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Re: If the gods ‘exist’ then how can god do so? …or what does that mean for monotheis Hi Thomas. Thanks for the info I agree with you. Bare with me while I try to understand, ~ as I say, this is not how I see things at all. I wouldn’t see the infinite nor absolute [‘ceugant’ to me [not...

Re: If the gods ‘exist’ then how can god do so? …or what does that mean for monotheis Thomas, I think I may have been seeing the absolute as something different to how you see it/it is. If you look at the dictionary descriptions [below] then you see why I considered it as somewhat ‘solid’, I...

Re: If the gods ‘exist’ then how can god do so? …or what does that mean for monotheis Thomas I will reply when I get the chance. :) arthra Interesting stuff, note how the text seamlessly went from amen-ra to ra, and the book says similar things about many gods if I remember rightly. They...

Re: If the gods ‘exist’ then how can god do so? …or what does that mean for monotheis Thomas well of course! sorry I meant that in the context that pagan gods are considered as ‘false’ by abrahamic religions. silly me :rolleyes: Good point. I would say it is all contained within a...

Re: If the gods ‘exist’ then how can god do so? …or what does that mean for monotheis It is not. that’s not what I am saying, what I meant was that god is apparently absolute but there is the earth and people, then many pagan gods were people who became gods [even if delusional]. So in effect...

Re: If the gods ‘exist’ then how can god do so? …or what does that mean for monotheis For sure, yet beyond concepts there is no reason why not to presume there are not gods, there are people and that doesn’t stop gods absolutism [?!]. Its an either/or for me, the absolute is an absolute...

Re: If the gods ‘exist’ then how can god do so? …or what does that mean for monotheis Well yea or ‘action’ as we all know. But you said it was scientific, as being causality, yet causality doesn’t imply that what you reap you sew. In actual fact causality is what makes us do the things we do...

Re: If the gods ‘exist’ then how can god do so? …or what does that mean for monotheis Causality infers no morality and our actions within it simply move to the next effect. The actions we make have no effect but of themselves, they don’t cling to us like glue or anything. Hence we don’t have...

　 Well we can debate weather or not each aspect is evil, and we can debate if there is such a things as evil. In the end it seams adequate that death is evil [and suffering] and the others pertain to that to some degree. why compicate things when we already have life an death as definite...

Shawn There is life and death and the three primary ways of dealing with that, which I outlined, everything else are other moral and ethical issues ~ unless they affect the universals. No one is keeping us in ignorance? I don’t know what you mean there. No one has made ‘hybrid creatures’ at...

The life-death dilemma Given there is wisdom in the universe, define the wisest option; a, Bringing someone into the world; is evil b, Taking someone out of the world; is evil c, Stopping someone from living; is evil A being born. B being terminated. C not being born. note that...

I wish I could, but I could write a book on it, but then if someone else did I would condense it down to my op. I don’t really know any other way of saying it. Its not just about info though, it takes the whole of the reality map and visualises it according to the ancient storytelling...

Well we disagree then shawn, I think this concept goes way beyond knowledge and is a whole view not just an aspect of a view. I think you are just not seeing what it means.

Yes I know of the hindu concept, I expect the idea went in there somewhere. There is more too it than that though. They are narrators too though. ...all things have an effect.

So am I but I doubt if anyone will. I have been trying to think of some way to summarise the meaning but I think that only comes after the whole thing is received. :)

‘The book with no name’ This is an idea I been shuffling around in my mind but its just raw inspiration at the moment, so I thought I would run it by you and see what we can make of it… ‘The book with no name’ is basically a holistic perspective generalising everything into a single theme or...

Re: If the gods ‘exist’ then how can god do so? …or what does that mean for monotheis I don’t think so no… [maybe some are like that] demagogue http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/demagogue Karma is a part of Hinduism, Jainism and Buddhism etc [mostly panentheism], I don’t really see it like...

Re: If the gods ‘exist’ then how can god do so? …or what does that mean for monotheis Interesting ideas shawn, I wonder if gods [or god] are in any way effectual other than on the mental/spiritual realm, after all we can find no evidence of the powers in the material realm.

Re: If the gods ‘exist’ then how can god do so? …or what does that mean for monotheis You have no reasoning to back that up! I can equally say [as a pagan] that god doesn’t exist, then we are simply left with a futile contrast of opinions. The only difference is that I can offer some...

Re: If the gods ‘exist’ then how can god do so? …or what does that mean for monotheis Haha, that’s the simple answer, but its without basis and is simply one opinion over another. Surely you would give reason to back your beliefs up? Take it like this; some pagans like me believe that many...