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Hello everyone,

Greatly looking forward to listening and discussing, especially on such interesting and relevant topics as religion and spirituality bring up. I grew up in a dogmatic Christian family (my father a pastor), but when I was a teenager, began to seriously disagree with many of their beliefs and moved more towards a mystical approach.

I'm a university student (right now working on BA in Welsh Studies but am hoping to start a BA in Psychology next autumn) and divide my time/life between North Wales, UK and North Carolina, US. I like having feet in both worlds and the different opportunities and experiences this presents.

I am involved in a number of different groups, and feel very pro-active about the world at large. I regularly go to Friends' Meeting (Quakers) and love the Quaker values of integrity, mutual respect and deep listening. I have also been heavily involved in the Celtic spirituality community, mostly from a pagan perspective. Meditation is an integral part of my life and so I find a great deal of inspiration from reading Buddhist and Zen authors like Chogyam Trungpa and Charlotte Joko Beck. I also have a lot of respect for Sufism and am fascinated by Hinduism and indigenous shamanism. To complicate things, I also find the works of Alice Bailey stimulating, although I admit that I shy away from most "New Age" things.

One of my major interests is comparative mythology and religion, not just from an anthropological point of view, but also psychologically. How does one's native perception of the cosmos interact and affect our core sense of self and soul?

It can be hard having so many diverse interests, and so I can't tell you that I am any one particular religion or path. I am aware though of the dangers of cultural and spiritual appropriation, so I try not to make assumptions or merge practices together and pass them off as "authentic" to any one particular tradition. They are all puzzle pieces but more like they fit with me as an individual, not with a single religion or worldview.

I'll also say right out that I have the curse of long posts :) ... but this is usually because I spend a great deal of time thinking what I want to say beforehand, so when I do post, it's not just an instant gut response.

As for my other interests, well they are also numerous! gardening, cooking, singing, poetry, genealogy, word etymologies, astronomy and astrology, yoga, swimming, hill-walking, Celtic Studies, self-sustainable living, fantasy books (that have a more folk tale flavour), Welsh language (Cymraeg), incense, herbalism, beekeeping, dancing, clog-dancing, horses (big time!), Celtic, Arabic and Indian music .... I could go on lol.

Anyway! Nice to meet you all *shakes hands*. You can see a picture of me below, so you know what I look like when you read my posts, hehe.

I think I'll close with a poem that I feel sums up my approach to life and people in general. "Self-Portrait" by David Whyte:

It doesn't interest me if there is one God
or many gods.
I want to know if you belong or feel
abandoned.
If you can know despair or see it in others.
I want to know
if you are prepared to live in the world
with its harsh need
to change you. If you can look back
with firm eyes
saying this is where I stand. I want to know
if you know
how to melt into that fierce heat of living
falling toward
the center of your longing. I want to know
if you are willing
to live, day by day, with the consequence of love
and the bitter
unwanted passion of your sure defeat.
I have heard, in that fierce embrace, even
the gods speak of God.
 

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Namaste Jenn,

Well speaking from my perspective...I sure welcome all you say you've got to offer. We likes, or rather I likes our Pagan/Christian thinkers around here. Their long posts are usually well worth the read, their insight and contemplations are well worth contemplation.

That and I've always had an affinity for preacher's daughters.

Gosh, that sounds awful stalkerish....but I surely shouldn't delete it as I've already thunk it....

So....whatta welcome, eh?

wil here, looking forward to your posts.
 
:) very well thank you! More like I have family and homes in both places so at any given time am likely to be in either place.
 
Born in US but native to both and my parents divorced so things are a bit split up so depending on the time of year I travel back and forth a lot which does take effort but each place is unique. Over the next few years I might be spending more time in NC. But my heart and thoughts are always in both places at once.

Thank you both for your welcome. :)
 
Welcome Jenn. Judging from your remarks on that thread involving reincarnation recently, we may have some similar views. And yet you say you're not very "New Agey.";) But, then, what the heck does that term even mean?:) earl
 
Hi Jenn, and welcome to the Forum.

I am a Theosophist. I will be interested in seeing how much our two belief systems have in common.
 
welcome jenn, thanx for sharing info on yourself and the photo screams celtic! always a good sign from a scottish quine, as you'll gather l particularly accord with your musings, especially:

'One of my major interests is comparative mythology and religion, not just from an anthropological point of view, but also psychologically. How does one's native perception of the cosmos interact and affect our core sense of self and soul?'

this is me to a t 2, being a rising scorpio, studied psychology and anthropology, and always widening the native perception to some univeral perspective which nevertheless has always to do with ones core, and our core, a very scorpion deepsea diving myth!
 
Glad to see a new face, particularly one with an open mind behind it.
For now, we don't know. Until we know one way or the other though, it would be unwise to make any judgments. We have to learn to be OK with the ambiguity and mystery of it all without losing our desire to learn more and be open to more.
:cool:
 
Hello Earl and thank you for your comments and welcome. I hope my comments below clarify my thoughts. For the "New Agey" bit, now I might put my foot in it .....

but I distinguish between two different kinds of New Ages. The first which I am more understanding and empathic with is the concept of the New Age as put forward by Alice Bailey. I distinguish this from what most people would call New Age. What most people tend to see is a very consumer oriented product of self help and magical escapism which panders to people's ego fantasies rather than cutting through to true wisdom. Chogyam Trungpa talks about "spiritual materialism" which is a materialistic fixation on spirituality as on object, as something to be attained.

