I thought I clarified what I did with the original image. The way I found it was by doing an image search at Google. I was intentionally looking for something including the `sun disc,' but those may not have been my search terms. Originally I wanted an icon or line art, but I liked the photo I found, so I settled and began to work with it. The original name is sunprom1_soho_big.gif ... but today I cannot locate an image out there by this name. It has been less than 48hrs since I found the original.
I didn't - and don't - expect folks necessarily to understand, or agree with my observations/conclusions. The fact that a swastika appears once the image is rotated four times - is obvious. WHY this is the case, is where the creative thinker should be able to make some headway. The swastika is an ancient symbol, most esoteric, and depicts both the CREATIVE as well as the DESTRUCTIVE power of the universe. Metaphysically and cosmologically speaking these are BRAHMA and SIVA, respectively, as indicated in exoteric - if ancient - Vedic teachings. Folks, all this leaves out is VISHNU, the 2nd Aspect, yet this is the Aspect of the Trinity which should be considered
foremost when we observe the Sun!
It remains a fact (mileage may vary) that when we look toward the center of our Solar System and behold the Sun orb, we are directly observing the outermost manifestation OF that Creative, Destructive and Preserving Power ~ Deity. This is THE Deity of John 1:3, the Triple Logos, Three in One ...
Perhaps some of the discussion since my OP means this thread should be elsewhere, if folks have other comments to make. That's fine, I just thought it was curious what happened when I rotated the image four times. I certainly didn't come up with a swastika intentionally, and since my original rotation was only ONCE, at 90 degrees, I'm not sure why I went for
four rotations anyway, except maybe to strive for symmetry. As you can see, I found it. But I maintain: The swastika is not there
by accident or
at random. Anyone else may come up with their own conclusions.
The 90 degree rotation came to me as an idea because I
did intentionally want to convey the somewhat anthropomorphic (okay,
totally anthropomorphic) idea of `the hands of Deity' enfolding, containing or overshadowing HIS SUN. The esotericist knows that the Sun Disc is more or less LITERALLY the `Heart of God' (physically speaking) - manifest in our Solar System as ITS Heart. If you want to understand Genesis 1:27, you will need to be able to appreciate things like this. After all, MALE-AND-FEMALE, which is not simply
hermaphroditic as sometimes occurs, at random, today ... is hardly something most of us are familiar with, or yet understand in context with the esoteric teachings. I mean, have YOU met many folks like this? Chances are they weren't from `around here.'
Much less then are we likely to know the exact role that Earth plays even in our own Solar System, and how our interaction with other local evolutions, or non-local evolutions, and lack thereof ... affects our OWN rate of spiritual progress as a planet, either accelerating or slowing it, introducing new elements (factors), etc.
No no, don't get me wrong; I really have no understanding at all of this New Agey `Mer-ka-ba' stuff, and I'm not much interested. You can read up at a page like this one -
Merkaba - Star Tetrahedron - Flower of Life - Crystalinks - at CrystalLinks and sit and go "wow" till the cows come home. It's pretty impractical, glamorous fluff, imo, most of it. And seeing swastikas in the heart of the sun, well, that may be along the same lines, I dunno. It just jumped out at me. Sacred Geometry, on the other hand, seems a bit more worthwhile, but again, it's filled with glamour and fluff - and yes, a great deal of pure subjectivity.
We've got to be able to set aside the strictly
human elements in our thinking (argue that it isn't possible and sure enough, for *you* it won't be!), long enough to understand for a moment, that not all symbols, and/or their implications, exist *purely* in y/our HUMAN imaginations. Even (if) so, the extent and degree to which they
may carry our thinking into worlds where our own evolution and consciousness DOES contact non-human evolutions and consciousness, sometimes makes a consideration of such symbolism extremely worthwhile and important.
So, the idea of the FOUR QUARTERS, as evidenced in the Buddhist and Hindu Mandala, or in the equal-armed Christian CROSS (?) ... well you see, some of us will realize and understand: This JUST AIN'T by accident. {It exists within the spiritual teachings and symbols of *every* indigenous culture, of course; it is Universal!} It isn't because WE contemplate and ponder these shapes and symbols that they have meaning. No, we don't BRING MEANING to such shapes and symbols, based on our religious beliefs, or spiritual experiences. At best, the latter, and *sometimes* the former, can help clue us in to
what is already `there.' And
that's what really matters. It's there, it's been there, and it's gonna stay there. WHEN
we get around to recognizing it ... now *that's* the subjective part.
But to try and keep things on a more even keel, I DID post images of other permutations. I rotated the original image at 30, then 60 degrees, in order to show one example of THREE rather than four rotations. Then I went for 120 and 240 degrees, which is another variation on three, but evenly instead of within one quarter of a circle, only. And for kicks I went for 72, 144, 216 and 288 degrees, showing FIVE rotations total. This becomes difficult, at least for me, as my photoshop skills made it hard to preserve the original image's clarity or luminosity after 4 additional impositions. Nevertheless,
I can see the outer points of the pentagon which is formed in this lattermost image quite clearly, plus an inner pentagon (again, FIVE points), even an inner `swirl,' or 5-armed variation on the swastika. But again, as folks will say, this is
just by coincidence!
Frankly, I'm far more interested in direct observations - such as this - than trying to argue for the continued existence of cobbled-together, grafted-on, broken-down theologies ... or justify the barbarisms of said theologies down throughout the centuries, seeking only exoneration and vindication. I find such feeble attempts disgusting and truly reprehensible.
Would it be worthwhile to find images of your own, of Uranus, of field mice, of french fries from burger king, and rotate these five hundred and eleventy-odd times to try and discover the face of Pocahontas? Ah sure, why not? 17th should enjoy this kind of thing to no end ... and maybe he can even help me with my Photochop skills in the meantime. But you see, if we don't get carried away, there remains the distinct possibility of observing and exploring the lines between `purely subjective' (there IS NO such thing, in my book) and `objective' (ditto, since none of us has the perspective required to regard things in such a manner).
If I showed you a piece of ET's landing-craft from 60 years ago, and *proved* (to those who remain OPEN to objective, empirical, physical proof) the validity of such claims that
not only are we `not alone,' we're currently being visited by over 60 species of non-human, how would that change your worldview? This is a rhetorical ?, but perhaps we should be less concerned with how to
disprove the facts (disprove that air exists, I dare you) ... and more interested in the original question.
You see, it really doesn't matter if you believe there's a magical swastika hidden in the heart of the sun. If you couch the real question(s) in such terms, you're missing the point entirely. An anthropologist, while open to certain considerations, may never be able to accept that any of it is `trans-terran' in its true nature. In other words, s/he wants to know how the swastika evolved AS A SYMBOL, and what this has meant TO EARTH'S PEOPLE. And plenty of folks at Interfaith, while fascinated by their own religious beliefs, or even genuinely interested in
Interfaith, may labor under the same handicaps as these anthropologists.
Is mathematics the universal language? Really? If so, this should be an equally interesting fact for the poet, the politician, the preacher and the plowman. When this fact just means that computer geeks and a new generation of Einsteins have stuff to dream up and scheme up in order to earn their bread, we're in big trouble as a species. What, you didn't think we were in big trouble?
May as well do as the Floyd suggests:
Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun
