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    As a Buddhist, I've spent a fair amount of time in meditation. And at times in meditation, there are moments when the thinking mind can become stilled and quieted and another mind is revealed. This other mind is always present, but it's easily drowned out by the constant motion and noise of...
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    * ENLIGHTENED *.....by.....* SCIENCE *

    Hi Thomas, Speaking of myopia, you might want to focus your eyes on that keyboard you're typing on and the light that is illuminating the room you are in. When you're thirsty and decide to get a cold one, put on a pair of glasses and notice that big box called a refrigerator. Good...
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    * ENLIGHTENED *.....by.....* SCIENCE *

    Thomas, I believe that you are overstating the case. Please show where science states if it cannot be measured, it cannot exist. String theory is an example. Strings are so infinitesimally small that they can't be measured. Yet some scientists theorize their existence. Multiple universes...
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    * ENLIGHTENED *.....by.....* SCIENCE *

    Not only do I like paying taxes to support the society I enjoy living in, I don't mind that some of that money goes to housing criminals. But I'll meet you half-way... tax credits for crime victims.
  5. citizenzen

    I want to be excited and comforted by God again...

    You need a good woman. Or a good man... which may not help with the Hell thing...
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    I want to be excited and comforted by God again...

    Eternal Hell for looking at titties? And as the saying goes... 95% of the men in the world masterbate... and the other 5% are liars. Pretty tame stuff in the annals of crime if you ask me.
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    I want to be excited and comforted by God again...

    What crime did you commit that deserves eternity in Hell?
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    I want to be excited and comforted by God again...

    Try to be sure. The most ridiculous and hateful thing a religion can do is to convince people is that an all-knowing, all-wise, all-loving God sends people into eternal Hell. That has nothing to do with God. It has everything to do with people trying to control other people here on...
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    I want to be excited and comforted by God again...

    Something atheists never have to worry about. :D Seriously. I've said before that despite being an atheist, I believe that overall religion has been positive for humanity. Then a post like yours makes me reconsider. Do you really feel as if you're damnable? As if God will condemn you to...
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    I want to be excited and comforted by God again...

    You are experiencing it at its fullest, it's just that the fullest includes constant anxiety... which I understand isn't the most pleasant way to experience it. Removing your anxiety won't change the amount you experience life... just your enjoyment of it. What do you think is the cause...
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    I think it's more about honesty. You can't say an opinion is wrong... that's why they're called opinions. The only thing that gets to me (and shouldn't) is when people don't debate honestly. It's a fine line... but like pornography... I know it, when I see it.
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    My spiritual beliefs - what does this make me?

    Yep. You're never "made". You spend your entire life being remade.
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    I want to be excited and comforted by God again...

    The mistake (IMHO) is to think that experiencing life in the fullest somehow contradicts being good or involves doing more. Merely being alive means you will experience life at the fullest. No matter what you choose to do, you will experience it. You can't make water wetter. Water is water...
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    My spiritual beliefs - what does this make me?

    I'll find people who believe in a flat Earth that way as well. I'm not sure you want to use "shows up in a Google search" as a selling point. But there I go... trying to "win" an argument again.
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    My spiritual beliefs - what does this make me?

    :eek: :confused: :eek: Nah... He's just a temp God. The real God's on maternity leave. ;) God as eternal... who ever thinks that? :rolleyes:
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    My spiritual beliefs - what does this make me?

    But you went full circle there. You say there isn't anything fundamental, yet at the very end you say "except maybe for God". But God was exactly what I was talking about. And I talked about the relative aspects as I said this single source is viewed differently through the prism of each...
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    My spiritual beliefs - what does this make me?

    While it may be "fun" I actually meant to say fundamental. :o
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    My spiritual beliefs - what does this make me?

    I will agree with you here and I think this is one of the fun cornerstones of interfaith: we're all "tapping into" the same thing that is then split through the prism of culture. I spent all my life thinking that monotheism meant not only do you believe in one God, but that only one God...
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    What contemporary theologian said this?

    Can't help you with the theologian. But two thoughts... I know it's just a rhetorical device, but when talking about the unknowable and the incompleteness of our knowledge, I always get a little queasy about saying "There is only one thing we can know for sure." If you're going to reside...
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    * ENLIGHTENED *.....by.....* SCIENCE *

    Welcome to the world of internet forums. :D
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