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Nick, I think you are correct. Next topic?

Were you not talking about our "Holiday" called Thanksgiving? It was a joke... do you get "Big Bang Theory" a real popular TV show here.

Pig-headed, honest, perhaps. Did you at least go to the websites I posted? I doubt it because the documentation is there to show I am not crazy. Besides, my Mother had me tested as a boy and the doctors said no.

"Portrayed". My objection is that from the beginning is was (and is) one big lie! It is portrayed as something celebrating the Pokanoket's help to the Pilgrims (the first being big hearted Indigenous Americans, the second Puritans fleeing Religious Tyranny). Download the “Thanksgiving”...

Most Americans still celebrate it as a gifting of the Pilgrims with survuval by the Pokanoket. However, that was NEVER the reason for Thanksgiving. It was founded as a celebration of victory over the heathen in King Phillip's War. Is the difference important? In terms of service to truth and...

William Bradford, THE chronicler of the Plymouth Planation (and its head five times covering about thirty years between 1621 and 1657) wrote in his Of Plymouth Plantation about his “Proclamation of Thanksgiving”: "Those that scaped the fire were slaine with the sword; some hewed to peeces...

ACOT, good point. Very hard to discuss anything meaningfully unless we share a common definition of the thing (or at least an overlapping definition).

Fine, just let me point out that pure land creates a very personal g!d. Maybe you are using "empirical ego" different than I. To me it means a sensible or perceivable self. Like Hume, I utterly dismiss the notion. Who would seek to distinguish between a Person and the empirical ego? I...

GK, your post is perhaps pver my head. I believe that both Aup and I were both objecting to your and Tariki's concepts as being too small for g!d or some substitu idea. Tariki said "So ........ we have who we see ourselves as being, and there is what we perhaps truly are." Perhaps...

Good call, Thomas. The guilt inflicted by a Jewish or Catholic Mother is a straw man. Is there any reason for it? Not logically... it is a way to cripple a child and hold it hostage. Is guilt as a personal feeling (and based on one's actions) is a different thing? I think not. Of the many...

Thomas, same thing happens with most other Religions, philosophies, and psychologies. As Bernum said, "ther is one born every minute".

Is it really an east versus west thing? Pure land buddhism is about as personal a theology as is possible. And process theology (a XXth century very western approach) is radically non-personable. Where does Hinduism fit in? If buddhism is eastern, it must be also. There are personal...

Nope, never ever literal (sorry). Look up the Jewish and Eastern Orthodox readings.

Yep sh! probably laughs at our stupidity.

BINGO, Thomas! Steiner and Theosohy have precious little relevancy.

Quote: Originally Posted by radarmark "g!d created the world in seven days" Well that rather depends if you assume 7 x 24 hour periods, which most exegetes do not. What I mean is, the literal pov is false, but the essence of the statement might well be true, from a metaphysical or mythopoeic...

Quote: Originally Posted by donnann Jesus didn't contradict the old testament. Its important to know what happened in the beginning. The new testament is about obtaining eternal life in paradise through jesus christ. Don't you think the knowledge of how human beings lost eternal life is...

No, since Ch!st Jesus never says this. However, you are enttitled to believe that. :D That may be yuor church's translation, 'tis not mine!:D . I believe I read this a little less literally.:D . Not quite. it is an analogy from the Hebrew, not literal at all.:D

Do we really care? I think not, does the NT specify this kind of ideolo0gy? I think not!

Do you really believe that "the observer" is relevant? In my opinion the is a big "Yes" . An observer like Stapp, Heller, Feynman, Pagles, Wheeler, Wooters, Zurek, Durr, Goldstn, or Deutsch seems "more reliable" than those of of who are no professional physicists.