Can anyone convince me to not to believe in God?

I would not try to convince anyone to abandon belief in God. My experience was that I wanted to find a way to preserve some sort of God concept without compartmentalizing my thinking. What happened was that I retreated incrementally, trying to find a safe spot for God above the tide line of my intellect, whittling away a little more, and a little more, until one day all I could honestly say was "I just don't know."

Chris
 
China Cat Sunflower said:
I would not try to convince anyone to abandon belief in God. My experience was that I wanted to find a way to preserve some sort of God concept without compartmentalizing my thinking. What happened was that I retreated incrementally, trying to find a safe spot for God above the tide line of my intellect, whittling away a little more, and a little more, until one day all I could honestly say was "I just don't know."

Chris
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(smiling) Apparently Solomon came to that same conclusion, when he allegedly wrote Ecclesiastes, and the lament of man without God...

I suppose that means you are in "Very Good" company, considering the "wisest man on earth" and you came to a similar thought...
 
Postmaster said:
I'd like someone to try convince me why I shouldn't believe in my monotheistic God.
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Maybe converting you to polytheism would be easier than converting you to atheism? Getting you to believe in all the Olympians might be a chore, but at least you could believe in two deities rather than one, if a Goddess is convincing to you (come on, doesn't Athena have any appeal?) and is obviously distinct from the God you worship (Apollo is cool!)
 
Quahom1 said:
I don't think God is as much concerned about "sin" as God is concerned about lack of "communication" between God and each of us, individually...
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....... all sins can be forgiven just as long as you go to the dude in the box and tell all :rolleyes:
 
Quahom1 said:
Haven't done that in over 30 years...takes too long.
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Oh you are a killjoy!!... ever thought of that poor lonely guy sitting in his box... thinking that his job is just not delivering on its perks?
 
Tao_Equus said:
Oh you are a killjoy!!... ever thought of that poor lonely guy sitting in his box... thinking that his job is just not delivering on its perks?
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I suppose, but then if we ever decided to go right to the source, we would have no need for a man in the box...

See, from where I stand, 'fraidycats' can't face their maker, and have to use a mediator (sin eater), to talk with Him. But the secret to talking with God is to start by saying "I'm sorry", and meaning it for the right reasons. Then to finish it by saying "Thanks", and meaning that too.
 
17th Angel said:
God's middle man lol. Middlemen, always come out laughing... Cause they're the ones that profit the most for doing pretty much nothing.
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Not so sue about that. If you knew the burdens and secrets of everyone in your parish, that might weigh heavily on your mind and heart.
 
There are some, that like that sort of thing... A man in the sin box, just brings to mind a gossiping old woman *shrugs* Alot of people enjoy knowing the seedy and dark things about their fellow man.... Entertainment, leverage and so on... Not saying all but... You know...
 
Quahom1 said:
I suppose, but then if we ever decided to go right to the source, we would have no need for a man in the box...

See, from where I stand, 'fraidycats' can't face their maker, and have to use a mediator (sin eater), to talk with Him. But the secret to talking with God is to start by saying "I'm sorry", and meaning it for the right reasons. Then to finish it by saying "Thanks", and meaning that too.
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Though you imply you are doing this to "God" it could be interpreted as only you forgiving and thanking yourself. The ability to do that is ambivalent ;)
 
Quahom1 said:
Not so sue about that. If you knew the burdens and secrets of everyone in your parish, that might weigh heavily on your mind and heart.
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And rage and libido. Re Irish Catholic Priest scandal.
 
Tao_Equus said:
Though you imply you are doing this to "God" it could be interpreted as only you forgiving and thanking yourself. The ability to do that is ambivalent ;)
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From a Panenthiest view this would be partly true.
 
How about convincing you to neither confirm nor deny such a belief? Perhaps I could convince you to profess your suspicions and doubts instead of beliefs. If you claim to have a belief you are admitting that you also have some doubt. Otherwise you would say that you are certain. So if you are looking to be convinced let's talk about the doubts you have and start from there.

atypican
 
Sorry to be so late to the party, but...

Postmaster said:
I'd like someone to try convince me why I shouldn't believe in my monotheistic God.
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Why on Earth would I care to try? I would never try to convince you to believe anything. I would only ask that you investigate with an open mind and see what you find.

My only gripe with religions is when they seek to enter the political realm and unduly influence secular law and education.

But otherwise, if you want to believe in God, Gaia, Satan, Buddha, Vishnu, Allah, or whatever... knock yourself out.
 
citizenzen said:
Sorry to be so late to the party, but...



Why on Earth would I care to try? I would never try to convince you to believe anything. I would only ask that you investigate with an open mind and see what you find.

My only gripe with religions is when they seek to enter the political realm and unduly influence secular law and education.

But otherwise, if you want to believe in God, Gaia, Satan, Buddha, Vishnu, Allah, or whatever... knock yourself out.
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Good thing "God", does not feel the same way about...you. :)
 
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