Machine People -- not human

The machines will be welcomed as fellow adherents.

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It is entirely possible, in my opinion, that this amazing thing will happen in the course of time: Suppose somebody soon starts manufacturing intelligent artificial brains, people with super long lifespans. We are talking about a life that does not seem quite so transitory or fragile as our own. Could such ones fit into your philosophy of the world, and would you accept them as people? Would you recognize them as adherents to your religion and/or philosophy, as fellow beings?
 
If civilization ever reached the point of technological "singularity" it would be the end of man. As that would be the moment he would become obsolete.

The principle is simple: Man creates a machine that is self-aware. As soon as this machine can think for itself, it starts work on upgrading its own capability. So that its next version is smarter then its own previous version. This proccess keep happening in shorter and shorter intervals until the machine reaches a stage which completely eclipses man in ever way, shape and form. In terms of evolution it would mean that the homo sapien is no longer at the top of the food chain.

Of course this is "possible" theoretically. But practically speaking, it is impossible. Even if it was practically possible, I would still say its impossible because of my religious convictions. Man can not be rendered obsolete on earth, but earth might just be rendered obsolete by man.
 
Wil said:
Is this one or two things.

manufactured intelligent artificial brains

and/or

people with super long lifespans
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I am only asking about manufactured people, meaning people that do not come from a human seed at all. I am not polling about medically enhanced humans. Thanks for the links. Here's one for you: CADIE: Cognitive Autoheuristic Distributed-Intelligence Entity
 
Dream, the link was just posted yesterday.

Is CADIE real? You know, it is April Fool's Day . . .
 
Yes... eventually.

You didn't specify any time limit.



CADIE is an April Fools joke.
 
CADIE may be an April Fool's joke, but Google and Microsoft are both heavily involved in R&D - and implementation - of software networks intended to follow AI principles.

When you think how much data Google stores on us all (not just the web, but everything we do through their online tracking) you have to wonder what on earth such an intelligence would make of humanity.
 
c0de said:
If civilization ever reached the point of technological "singularity" it would be the end of man. As that would be the moment he would become obsolete.

The principle is simple: Man creates a machine that is self-aware. As soon as this machine can think for itself, it starts work on upgrading its own capability. So that its next version is smarter then its own previous version. This proccess keep happening in shorter and shorter intervals until the machine reaches a stage which completely eclipses man in ever way, shape and form. In terms of evolution it would mean that the homo sapien is no longer at the top of the food chain.

Of course this is "possible" theoretically. But practically speaking, it is impossible. Even if it was practically possible, I would still say its impossible because of my religious convictions. Man can not be rendered obsolete on earth, but earth might just be rendered obsolete by man.
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C'mon dude. You must know man is already a living machine. It has already been created. The real question is if it can become human.

Harun Yahya - MAN: THE LIVING MACHINE - Download Page
 
Downloading and uploading "self" from machine to grown host body is just around the corner. Not sure which corner though. If anybody finds it please pm me.
 
Dream said:
I am only asking about manufactured people, meaning people that do not come from a human seed at all. I am not polling about medically enhanced humans. Thanks for the links. Here's one for you: CADIE: Cognitive Autoheuristic Distributed-Intelligence Entity
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Isaac Asimov posed this very question in some of his books on Robotics a long time ago.. They even made a movie based on "I Robot" as I recall.. Machines of course are man made and as tools they become part of us and we may likely become part of them.. but to destroy whjat has developed would be indeed foolish and retrograde in my opinion.

Will these machines become "human" with emotions and choice.. It may be possible.

Would they have "soul"? If you accept that soul is something from the spirirtual world a source that we have no control over on this earth..It could be possible..

- Art
 
c0de said:
If civilization ever reached the point of technological "singularity" it would be the end of man. As that would be the moment he would become obsolete.

The principle is simple: Man creates a machine that is self-aware. As soon as this machine can think for itself, it starts work on upgrading its own capability. So that its next version is smarter then its own previous version. This proccess keep happening in shorter and shorter intervals until the machine reaches a stage which completely eclipses man in ever way, shape and form. In terms of evolution it would mean that the homo sapien is no longer at the top of the food chain.

Of course this is "possible" theoretically. But practically speaking, it is impossible. Even if it was practically possible, I would still say its impossible because of my religious convictions. Man can not be rendered obsolete on earth, but earth might just be rendered obsolete by man.
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Interesting post
 
Ahanu said:
Dream, the link was just posted yesterday.

Is CADIE real? You know, it is April Fool's Day . . .
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What's really cool is that I started the thread before I stumbled upon the page about CADIE! CADIE may be a prank, but the poll still is not. I was looking at a Math book on Google books, and I even did not realize this is April 1st. Got me!
 
Dream said:
Could such ones fit into your philosophy of the world, and would you accept them as people? Would you recognize them as adherents to your religion and/or philosophy, as fellow beings?
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I was once an Extropian transhumanist (I participated in a chat group with Max More and other original Extropians), and while I may more appreciative of the "merely human" now, I could easily accept the existence of transhumans and AI lifeforms as fellow beings, and as fellow Eudaimonists if they were so inclined. :)

Of course, my philosophy does not have issues such as "souls" to worry about.


eudaimonia,

Mark
 
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