14 Bible Verses That Indicate Jesus Is Not God

14 Bible verses that indicate Jesus was not God? Why 14? All we need is the Logic that Jesus was a Jewish man and, according to his Faith which was Judaism, the individual man could never be God. A man-god is akin to the Greek myth of the demigod which is the son of a god with an earthly woman and the idea just cannot go along with the Faith of Jesus.
 
Shibolet said:
14 Bible verses that indicate Jesus was not God? Why 14? All we need is the Logic that Jesus was a Jewish man and, according to his Faith which was Judaism, the individual man could never be God. A man-god is akin to the Greek myth of the demigod which is the son of a god with an earthly woman and the idea just cannot go along with the Faith of Jesus.
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to be fair, the concept of Demi-God is in no way only subject to Greek Mythology (feel free to call it something else, but I derive it from what I've been taught). Also Demi-Gods in Greek Mythology were also formed by Godesses and men.

Now that we have that out of the way, while I agree that Jesus (PBUH) is not God, Demi-God, or Paternally (if that is the correct word) Son of God, I am baffled as to why you would bring this thread back from the dead to say it? Or did I miss someone else's post? I'm pretty sure most, if not all, people here know Jews (such as you ascribe to yourself) and Muslims are Abrahamic faiths that reject such a notion. From an OT (or actual Tanach) perspective, it is very difficult to get from "I am the Lord thy God" and "God is not man, nor the Son of Man" (English translations) to someone who has ascribed himself a prophet, rabbi, Son of God, Son of Man, and (at least allowed others to refer to him as) Messiah as God. I know you do not adhere to the Quran, but it states the same.

All in all, I'm saying I agree, but let's let it rest.
 
BigJoeNobody said:
to be fair, the concept of Demi-God is in no way only subject to Greek Mythology (feel free to call it something else, but I derive it from what I've been taught). Also Demi-Gods in Greek Mythology were also formed by Godesses and men.

Now that we have that out of the way, while I agree that Jesus (PBUH) is not God, Demi-God, or Paternally (if that is the correct word) Son of God, I am baffled as to why you would bring this thread back from the dead to say it? Or did I miss someone else's post? I'm pretty sure most, if not all, people here know Jews (such as you ascribe to yourself) and Muslims are Abrahamic faiths that reject such a notion. From an OT (or actual Tanach) perspective, it is very difficult to get from "I am the Lord thy God" and "God is not man, nor the Son of Man" (English translations) to someone who has ascribed himself a prophet, rabbi, Son of God, Son of Man, and (at least allowed others to refer to him as) Messiah as God. I know you do not adhere to the Quran, but it states the same.

All in all, I'm saying I agree, but let's let it rest.
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I have nothing against Islam and other religions as they don't use a Jew to preach against Judaism. Jesus was a Jew whose Faith was Judaism and he never had any thing to do with Christianity. Throughout the NT, its foundation is "Replacement Theology" which is exactly the use of a Jew to preach against his own Faith. That's the reason why I am around: To stand for the Faith of Jesus which just happened to be the same as mine. That's all.
 
wil said:
I've been asking... I can't find another Jew who is on this path with you... not one.
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Perhaps because they don't know the difference between the Jesus of Nazareth and the "Christ" of Paul. And this lack of knowledge must be due to their aversion to the NT as a result of the persecutions the Jews have suffered by means of pogroms, blood libels, Crusades, Inquisition and last but not least, the Holocaust.
 
Actually I don't believe so.... But it is interesting how finally you've come out of the closet and exposed some inner hatred of Christians that goes beyond your regular rhetoric.

The Jews I know are happy with their religion, and show no such problem with me or Christians.
 
wil said:
Actually I don't believe so.... But it is interesting how finally you've come out of the closet and exposed some inner hatred of Christians that goes beyond your regular rhetoric.

The Jews I know are happy with their religion, and show no such problem with me or Christians.
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What's the difference between physically destroying the Jews or spiritually replace their Theology? I do not hate Christians. I am only standing for the Faith of Jesus which was Judaism. Personally, I have nothing against you or Christians in general. If you and every one else can teach Christian doctrines without any reference to Replacement Theology, I bother you guys no more. Regarding all the other Jews, every thing is fine as long as you don't approach them to teach the Christian gospel. Have you ever tried?
 
