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Since I don't have much time now, I'll just send you a link to a page that deals with Dr. Mantey's, let's say, emotional objections. :) TJ

That's fine, but it's not much of a discussion then. If you fell I haven't answered them adequately, it would be interesting to see where you believe I went wrong. You make a good point; I would probably have a tough time answering you as well as others in the limited amount of time I have...

I've addressed most of these points earlier in this thread. Perhaps you'd like to interact with what I've posted? Otherwise, you could provide your evidence to back up these claims and we can discuss it anew. TJ

Maybe at times, but you have to admit, that's quite a few errors that came together in one post. I don't think I was that far off the mark for suspecting it was deliberate, especially when I have seen it done deliberately like that before. In any event, there's no harm done, as I posted the...

I'm quite sure I got your point, but I'm not sure you got mine. I guess its a draw. ;) TJ

I believe that is exactly what is being done in another thread here. But hopefully I can answer some of those common misconceptions. Still, I personally use a variety of Bible translations. Each one has its own strengths and weaknesses. You're right, quoting a pope would do little for me unless...

There are definitely other scholars who have praised the NWT. If you'd like, I could send you some examples. As for the "certain scholar in their Kingdom interliner who argues strongly against the NWT," who are you talking about? TJ

So you are saying that Jesus and his Father are the same person? He calls his Father "the only true God." I don't see how Jesus fits into that scripturally. TJ

I'll take you at your word Dor and assume it was an honest mistake. What I had thought had happened was you copied it from a website where they had intentionally changed the text. This happens quite often. I have actually seen some go as far as making entire false articles which they then claim...

So are you saying that Peter is himself Andrew, James is himself John, Philip is himself Bartholomew, etc.? Isn't this what you're doing with John 17:3, saying Jesus is himself "the only true God?" TJ

I quote from the Bible, not the Watchtower. The only time I do is when someone misquotes it or asks me to. I have used the NIV, NASB, the American Translation, and the KJV in my replies when proving my beliefs, though the NWT is certainly a fine translation. So how exactly is it "very easy" to...

So at Matthew 10:2-4, where it says, "These are the names of the twelve apostles: first, Simon (who is called Peter) and his brother Andrew; James son of Zebedee, and his brother John; Philip and Bartholomew; Thomas and Matthew the tax collector; James son of Alphaeus, and Thaddaeus; Simon the...

Hi FLOWERGIRL, I'll send you the two articles in their entirety. TJ

"Quasi" means "to some degree." So if they put "prophet" in quotation marks for the purpose of indicating 'a prophet to some degree,' then they were purposely bringing out one particular sense of the word, that being preaching and warning others, and leaving the "second part" you described...

And how exactly did you accidentally leave out six quotation marks and at least three sections (that I counted) of text without giving any indication of it? I guess I don't see how that couldn't be deliberate. But if it was in some wierd, crazy way an accident, how about we be a little more...

Hi Dor. I didn't think we were going in circles and I didn't quote from the NWT. I quoted from other, popular, modern translations. Perhaps you could explain to me how you understand the verses below. John 17:1-3 (KJV) "These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said...

Wow Dor. Either you should stop using the copy-and-paste method or you should stop misquoting, because your quotes above are not correct. Here are the correct quotes: Notice how your quotes leave out some relevant information? The biggest thing is that when our organization is referred to as a...

This goes against what Jesus told his disciples as he sent them off to preach and give blessings: Matthew 10:7-9 NASB "And as you go, preach, saying, 'The kingdom of heaven is at hand.' "Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse the lepers, cast out demons. Freely you received, freely give. "Do...

And did you look up each one of those yourself or did you just find them somewhere and copy-and-paste? The one with the most quotes does not necessarily win. What counts is whether or not you can back up the accusations made in those quotes. Each one of those proofs you have offered can and...

Hi Dor. Unfortunately, the words "I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last:" in verse 11 that you quote above have long been recognized as a spurious addition to the text. That is, it was added by some scribe long after the book of Revelation was written. The best manuscripts do not contain...