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Gnōthi seauton
God in manifestation has changing aspects and attributes. Otherwise we would not be able to relate to this God.God is not changing.
This is the Absolute. Relative to this transcendent Aspect of God, we are changing. But without the incarnation of this God here, within our world, we would have no Living Sacrifice, no Divine Ideal(s), no Fixed Goal.Jarrett said:He will never change. He is the same yesterday, today, and tomorow. We are changing.
We may wish to emphasize that the Being we speak of is already PERFECT relative to Humanity's greatest goals for the current cycle. That Being, however, also has attained to all that we are aspiring to accomplish, even after several future cycles of evolution have come to pass. In other words, THIS is God in the Highest, the Most High God, relative to our particular planet and all of its billions of inhabitants.
But there is much we can learn, and learn to keep Holy, close to heart and mind, regarding the Being (God) and related Beings in manifestation ... for many of these Teachings are capable of providing us the guidance we need for getting through this stage of growth - individually, as a people, as the 4th Kingdom cooperating with the 5th, and even as the many Kingdoms of life are united & brought into harmony with one another (the lowest, 1st, or mineral right up to the 7th, God in the Highest).
And that is what the world's Divinely inspired Scriptures, of every age, have been about. That is what they have, and always will, contain, in every New Era.
Yes, we are being drawn to deeper reflection upon who and what we and God(s) actually are. And we learn, not just certain important delineations, but also the great degree of overlap! We find that we are more like gods, in certain ways, than anything else. And this is no crime, no sin, no misplaced understanding ... so long as we are genuinely humble, and reasonable about this realization. It is only when we begin to skew our perspective, and lose the proper context for this statement, that all sorts of foolishness results, and the little self becomes exalted over the Greater.Jarrett said:Our ability to think of god is changing.
This is the path we are all on together - the Path of Becoming. But I'm not sure I understand what you mean by unbecoming ?Jarrett said:Many of us are becoming saviours, and many are unbecoming.
Yes, I think the shortcoming has been ours all along. Not to say that the relationship itself is not evolving. This is certainly true. Yet I do believe that for many millions of years, we have been very much preschool students, truly toddlers in God's Classroom, and only recently entrants into the earliest grades. Various Teachers have come to be a part of this somewhat unique, unusual experiment taking place on our planet, which has for its goals the same general Goal of every planetary school: completion of all grades of Learning, and Mastery of all types of Living (upon the Cosmic Physical Planes of existence).Jarrett said:Before god seemed to us a hard task master, but only because this is how we thought of him. Christ came to destroy those thoughts. Christ came to set the captives free.
But of course, this is only the Beginning, for which Christ, Headmaster of the ONE SCHOOL, has long been preparing us. And in time, all begin to awaken (Birth), while many experience the same Baptism and Transfiguration as did Christ Jesus, other Initiates before, and a good number since. The same stages of Renunciation, Resurrection and Decision (leading toward Ascension) must also follow, as these are the great milestones toward the end of the spiritual career for every now-incarnate Soul upon our planet.
Say more about this please. I think there's plenty of room here for plenty of discussion!Jarrett said:Why would he need to free us from his fathers creation? Well........we are not held captive in his creation. We are held in the place of deficit. In the father there is no deficit, why would one that has all be jealous or vengeful? Who is this supposed god of the old testament? The prophets gnew the father but who did the world know? Better yet who is it that the world now excepts as god? Is he a hard task master, would he expect you to be right and if not force you to become right with the fear of hell? Of course by now i gnow you gnow.
In a word, this is the future of Christianity, as well as religion in general, Western religion especially. What more worthy and noble topic for an Interfaith website, or at least, for some of us Westerners!
I am an old gnostic, seeking to be a new seer. Only in making REAL what we have seen or foreseen, and in aspiring to embody with the greatest portion of our being - all our heart, all our mind, all our body, all our soul, and all our spirit - shall we earn our freedom from the cycles which come to govern ALL Beings through various stages of our mutual journey. If we were not required to undergo these cycles within the current world, we would need to experience their equal elsewhere, upon other planets, perhaps in different galaxies.Jarrett said:I see many gnostic principles in your mind along with many of the principles of the four winds.(swastica without the right turns is a compass, the ways all come from one point, the center. We are all blown about by these winds. N christianity, E judaisim, S islam, W hindu.
But the cycles are all lesser wheels within Greater, and these Greater within the Greatest. G*d, too (in the Highest), INCARNATES. And this is the changing Face of the Divine, even while we know there is an UNchanging, yet UNKNOWN `Countenance.' But such Mysteries are only known to the Highest Initiates, and even then, only in what still remains a microcosmic sense, for we cannot truly fathom evolution beyond the Cosmic Physical Plane ... even while we presume to speculate upon the Cosmic Astral or Mental.
Also, there are four arms of the revolving svastika of Creation, as well as destruction. But all religions, all worldly teachings and ideologies, come into being through these creative cycles, only to pass out again according to the destructive. These are the cycles of Creation, Preservation, Destruction which pertain to the Highest as well as to the lowest.
