that in some religions. It's about tradition and culture. In Judaism, there are people who are atheist but who still identify as Jews because they were born and raised Jewish and that is their culture.
 
Good morning Yahweh kid, I hope all is well and happy.

There is only One God. My God is the God we all can submit to. The God of many Names that will become One.

That Name was to made known in a distant future.

Isaiah 62:2 The nations will see your vindication, and all kings your glory; you will be called by a new name that the mouth of the LORD will bestow.

That New Name will only be known when one receives it.

Revelation 2:17 Let anyone who has an ear listen to what the Spirit is saying to the churches. To everyone who conquers I will give some of the hidden manna, and I will give a white stone, and on the white stone is written a new name that no one knows except the one who receives it.

In Revelation 3, those that do receive and overcome preconceived ideas, will have that name written upon their hearts.

3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

Thus our One God in this age is known through the Annointed name of "Glory of God" (Baha'u'llah)

One can now search the Bible and see how many times that the "Glory of God", or "Glory of the Lord" (Both translate to Baha'u'llah) are mentioned in the end of ages prophecies, and in many other contexts.

One must accept and overcome and then and only then, does God becomes "One" in all the Names, of all the Prophets and Messengers.

IMHO

Examples

Acts 7:55 But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the "glory of God", and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,

Isaiah 35:1-2 The wilderness and the solitary place shall be glad for them; and the desert shall rejoice, and blossom as the rose. 2 It shall blossom abundantly, and rejoice even with joy and singing: the glory of Lebanon shall be given unto it, the excellency of Carmel and Sharon, they shall see the "glory of the LORD", and the excellency of our God.

Regards Tony
Hi Tony,

I am not so familiar with your beliefs, but it seems very Christian like....

Did Jesus die on the cross and was raised on the 3rd day by God? Acts 10:40 states that "God raised him up on the third day and allowed him to be seen."
And was Jesus just a man like so many spiritual messengers/prophets, therefor a sinner? No man is without sin, right?
Are all people filled with the Holy Spirit....?
Will some people/souls go to hell(place of punishment) in the afterlife?
Do you believe there are fallen angels/demons...... ? Jesus sends demons out of a person into a herd of pigs The demons actually begged Jesus ...
“If You are going to cast us out, send us into the herd of pigs.” Matthew 8:28-34
Will the devil and his minions go to the lake of burning sulphur forever? like it is stated in Revelation 20:10
Can the devil get atonement?
Can souls get atonement if they are not in the presence of God? If so, how?

Sorry for all the questions...🫣

Thx Tony
 
Surah Al-Inshiqaq:
So, I do swear by the twilight! (Does not make your case any stronger)
You will certainly pass from one state to another. (Yes, we surely do till we live)
So what is the matter with them that they do not believe, (There is no evidence other than what you claim)
In fact, the disbelievers persist in denial. (Naturally)
But Allah knows best whatever they hide. (What is your evidence for existence of Allah?)
So give them good news of a painful punishment. (Trying to frighten us)
But those who believe and do good will have a never-ending reward. (Ah, the 72 houris, the mansion and unlimited supply of booze!)
 
Right is always such a subjective word. Relative word too.
Right is simply right. It cames from not really knowing that such philosophical approaches arise, good Brahman.

What one sees as right, another might see as wrong.
That because good householder mistakes pleasing as right, and unpleasing as wrong. But right isn't related to a relation.
Belief is stronger than truth.
Without believe at first place, trust that not known path leads there, truth will never be archived, seen.

We may learn facts with truth but belief can overcome truth because any truth needs to be believed first. So that belief can exist opposite to truth even in the presence of overwhelming opposing proof.
So does it, that why this former speculations? It's already a sign of wisdom to say "I actually don't know what's right and what's wrong" reflecting that not arrived at truth and peace now."
Our lives determine what we see as right/wrong belief and action.
Yes, how one remembers, perceives, so one thinks, how one thinks, so he acts.
How much choice do we have in what we can believe?
Choice is a matter of amount of debt, faults. The more going on right, the more liberality.
We certainly can't change belief at will.
Not in all circumstances, as told, it's conditioned by debts, but as for some amount, yes. Things aren't determined, but conditioned, conditioned be deeds (thought, speech, bodily) and view.
Try it now. You can't change key beliefs of the eightfold path.
It's even with the path out. Once indebted toward liberation, there is no more way back, and choices to go a little aside the straight lane, getting lesser and lesser.
That is why a person has reached the stream is called secure, unchangeable. While one not arrived at the Dhamma is still a insecure individual, inconstant.
It changes as we experience our life. The Great Atman loves all equally. It does not choose some to cut out or others to persist.
What a nonsensical blind believe... That leads, at best just to inaction.
Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha all I'm sure started from a teaching of unconditional love as guide for living. Then, followers and teachers corrupted it as their teachings spread. And that is something the brain of Man will always do. Pure living is illusion. For purity to exist, so must impurity. Better to coexist with the dark than claim it has no right to existence, as a personal belief.
Not everybody can't be helped out... Right association is the very key.
So much maya but even if it IS illusion, it is the illusion the world follows in various ways now.
That's just good householders world, an insecure, not to speak of beyond.

Take care, seldom change is fast waste of, it's very hard to ever meet right.
 
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