unfortunately, the edl are a symptom of a very real problem, which has been successively ignored and exacerbated by governments and opinion formers over the years. it's not about immigration, it's about the alienation of the white working class and the denial of a narrative to this group. i am interested in the edl because i think it is a manifestation of a reaction against this, but there are too many interests that see it through their own prism of ideology - the far right are one, the "anti-fascist" far left are another, meanwhile the actual group that are attempting to express themselves are left without a distinct means of expressing themselves; i am strongly reminded of the french muslim women's movement known as "ni putes ni soumises" - neither whores nor doormats, which rejects both sides of the argument and attempts to posit a third way. this has not so far been achieved by the edl, if my analysis is correct. at the end of the day, it's not enough to be defined by what you don't want, you have to be defined by something [realistic] that you do want.