The world's religions have associations with the Seven Rays, the Paths of both Emanation and Return - from the Highest, into our tiny world(s) of manifestation, and back again, toward our, and Their, SOURCE. There are perhaps other correspondences; what I am familiar with is:
Ray 1 - Will-Power - Hindusim
Ray 2 - Love-Wisdom - Buddhism (w/Ray 6)
Ray 3 - Active Intelligence - Chaldean (basis for Judaism, et al)
Ray 4 - Harmony through Conflict - Egyptian
Ray 5 - Concrete Science - ?
Ray 6 - Devotion or Abstract Idealism - Christianity, Islam
Ray 7 - Ceremonial Order - White Magic (and Ritualism w/in all religions)
I follow you. Our best efforts are, eventually, swept away as the winds of change blow across the face of our planet, effacing the work in and of our outer lives, even removing all record that Humanity once was.Jarrett said:Swastica is what happens when we all try to be right.
This is true, as the song Dust in the Wind so poignantly seeks to remind us. Fortunately, this is not an argument to remain passive, or to avoid strenuous effort. This is not an excuse or invitation to throw in the towel or balk when we behold the Dharma that awaits us. In the greatest moments of challenge, we too will be tempted to ask, take this cup from me ... and it will be understood, and forgiven. Yet it is our DUTY to be here, our unique privilege, as well as a requirement - out of Necessity - given the stage of evolution at which we find ourselves.
Nothing can change that, and thank Goodness!
It might sound appealing to some to leave Life's School early and advance to a higher grade ... perhaps even graduate and join the rank of the truly Worthy, the Honorable, the Gods.
But as we know, They once were where we are; Where They are, we too shall be. And this only occurs in time. We cannot skip grades, for in this, life's classroom is sequential, and all future learning builds upon and requires the mastery of current lessons. There is a curve, a progression, so that we are even now beginning to learn something of the most sublime Teachings, and we are invited to ponder these sublest modes of consciousness and levels of being. Yet this is so we may have adequate room for growth, and not become too stuffy with what we think we already know.
As we appreciate, even for a moment, the true sense of scale, and perceive something of the Greater cycles ... all that we have found important or so meaningful in our lives shifts, as if looking through a kaleidoscope. We may even become frightened, temporarily. But as long as we take away from these experiences that we are really only very small, and - as the Beatles said - "Life moves on within you and without you" ... I think we'll be on the right track.
We shouldn't concern ourselves so much with being right vs. wrong. This is only a glamour, and it too shall pass. Sure it may seem rewarding when others become aware that, indeed, we have been fortunate enough to behold a measure of the Truth. But if we do not lose perspective, we will know well enough that Truth is Itself, Measureless. So what can we really do if we notice that others are drawn to our example, awareness or previous learning?Jarrett said:Continuing to try to be right only closes of the ways and makes a window in which you see a cross. If we get rid of the rights we will continue in our own direction being blown further and further from the center where truth is. If we resist the winds and press back, by the paths of this cross we will return to the center, to the all. Our view will be unobstructed, in that place, the father exists.) You realy would have a hard time expressing what you gnow to others wouldnt you?
It is a great responsibility to be here at all, knowing as we do (to greater or lesser degree) that everything we do affects those around us, shapes the world we live in and determines our own future, like a potter shaping a clay bowl at his wheel. It is a far greater burden to know that we are already intricately bound up within this world, its inhabitants, and that we too share in their collective fate. The form of escapism which now comes from so many people misunderstanding Christ's teachings (and those of other Teachers) ... will one day come to an end. For far too long have capable souls, and their GIFTS, remained hidden behind the pernicious doctrine of vicarious atonement, and evaded or avoided life's responsibilties.
There is a shared burden which we all must learn to shoulder, and for this it is not required that we have intimate esoteric or gnostic training and qualifications. We may be very new to the spiritual path, as Souls, yet as we gradually learn to still the planet's psychic turmoils, it will become apparent to all, no matter where we stand on life's Ladder, that all hands are needed for the WORK which the Master has undertaken.
The Knowers, at best, may share something of their Revelation with the unknowing and the unitiatied, but a worker's usefulness is so much diminished when he swells with pride and forgets his true self, forgets his true place, and fancies himself at the APEX of the Great Pyramid already ... rather than as a humble yet valued Worker, here at its BASE.
The Temple will be constructed, and the Master Builder ever invites us all to join in, each at his appointed station ... knowing, if he maintains Faith, that whatever burdens, toils and temporary hardships he has - one day shall pass, as his rank on the Ladder thus improves, and his responsibilities in the Building Work surely increase.
Too much talk of reward, and too little remembrance of the WORK. Maybe this is why the cornerstone of the New World Religion (the one wherein all religions will be united, wherein all of us CAN be in the `Right') ... is Freemasonry, with its Unhewn Ashlar, the HOATF, and a recognition, via symbolism and 7th Ray ritual, of TGAOTU.
I woke up while ago and was thinking something along these lines:
Did you ever hear the one about the blind god who felt so much a part of his creation(s) that he spent all his days wandering about, searching for all of his I’s?
Peace