Apostate

[NeoGnostic Pantheist]

I was born christian and at about age twenty two I converted to islam. Then after four or five years practicing islam I became atheist. After about six months of being an atheist I became agnostic. A year or so later I added some gnostic and pantheist leanings to my perception of reality.

I don't know what the future holds for me, but I don't think I'll ever return to organized religion. Which leads me to the point of this thread. I've never felt as free as I do now. I love being an apostate.

 

[Bhaktajan II]

Get a job!

Accept that any work done is the path of YOGA (linking-up with the divine).

By doing your part in society, selflessly for the happiness of others is the status quo of activities (aka, work aka occupational duty aka dharma).

Gratify your senses --but in a regulated (with moderation) way on the "Honor System (self-moderating)" without traspassing upon others (avoid bad-karma) without neglecting your duties and without impeding other's obligated duties.

 

[Saltmeister]

I was born christian and at about age twenty two I converted to islam. Then after four or five years practicing islam I became atheist. After about six months of being an atheist I became agnostic. A year or so later I added some gnostic and pantheist leanings to my perception of reality.

I don't know what the future holds for me, but I don't think I'll ever return to organized religion. Which leads me to the point of this thread. I've never felt as free as I do now. I love being an apostate.

Your next step is . . . embracing your humanity and coming to an appreciation of what it means to be human.

What you believe doesn't matter anymore. The important thing is that you're human.

Get a life. Socialise. Get involved in society. Be a participant in society. Make friends. Play games. Play sports. Watch sports. Get married, have kids. Make money.

Be an individual.

 

[NiceCupOfTea]

i converted to islam, but have since left and am now a christian, before all that i was aethiest and then agnostic.

how are the guys at mosque with your new found apostacy ?

 

[NeoGnostic Pantheist]

i converted to islam, but have since left and am now a christian, before all that i was aethiest and then agnostic.

how are the guys at mosque with your new found apostacy ?

There's nothing new about it. I've been an apostate since 06. When I first left Islam they tried to convince me that shaytan was kickng my butt.

 

[xcvbxcvb]

I was born christian and at about age twenty two I converted to islam. Then after four or five years practicing islam I became atheist. After about six months of being an atheist I became agnostic. A year or so later I added some gnostic and pantheist leanings to my perception of reality.

I don't know what the future holds for me, but I don't think I'll ever return to organized religion. Which leads me to the point of this thread. I've never felt as free as I do now. I love being an apostate.

I don't know.. you sound kind of like a Sufi to me.

 

[Dream]

more like Unapostolic

I was born christian and at about age twenty two I converted to islam. Then after four or five years practicing islam I became atheist. After about six months of being an atheist I became agnostic. A year or so later I added some gnostic and pantheist leanings to my perception of reality.

22? Interesting, because I was 23 when I left my trinitarian protestantisms for a nontrinitarian one. About seven years later I left that in order to fellowship with more Christians, since non-trins are maybe 1 of every 10,000. There is a problem with making right arguments more important than equality of persons. I accept that there is truth, however I accept that it is too much to expect between human beings. There is rarely or never such a thing as perfect agreement between two people. So I left factions behind, embracing emotional honesty instead of delusions of verbal agreement. I no longer accept a religious point of view as final, since human beings will always be wrong.

I don't know what the future holds for me, but I don't think I'll ever return to organized religion. Which leads me to the point of this thread. I've never felt as free as I do now. I love being an apostate.

I respect what you're saying, and I want to make a point about that future. Freedom is important, but its something that we can only achieve as a group. You may have made it over the fence and past the guard, but you cannot tell me that you are free while there are still people in prison. Also, I wouldn't call you apostate, since you'd have to be in some way opposed to truth itself. An apostate throws away truth and concern for others in exchange for greedy purposes, and that is not what we're talking about.

I'm not saying that you have to join an organized religion, and I'm not currently practicing in one. I am saying that you aren't apostate but that you actually are still not free, since we are all connected to non-free people.

 

[NeoGnostic Pantheist]

Re: more like Unapostolic

22? Interesting, because I was 23 when I left my trinitarian protestantisms for a nontrinitarian one. About seven years later I left that in order to fellowship with more Christians, since non-trins are maybe 1 of every 10,000. There is a problem with making right arguments more important than equality of persons. I accept that there is truth, however I accept that it is too much to expect between human beings. There is rarely or never such a thing as perfect agreement between two people. So I left factions behind, embracing emotional honesty instead of delusions of verbal agreement. I no longer accept a religious point of view as final, since human beings will always be wrong.


I respect what you're saying, and I want to make a point about that future. Freedom is important, but its something that we can only achieve as a group. You may have made it over the fence and past the guard, but you cannot tell me that you are free while there are still people in prison. Also, I wouldn't call you apostate, since you'd have to be in some way opposed to truth itself. An apostate throws away truth and concern for others in exchange for greedy purposes, and that is not what we're talking about.

I'm not saying that you have to join an organized religion, and I'm not currently practicing in one. I am saying that you aren't apostate but that you actually are still not free, since we are all connected to non-free people.

I feel what you're saying when it comes to the word apostate. I always thought it meant a person who abandoned religion. Secondly, I never said I was free. I said that I never felt as free as I do now.