You can see spiritual materialism in all religions to some extent, so I am not solely picking on New Agers - I mean technically I would be lumped in as a new ager too. But from my own inside perspective, I have noticed how marketable the range of 'New Age' topics are. Everything from 'how to be a witch' complete kits to providing 'magical spells' to help you get what you want; gemstones mass ripped from the earth to sell to 'earth loving' people, and a range of stolen and half-baked teachings which plunder indigenous cultures and identities, or there is the person who brags about how many certificates and workshops they've done as if paper makes them Masters of Wisdom--- it's a lucrative business and my observation is that much of this 'stuff' merely distracts from the Path ... it aggrandizes the ego and its illusions instead of giving the true freedom so often offered.

I know that it isn't ALL like that but it is just a case where one should listen to what is said willingly but also in turn evaluate it against the measure of inner truth ... As the Quakers say, the continuing revelation in the shrine of our hearts.

I'm all for advancement and spiritual growth and even spiritual materialism has things to teach ... I simply am careful to not jump on every bandwagon that drives by. I am sure there are many many more like me.

Btw Happy New Year!!!!
 
Hi Jenn, and welcome to the Forum.

I am a Theosophist. I will be interested in seeing how much our two belief systems have in common.

Hello Nick,

Well I am also a member of the Bangor TS Lodge (in N Wales) so in many ways I know where you're coming from when you discuss the Ageless Wisdom. I don't always get on well with Mdm Blavatsky's style of writing (which is very 1st Ray) but I have found the TS a very open place to discuss religion and truth. It was through the TS that I started giving talks too on Archetypal Psychology and also on Ecology from a sacred perspective, so there is a very special place in my heart for Theosophists ... As long as they aren't dogmatic!!! Lol so nice to meet you.
 
welcome jenn, thanx for sharing info on yourself and the photo screams celtic! always a good sign from a scottish quine, as you'll gather l particularly accord with your musings, especially:

'One of my major interests is comparative mythology and religion, not just from an anthropological point of view, but also psychologically. How does one's native perception of the cosmos interact and affect our core sense of self and soul?'

this is me to a t 2, being a rising scorpio, studied psychology and anthropology, and always widening the native perception to some univeral perspective which nevertheless has always to do with ones core, and our core, a very scorpion deepsea diving myth!

I generally get on very well with Scorpios. :D I'm a Leo rising if you couldn't tell with my Celtic hair. Although my mother is of Welsh, Scottish and English mix, my American father is Scots-Irish so Im more a Celtic mutt than anything lol.

Very nice to hear about our shared interests too. Perhaps we should have a chat sometime! What you said about deepsea diving resonates with me. My animus sometimes takes the form of a Kelpie so I'm all over watery unconscious depths hehe.

:D
 
Glad to see a new face, particularly one with an open mind behind it.
:cool:

Why thank you. One of the biggest blessings about joining in diverse discussions such as the kind here is that it shows me areas where I hadn't realised I lacked an open mind; ie my unconscious pre and misconceptions become visible. Sometimes I hate that but it certainly challenges the ego and stretches ya too. ;)
 
Hi Jenn and welcome to the Interfaith forums - I like your attitude. :)

Nice to see your pic as well - always good when the members here are humanised. :)
 
Welcome Jenn! I'm new around here, too. Although my profile says I joined in 2005, I promptly forgot about it back then. I was also married at that time, too, so likely had other priorities. Now it's wasband and past-wife labels between us ;)

Here are a handful of links you might like to pair up with your posted interests:

Online Etymology Dictionary
P A S S I O N
WeLove-music

Ciao! :)
 
What a nice poem that digs deep. It sets a really high bar. There are several that I have met who seem like they match your poem. Hope you will visit the forum again!
 
Welcome Jenn! I'm new around here, too. Although my profile says I joined in 2005, I promptly forgot about it back then. I was also married at that time, too, so likely had other priorities. Now it's wasband and past-wife labels between us ;)

Here are a handful of links you might like to pair up with your posted interests:

Online Etymology Dictionary
P A S S I O N
WeLove-music

Ciao! :)

I love the Online Etymology website and use it frequently, haha ;) ... thanks for the other links ... the Arabic music ones have turned out to be really interesting!

Grazi x
 
Thanks, greymare and Dream, for your welcomes.

Re: the David Whyte poetry, I'd thoroughly recommend him to everyone/anyone. Can't resist sharing another one of his poems:

Sweet Darkness

When your eyes are tired
the world is tired also.

When your vision has gone
no part of the world can find you.

Time to go into the dark
where the night has eyes
to recognize its own,

There you can be sure
you are not beyond love.

The dark will be your womb
tonight.

The night will give you a horizon
further than you can see.

You must learn one thing.
The world was made to be free in.

Give up all the other worlds
except the one to which you belong.

Sometimes it takes darkness and the sweet
confinement of your aloneness
to learn

anything or anyone
that does not bring you alive
is too small for you.
 
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