Re: Controversial BBC + Discovery Channel documentaries on Jesus (pbuh) >>in Kashmir<
I'm not sure what episode you mean here. Can you give me a reference?
Numbers 20:12, Moses (pbuh) was not allowed to lead his people beyond the river Jordan.
Whether Paul was or wasn't, the fact is that his letters, which are dated circa 50+ A.D. were before the gospels and early enough that people still living from Jesus' time had read them.
But that doesn't prove
what the diciples believed. The epistles just prove what St Paul believed. The Quran also says that the doctrine of divinity of Christ was introduced after Jesus PBUH was no longer among the people.
Assuming Jesus did leave, surely He would have heard wind of the disciples claim that He rose again and return to quash it.
Again, you are assuming that the diciples were the ones preaching about a supernatural ressurection. But we don't know that for certain.
I don't know about that. Daniel mentions the resurrection, as does Ezekiel. so it wasn't a foreign concept to 1st century Jewish thought. In fact, the Sadducees were notorious in their adament claim that there wasn't a resurrection, which distinguished themselves from among the other Jewish sects that did.
In the second place, I question the very late dates of when they assume the gospels were written.
I am sure there are competing interpretations of those "
resurrections" as well. I have heard a metaphorical interpretations of Ezekiel and Daniel's "
visions". But that is besides the point anyway, because however early the dates of the written gospels,
no historical account actually places them under the authorship of the actual disciples of Jesus (pbuh).
Also, it wouldnt make much sense for him to return anyway, he was a wanted man, remember? Why would he go back? And lastly, as I said, he would have been acting under divine commandments. Whether or not he would go back would be up to God, not him.
Yeah, but that threat was gone when Judas noosed himself. As far as the rest of the disciples, Jesus knew from human nature that they would scatter.
Yea, I was just saying, in fairness, he did get stabbed (in the back) by someone among his own people.
So Muhummed died like everyone else?
I thought you were talking about his ascension (the "miraj" or the "night journey"??) But yea, he did die like everyone else. His grave is in Medinah.