Heck no, why would I try to convert anyone from their beliefs. My friends, we have discussions on belief. The similarities, the differences, invite each other to each others ceremonies, holidays.

Well that and we read your posts and they shake their heads in disbelief.
 
wil said:
Heck no, why would I try to convert anyone from their beliefs. My friends, we have discussions on belief. The similarities, the differences, invite each other to each others ceremonies, holidays.

Well that and we read your posts and they shake their heads in disbelief.
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To convert is behind the message of every Christian. I have been through this attempts more than several times. When a Jew is taking too long to respond, threatens of hell starts to appear in their messages.
 
wil said:
LOL....I don't believe in Hell.

I love your generalizations, be they oh so wrong.
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You don't believe in hell-fire? You might want to check on your position as a Christian because it could be that you are not a Christian at all. If you consult a Catholic priest or a Pastor, they might try to convince you about the Christian way to see this doctrine. My generalizations are based on the Christian NT.
 
nope, I don't believe in fire and brimstone preachers either....oh I know they exist, I just don't believe them....

There are plenty of Christian churches I can attend and preachers I can visit with who are on the same page...
 
wil said:
nope, I don't believe in fire and brimstone preachers either....oh I know they exist, I just don't believe them....

There are plenty of Christian churches I can attend and preachers I can visit with who are on the same page...
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Oh, gosh! Are you sure they exist but you just don't believe them? Does it mean, you don't believe even what you know exist? That's a paradox. If you believe they exist, I could take it that you believe by faith which requires no evidence to prove. But if you know they exist, would you please produce for us at least an evidence that they exist?
 
you are asking me to provide evidence of something I don't believe exists?

I don't believe in green aliens from mars.... do you need evidence of them as well?
 
wil said:
you are asking me to provide evidence of something I don't believe exists?

I don't believe in green aliens from mars.... do you need evidence of them as well?
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Well, if you don't believe they exist, how could you say that you KNOW they exist? That's the point which constitutes a paradox, unless it was a lapse of the pen in your post #212.
 
I think see the problem...
wil said:
nope, I don't believe in fire and brimstone preachers either....oh I know they exist <fire and brimstone preachers> , I just don't believe them....
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I eliminated a word in error and clarified there...does that help? I don't believe there is a physical location of heaven or hell (our footballers still point up, thanking G!d in the heavens). I believe them to be states of mind we put ourcellves in.
 
wil said:
I think see the problem... I eliminated a word in error and clarified there...does that help? I don't believe there is a physical location of heaven or hell (our footballers still point up, thanking G!d in the heavens). I believe them to be states of mind we put ourcellves in.
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That's much better. I don't either. I mean, I don't believe there is a physical location of heaven or hell-fire. But hell, according to Judaism is the grave which we call "Sheol." That's a physical place where we all are heading to, be one Jewish or not. By the way, according to Jesus himself, the Kingdom of Heaven is a state of mind we are supposed to welcome into ourselves or to exist among us. (Luke 17:21)
 
Shibolet said:
That's much better. I don't either. I mean, I don't believe there is a physical location of heaven or hell-fire. But hell, according to Judaism is the grave which we call "Sheol." That's a physical place where we all are heading to, be one Jewish or not. By the way, according to Jesus himself, the Kingdom of Heaven is a state of mind we are supposed to welcome into ourselves or to exist among us. (Luke 17:21)
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interesting interpretation....which translation says that?
 
Deuteronomy 4:35 You were shown these things so that you might know that the LORD is God; besides him there is no other.

I sincerely believe it also means that Only God can use that name GOD because no one else is like Him, therefore Jesus can not be GOD and Jesus can not use that name or claim that nature which solely is God's. What I am referring to is GOD as a name AND also a description of His Being.
So if anyone of you intend to pray to the Almighty Father call Him by His name GOD and not Jesus.
Just making sure that your prayer goes to and get acknowledge by the One and Only True GOD.
GOD and Jesus are 2 different names and 2 different persons.
God is not = to Jesus. And Jesus is not = to GOD because GOD is > than Jesus.
 
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