Thoughts about Trinity beliefs

walter said:
Bible says conquer the evil with the good.
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Very good sounding, the challenge with interpretation is the broad words evil and good.
The meaning of those terms, so powerful yet so fuzzy, and how the rule, "conquer good with evil" could be applied actionably to specific concrete instances.
 
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walter said:
The scriptures say to even love your enemies, to pray for those that persecute you, to love your neighbor as yourself, to do unto others like you would want them to do unto you, if we consider all the scriptures I think it sheds a different light on other scriptures,
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walter said:
Wouldn't Paul's words be an example for us to follow?
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How can we be reliably sure that people will go to helpful scriptures to help them interpret more challenging or even harsher sounding scriptures?
 
walter said:
The Jewish people that followed the old law, The Greek and Hebrew Jews that believed in Jesus, The Romans, and many others considered the other religions to be heretics, each one thought they were correct and the others were heretics.
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Still going on too :(
 
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TheLightWithin said:
rattle off all kinds of things about how they want to treat others like joel webbon does.
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walter said:
I don't know this person and I don't know what he teaches.
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You may be better off not knowing. He's an extremist pastor. You'd have to look him up. If you want to. He's not very nice. I occasionally refer to him as an example of troubling trends in certain corners of evangelicalism, as his attitudes are extreme and harsh -but I rarely post links to him, not to give him too much traffic, and also some of his rhetoric gets into political territory which we are not doing on I/O forums anymore.
 
walter said:
It is not important for me to debate this point or that point, what's important to me is to explain my fundamental beliefs with scriptures alone, and then look at the other person's fundamental beliefs and the scriptures they use to explain each belief.
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That sounds healthy.
Some people want to fight and prove they are right. Your attitude seems more useful.

One thing I admire about Judaism is their long history of debate amongst rabbis and scholars, and how their tradition recognizes and embraces the fact that different readers will interpret various texts differently. The sage rabbis manage to debate and respect varying opinions at the same time.
 
walter said:
... still others like Jehovah's Witnesses get their information strictly from the Bible alone...
But of course this information is a subject for debate.
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Clearly, as I'm afraid by singling that out, the response is the JW's New World Translation is neither accurate nor trustworthy.
 
Thomas said:
Clearly, as I'm afraid by singling that out, the response is the JW's New World Translation is neither accurate nor trustworthy.
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I use studybible.info, Biblehub.com and Biblegateway.com I purposely use other people's Bibles because so many people feel the way you do. I wish there wasn't so much division in our thinking when we all believe in and love Christ and his Father.

I think you will find all religions that believe in Christ to use some or many scriptures to support their beliefs.
 
otherbrother said:
I have heard there is translation questions about the word interpreted as “eternal.” As I recall the original word (Greek?) was Eons or something like that. Some interpretations say it means a long time, but not necessarily forever. I agree that eternal damnation is inconsistent with a loving God. A loving God would allow for, and probably assist, a transformation process in which souls finally align with the Harmony of the Source, Ground of Being (Being being a harmonious wholeness in and of itself), God. I sometimes personify the I-amness, Being (as in fully being) nature of God as “BOB” (Base Of Being,” a variation of Tillich’s Ground of Being). “Hey, Bob, please help me…” Or “Dear Bob, thanks so much for…”, etc.
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Hi otherbrother

You are correct. There is no specific word for "eternal" in greek. "αιων" (eng "eon") is an undetermined period of time. "εισ τουσ αιωνασ των αιωνων" or "for eons of eons" is often used to enhance the indeterminant and LONG period of time to try to express the modern concept of "eternity". The same is true for the hebrew עוֹלָם (olam). It is an unspecified time with an unknown ending.
 
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