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That doesn't sound right to me lol..... Friend, such a loosely used word these days, if they truly are friends, they will want to help you. And on the other hand, if you truly are a friend you wouldn't want to force a friend to do something, you'd want them to choose. Not that I put much...

As in you cannot love others until you can love yourself? (oooh easy! family show!)

Oh me personally I'm still pending on that answer :D

Thanks for the reply, Ah that's cool thought as much ;D An omnipresence in regards to what he has to show you then? I've been starting to look more to whatever it is that he want's to show me, he'll show me cool to find out and hear how others have been effected and their experiences, but...

Oh no I am not arguing at all! I just pointing out I've heard people say how can I with rational thinking, practice and methods come to accept this as truth and there is a gd! Then I've heard others saying How can I -not- with rational thinking practice and methods accept this as truth and there...

I've heard it both ways :P

I hear that lol, Although don't think "to be with religion" is the goal that is being seeked, sure it can look like that but it's more than that. You are already starting to discover that, when you start looking and asking and questioning and so forth... Isn't that key parts of understanding...

KrkwgTBrW78 ;)

I am guessing many have their own ways to word the purpose of them but, taking a shot in the dark at this perhaps it is to teach islam? Unlike the mosques it is more a faith/educational based leisure centre.

Welcome to the forums Lucifer, nice to meet you. Good forums here, you are sure to meet a vast vast range of people of many faiths and and within each faith an unbounded amount of paths/opinions. :) So what are you looking for exactly? I mean, this insight, what do you consider to be a "great...

Grey thanks for your reply, so have you found your centre? Or experienced a centre like, a spot where you feel you should be? Or do you think the scales tend to always "rock" if that is a good enough way to describe it?

Are you balanced? As in, say you are a set of scales, can you stay evened? Or do you sometimes weigh more one side than another? Why do some people change never staying put? How did you find your centre / balance? Have you found it? What makes you consistent? Why aren't you consistent? Thanks.

...A god, a hero, an over lord... Sure you could end up being seen as a spy or whatnot but you could advance the human race so days such as present in the past would seem primitive so in the future... You could be even more amazing ;D You could prevent wicked marks in our history from happening...

Hey Wil.... Yeah Some take it into spells and such here is a quick example to look at: White Magick through Kabbalah Spells Also further down it says about using black magic as a defence for things such as voodoo :O VOODOOO!!! Running thru mah magick! Of course I think I smells...

With control and moderation weed is fine in my books. *shrugs* Anything I guess could be fine with control and moderation, weed, drink... Candyfloss.. Whatever it is you are consuming, when it turns and it is you that is being consumed by it, then it is time to take a look and see what is going on.

A lot of "parents" are still but children themselves what hope have the children of children got then would you say?

The way you personally do them? Nothing at all, I just assumed that Wil wasn't aware of "Jewish spells" so I thought I'd jog his memory. :D

There is the Qabbalah right?

Oh wow, so you follow Judaism? Do you think it is the poems you find helping you or your lord gd?

I see, so what line of religion do you follow? Some kind of modern? Or Pagan? Wican?